Liberalism is the gateway drug of fascism

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2020/11/20/diffusion-des-images-des-forces-de-l-ordre-l-article-24-de-la-loi-securite-globale-adopte-a-l-assemblee-nationale_6060577_3224.html

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  • CEGBDFA [any]
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  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    Huh, that's so weird, I thought France valued free speech so god dang much that they were willing to project an Islamophobic cartoon on the side of a building just to prove their commitment to it, I mean why else would they do something like that 🤔🤔🤔

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Incredible how everyday I hate everything a little more. "Damn I didn't know I could felt this much hate"

    • Jorick [he/him]
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      They sure do. Macronists and American democrats are exactly the same, in that they'll have literally shy away from nothing to please capitalism, or its defenders.

    • MagisterSinister [he/him,comrade/them]
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      That seems to have been the tipping point, but Macron has relied on police brutality to suppress protest to his austerity torture policies for years. That he is now making any effective criticism of his goons illegal sadly doesn't surprise me at all. It is entirely in line with how that asshole operates.

      • zukai12_ [none/use name]
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        Didn't one of his ministers or something dress up like a cop and go out beating protestors

        • MagisterSinister [he/him,comrade/them]
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          I think he was head of his security staff, but yes, that actually happened. During protests where dozens of people lost an eye from cops shooting them with rubber bullets.

        • cummunist [he/him,they/them]
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          Yep, and that whole scandal was revealed because... A journalist filmed him doing this, and the guy was later identified by Mediapart. The important part here is that the journalist who filmed the event wasn't one at the time, and still isn't considered one by many reactionaries because they consider him too "militant".

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      Did France seriously just start going full fash after the attacks?

      It started before that - roughly since the last local elections (at the cities scale), where their party got its ass handed to it and the green party did very good scores. I think they're afraid of the next presidential elections as a result, so they're having the usual neoliberal reflex: go full fash.

      Mind you, I imagine they're also expecting social troubles that'll make the yellow vests look nice by comparison given the upcoming economic depression, so they also might be trying to have cops on their side as much as possible. That specific part of the law has been a request of cops for years; it's absolutely asinine, and has been condemned even by right-wing newspapers in France and by countless human rights organizations both in France and elsewhere, as well as by the UN. The debates around the law itself were a joke. The law comes right after months of protests and countless instances of police abuse being published on the web at the same time - the idea here is clearly to prevent cops being filmed in general to hide such instances of violence.

      Also, see that "with malicious intent" in the tweet above ? yeah, well the text of the law itself says (roughly) that publishing those vids with malicious intent towards the "psychological integrity" of cops is enough for it to be an infraction. So basically any cop can say he felt threatened and he has at the very least grounds for attempting to sue.

      I should also mention that this is only a small part of a terrible law: among other things, it also makes access to drones and their footage much easiers for cops, as well as access to video surveillance footage in general. It also permits cops to go to enclosed public places with their weapon even when outside their working hours - so with that law, a bar cannot refuse entry to an armed cop even outside that cop's working hour (which is batshit insane).

      So yeah, this is much, much worse than even those tweets suggest, and an incredibly worrying development here. Related political cartoon (the rooster is roughly saying "that wind from the right is muddling my face").

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      Even if it wasn't false flag, they had all this shits prepared waiting for an excuse like this.

      Edit: yeah ok the first incident was surely real, but projecting that fucking cartoon in response? really?

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          Well the original incident from some weeks ago is probably legit, but projecting that fucking cartoon in response, c'mon!

          • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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            Who was projecting the cartoons though? I've heard it was some local government or something.

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      Seems like it. Let's see how that's going to work out for them.

    • anthm17 [he/him]
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      It's also because Macron saw the mass protests and decided the best way forward is totalitarian oppression.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    Posting the home addresses of those pigs on social media articles about their crimes is not sharing a photo or video. It still gets them to eat their service weapon. Win/win

  • vorenza [any]
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    France is very strict with their public recording policies, according to their law you should take permission from people to post your video online if it contains their face even for a brief moment(this is not enforced most of the time, but it is there). That law's existence probably made this one easier to pass.

    I think it's bullshit though, a random private citizen and state's enforcement personel is not on the same level for these stuff

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    But only american cops are bad!

    -the enlightened Redditor being dragged off to the camps

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      Who had ever said this?

      • Amorphous [any]
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        Go say "ACAB" on some left-liberal subreddit and you will have an inbox full of nothing but that sentence said in a thousand different ways

          • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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            I mean it's pretty standard. The best excuse for anything that sucks shit in any european country is "Well atleast it's not as bad as America." and that's some shit-tier defense of horrific stuff that happens with tacit approval.

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      As someone from Germany, I'm so tired of people saying "haha Europe so normal look at America and orange man"

      Meanwhile Polish anti-LGBT protestors are setting houses with pride flags on fire and in Germany, anti-maskers are trying to storm the parliament, France is now also going full fash

      the only reason the UK and the US get so much more shit is because the whole world can understand what they're saying

  • MauriceThorez1917 [he/him]
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    I'm french and i find this law disgusting, the country is becoming more fascist and racist each day.