Need a politics-free safe space? It's called "going for a walk"

  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    "Why do people want to talk about stuff that affects their daily lives so damn much???"

  • TawnyFroggy [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Need a politics-free safe space? It's called stop supporting people who want me dead.

    Like I genuinely get mad when people say stuff like "I don't want politics in my x" or whatever, because YEAH. ME FUCKING TOO. Do you know how much I would love not feeling on the defensive at all times due to the pending casual extermination of people like me that you are either supporting or ignoring?????? If all the libs wanted me to be a lib like them they could have simply not made me life hell.

    • lazyraccoon@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      If they persecute you for having a different opinion that doesn't enforce anti-tolerance, then they are not liberals.

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          • mars [none/use name]
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            The expression (don't know the origin) is "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds." Basically pointing out the historical tendency of liberals to prefer a fascist-managed capitalism if their interests are threatened or it becomes clear the liberal order won't last (and could be replaced from the left).

            • lazyraccoon@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              Thank you!

              Definitely a valid expression for when liberals dress up self interest in the guise of principles of freedom.

              Not hipocrisy when the left parties enforce the tyranny of the majority though. In that case, the criticism becomes strawman fallacy.

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    • bug@lemmy.one
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      1 year ago

      Firstly, that sounds like a shit situation to be in, so please don't think I'm dismissing your struggles here.

      I don't live in the same country as you and I have no power to even slightly affect your political situation. I read enough bad news about stuff that I at least have a chance to get involved in that sometimes I want to read some funnies on the internet without having to read about another shit situation. It's not because I don't care, it's because it's not worth stressing out further about something I cannot do anything about.

      So yeah, that's why people don't want so see US politics everywhere. Just because something is very important doesn't mean it's very important to everyone.

          • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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            1 year ago

            The bare minimum you can do is listen when someone is in pain and stand witness when they are under attack. I want to see when people are suffering, so I can figure out how to help, or at very least show solidarity. Obviously I can't take this in at all hours of every day, but that's time I spend alone or with an IRL friend, not on an online messaging board.

            • bug@lemmy.one
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              1 year ago

              Other way round for me, my IRL time contains the serious shit, I come online for escapism

              • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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                1 year ago

                I don't know why you would go on the "people talking about events" platform and being surprised people are talking about events that aren't happy. That's just poor planning. I mean yeah, be there for your friends, but you should be able to have light or pleasant conversation pretty often, and steer away from troubling topics when you aren't up for it, far easier than online.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Trans rights are important to everyone and under threat in most of the world, so disagree

        These are all global problems because they’re caused by global systems lead by a global hegemon, the United States

      • rjs001@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        How do you know what country they live in and if the issue is relavent in your country or not?

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    I'm getting the impression from Lemmy that there's an overrepresentation of the particular demographic of comfortable middle-aged bookish software engineers who live in the US or Canada.

    • bigboopballs [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      comfortable middle-aged bookish software engineers who live in the US or Canada.

      That seems to be like 95% of both reddit's and lemmy's (or some other federated instances') user-bases.

        • abraxas@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          What word would you prefer to someone who tells you to your face that they intend to "put you up against the wall" and then asks if you "know what that means, you fucking lib"?

          I mean, I'm a demsoc, and of the last 20 death threats I have received in my life, 15 came from people who identify as Communist-Leninist. PLEASE give me a better word for them.

          • SexMachineStalin [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            Funny because of the dozens, if not hundreds, of death threats I've gotten, practically all of them come from zionists, NAFOs, keyboard nazis or the occasional trumpeteer.

          • HornyOnMain
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            1 year ago

            What word would you prefer to someone who tells you to your face that they intend to "put you up against the wall" and then asks if you "know what that means, you fucking lib"?

            Based

          • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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            1 year ago

            You don't know the difference between a demsoc and a socdem. You're not any kind of socialist, just a lib who likes the idea of being seen as leftist.

            • abraxas@lemmy.ml
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              And I bet you're fun at parties. Please oh great psychic, tell me more about myself?

              And actually, I do know the difference between demsoc and socdem. The formal definition for Social Democrat is "a supporter or advocate of a socialist system of government achieved by democratic means." That we are constantly painted as "filthy liberal" for wanting to respect the will of the majority is a disappointing and disgusting lie. And the ONLY people who accuse socdems of being fake leftists? TANKIES. Who are not, by any meaningful definition, more left than those of us with a soul.

              The only way I'm not a leftist is if your version of leftism says "fuck people, freedom, or democracy". In **your ** version of leftism, are you ok with being the 1% ruling by force against 99% who hate you? Think very carefully before replying to that.

              • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                And I bet you're fun at parties

                smuglord

                Social Democrat is "a supporter or advocate of a socialist system of government achieved by democratic means."

                That's what a demsoc is. Social democrats support capitalism with social programs.

                Who are not, by any meaningful definition, more left than those of us with a soul.

                Speaking of succdems look how even in their mind palace they're already dehumanizing anyone to the left of them. This helps when they cooperate with and enable fascist parties like they do every time in history. "Tankies don't have a soul and they're going to kill you first so it's okay to let the nazis kill them actually" I'm a REAL leftist :D

                • abraxas@lemmy.ml
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                  1 year ago

                  Social Democrat is “a supporter or advocate of a socialist system of government achieved by democratic means.”

                  That’s what a demsoc is. Social democrats support capitalism with social programs.

                  You should tell Webster they're wrong. And Wikipedia. And Brittanica.

                  By their definitions, a Socdem's insistence on using democracy at all costs is what differentiates between them and demsocs.

                  By why is it so important for you to insist everyone use your nonstandard definition of the terms? Also, your calling us "succdems" tells me exactly everything I need to know about your permission. If I'm not willing to murder people, I'm less than human to you enough to be given a silly nickname.

                  “Tankies don’t have a soul and they’re going to kill you first so it’s okay to let the nazis kill them actually” I’m a REAL leftist :D

                  At this moment, you're on the wrong side of the "First they came for" poem because you're the one rejecting the Left.

              • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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                1 year ago

                God, you're such a big dumb idiot of a lib. That's the definition of a democratic socialist, not a social democrat - you can tell by the way one of the groups are call socialists and the others are called democrats. Not only did you mix up your definitions, but you never actually managed to define democratic socialist - do you really know what the difference is if you can't even remember to talk about one of them? The answer, scrolling down your post history to where you called yourself a socdem, is no, you think they're the exact same thing, because you don't even have a surface level understanding of leftism. It only takes 5 minutes in leftist spaces to discover that anarchists, socialists, and communists of all flavour hate socdems for exactly your "no really, somehow we'll manage to vote socialism in this time" attitude, but you've never spent a single minute in them, because you're not a leftist.

                My version of leftism is called Marxism and is based in historical reality and current material conditions. Your version is fantastical utopianism that's convinced the elite are just going to give up the reigns any day now.

          • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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            1 year ago

            Death threats are an inappropriate and disproportiate response but have you considered that it is because you're more irritating to the left than you are to the right? Especially given how right wingers historically are massively more violent?

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Oh fuck off lol. The biggest instance literally preemptively removedd from everyone left of Bernie Sanders. Go back to reddit if you're afraid of getting called out for being politically illiterate.

        • LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          I'm guessing your autocorrect didn't like the word "defederated" and turned it into a word that's a slur if you don't include the 'd' at the end? lol

          also I agree with your comment.

          edit- Who wouldn't want to be called an outfox?

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            Lol yeah I was on my way back from my lunch break when I typed that no clue what it autocorrected too

            • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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              1 year ago

              I'm guessing it dropped the F and rearranged the rest into the R slur. I can't think of any other word with most of those letters, and it is a word otuside of the slur context, a verb meaning "to slow down"

          • mars [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            Okay so I followed the first part, you want Russians dead and all that, it's the thing rn. But you realize saying "launch the nukes" is exactly the same thing as "death to America" but with more steps, right?

          • rjs001@lemmygrad.ml
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            1 year ago

            You don’t even know the name of the party. Don’t speak on things you clearly know nothing about

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        "Everyone to the left of me isn't being actively purged from the platform and it's not to my tastes"

        Fucking leave then

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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    1 year ago

    Now this is a post I can get behind.

    Take a hike, hug a tree, run your fingers through blades of grass, stare at nature and take it in.

    Maybe even get a cheeky grill in while you're at it grillman

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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        1 year ago

        Alright so what you need is 3 large portobello mushrooms, ¼ cup canola oil (or oil of your choice), ¼ cup balsamic vinegar, 3 tablespoons chopped onion, and 4 minced cloves garlic.

        First Clean the mushrooms; remove stems, reserving them for another use. Place mushroom caps gill-side up in a shallow dish.

        Then Combine oil, balsamic vinegar, onion, and garlic in a small bowl. Pour mixture evenly over mushroom caps; let marinate at room temperature for 1 hour.

        Go and Preheat the grill to medium-high heat; grease the grate.

        Lastly, Grill those suckers over the hot grill until caramelized and tender, about 5 minutes per side; serve warm.

        • huf [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          you do drink the mushroom water that collects in the cap while grilling, right? you cant just pour that out!

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  • GivingEuropeASpook [they/them, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Lies! I went outside and I saw a poster about CLIMATE CHANGE, and then I turned the corner and heard a family complaining about minimum wage being too low! So unfair, I just want to be ignorant of other people's suffering.

  • CarbonScored [any]
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    1 year ago

    If I wasn't a slave constantly in fear of malnourishment, illness, homelessness, police violence, jail and/or pain, I might not care so much.

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  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    You know how if a pipeline is blocked, the pressure will continue to build up, backing up with oil, seeping it into everything nearby because it can't go forward, until eventually a rupture occurs? That's why "everything is political these days."

  • HornyOnMain
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    1 year ago

    Anti communists can stay malding

    Hexbears stay winning mao-wave

  • dartos@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    Lemmy has some very aggressive communists.

    I’ve been lucky enough to dodge the crazy right wingers though.

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      thinkin-lenin i wonder if maybe not having right wingers has something to do with having aggressive communists to run hem off.

      No. It must be lib magic

        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Thats a real self own. Do you think you voted away the "greater evil", or libs did anything to make them go away?

          You are the lesser evil. And we're not fine with you.

            • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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              I'm not your buddy lib. Why would i be your buddy when you think I'm comparable to a fascist?

              I'm supposed to trip over myself to be civil to you when you call us the "lesser evil" to fascism?

              • CheezyWeezle@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                Damn, we found their trigger word! Lesser evil! LESSER EVIL!

                It's funny how hypocritical you are right now, too. You wanna label "liberals" as fascist, but get all pissy when the same happens to you with the same amount of credibility.

                What's funny is that you lot all seem to fail to realize that "Liberalism" is not inherently left or right wing, unless you are a reductionist who doesn't believe that social liberalism exists and only believe Classic Liberalism exists. You all talk big about your political knowledge and how nuanced your beliefs are, and then you fall victim to the classic conservative notion of reductionism. Seeing "lib" used as an insult around here is just as hilariously pathetic as all the "snowflake" shit

                • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  trigger word

                  It's funny how

                  What's funny is

                  Terminal reddit brained response smuglord

                  I never called a lib a fascist. Liberalism is inherently right wing because its the ideology of capitalism. I understand that there's distinctions between different types of liberals, and between them and fascists. I did call libs like you and the other poster, to use their phrase "the lesser evil" because you support capital but arent fascists.

                  If you don't like being lumped in with other right wing tendencies then stop supporting capital. Its not our fault that reality is marxist che-si

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      • CheezyWeezle@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Nah I'm pretty sure it's the same reason why Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus are never seen in a room together

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Yes I go into a phone booth as my normal commie antifa self and come out as Chudly Dugsfermpt local pool supply company owner and lover of Milton Friedman

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          meanwhile in the real world it's liberals and fascists who are joined at the hip https://orgrad.wordpress.com/articles/liberalism-the-two-faced-tyranny-of-wealth/

        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Wait are you trying to say we're the same people?

          Or that the reason is so simple why we're not in the same rooms together that a child should be able to understand it?

        • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Yeah I might be pushing for universal liberation during the day but at night I put on my maga hat and try to create fun new unjust hierarchies /s

        • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          yeah sure the people who want everyone fed and housed for free and who require pronouns are right wing.

        • HornyOnMain
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          1 year ago

          Yes, every night I stop being a bisexual trans communist and put on my MAGA-Man leotard superhero suit and start ranting about immigrants and the woke gender ideology to people on the street

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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      1 year ago

      Almost like the very aggressive communists have a nose for right wing nut jobs and relentlessly hound them until they log out

      • dartos@reddthat.com
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        I think that’s awful an immature behavior. When you fight idiocy with aggression (at least on social media) you just get idiots who think they must be right and start truth social or something

          • dartos@reddthat.com
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            I usually just ignore them.

            I find that a lot of crazy right wingers do it to “own the libs” or get a rise out of their supposed enemies. It’s all just a sports game to people like that.

            If you ignore them they get bored and stop being so staunch in their awful beliefs. When you fight with them it makes them feel like they’re right. You end up forcing them to rationalize every shitty position.

            Almost nobody posts on the internet trying to challenge and reconsider their beliefs, so it’s not like you’re going to change their mind anyway.

            I mean that’s what I think, at least

            • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              I usually just ignore them.

              Does ignoring the fascists make them go away? Please.

              If you ignore them they get bored and stop being so staunch in their awful beliefs. When you fight with them it makes them feel like they’re right. You end up forcing them to rationalize every shitty position.

              So now you're accusing us of making fascists more fascist, as an excuse for your ridiculous theory of just ignoring fascism.

              like you’re going to change their mind anyway.

              Its not even about changing their minds. Its about forcing them out of shared spaces. Fascists should driven out, shamed, harassed, and redacted.

              What you think is lib bullshit that gets your spaces infiltrated and taken over by fascists and reactionaries.

              You want to ignore them fine, but don't condescend to people who confront them and drive them out of shared spaces as if you have a more "mature" solution. Your solution is literally "if i close my eyes they go away" baby logic

                • SexMachineStalin [comrade/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  We actually study history and read shit. Like I just finished reading Long Walk to Freedom & Armed and Dangerous, both are a fairly good firsthand on how "fascists" respond to non-violence and only start to have reservations when the oppressed shoot back.

                  Oh and PIGPOOPBALLS

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            • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              When you fight with them it makes them feel like they’re right. You end up forcing them to rationalize every shitty position.

              Literal fascist talking point. "Look what you made me do"

              I mean that’s what I think, at least

              Investigate before you start thinking next time. Are trans children out there looking for fights just by existing or is your belief that fascists need to be provoked first founded on nothing but bullshit?

              • dartos@reddthat.com
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                1 year ago

                Yknow I’m talking about on social media platforms, right?

                Frothing at the mouth raging at someone on a social media platform doesn’t do anything but cause more radicalization, so I just ignore people instead. I don’t spend most of my life fighting with people on the internet over politics.

                • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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                  1 year ago

                  Frothing at the mouth raging at someone on a social media platform doesn’t do anything but cause more radicalization

                  Are you deadass actually suggesting that people are transphobic ableist nazis because communists go after nazis online?

                  or are you saying that it radicalizes more people into avid antifacsist communists, which is an unambiguously good thing (unless youre on team nazi)

                  This is a real question, please answer.

                • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  I don’t spend most of my life fighting with people on the internet over politics.

                  You won't push back on fascists, but you can't shut up when pushing back against people who believe in pushing back fascism.

                  cause more radicalization

                  Its been pointed out multiple times now that this is literally a fascist talking point. Pushing back against fascism is not what makes people fascist. In fact its how we protect the targets of fascism on shared spaces online or off.

                  As has also been pointed out to you some people just existing is seen as an incitement by fascists. What are they supposed to do? They can't just ignore threats and the invalidation of their humanity. That you can shut your eyes to that says a lot about you.

        • HornyOnMain
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          1 year ago

          Regardless of handwringing about it, the fact remains that we've driven out and proud fascists off of lemmy instances that we're federated with. The simple existence of hexbear pulls the Lemmy overton window so far left that social democrats are now the right wingers - this is a good thing.

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      • DudePluto@lemm.ee
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        Which sounds great until you realize that many of them define right wing nut jobs as anyone who's not a Marxist-Leninist

        Edit: LMAO exhibit A below me. "We're not sectarian, they're just not real leftists." Yeah guys, you're doing exactly what I said

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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          1 year ago

          Here's a bare-bones answer to get whether or not you're a right-winger or Left-winger. I emphasize again, this is a bare-bones answer that's leaving out a lot of other stuff.

          Who should have ownership over the means of production, or Capital Goods if you want to use non-marxist lingo. If you say the working class should have ownership over the means of production then you're left-wing. If you say capitalists should have ownership over the means of production then you're right-wing.

          • DudePluto@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            Yeah I can get behind this, and I'd say you're right that it's the bare-bones definition of the economic left vs right divide.

            But then you have people who will look at market socialists, anarchists, or some other brand of leftism and call them secret fascists or something like that. It's my experience (and yours may differ) that MLs are eager to insist that theirs is the only way and dismiss the rest.

            Not all MLs are this dogmatic. But when a leftist is this dogmatic, they always seem to be ML

            • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              fake Marxists who ignore the basics of marxist? heck yeah we hate them. I've yet to see any fake anarchists or MLs on hexbear that werent immediately banned tho

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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              1 year ago

              But then you have people who will look at market socialists, anarchists, or some other brand of leftism and call them secret fascists or something like that. It's my experience (and yours may differ) that MLs are eager to insist that theirs is the only way and dismiss the rest

              What you're describing is the analysis of Marxism-Leninism on other socialist tendencies based off of the historical materialist end results of their respective ideologies. A very simple example of this would be is how Marxists would prod anarchists as being more idealist over materialist over the fact that the more idealist members of the anarchist faction advocate for the immediate and total abolishment of the penal system can't reconciliate the fact that anarchists reestablished the penal system during the Spanish Civil War on their turf due to the material conditions they faced forcing them to make that decision. There's a lot more to this discussion that's being left out with plenty of worthwhile perspectives from all Left factions on the civil war in regards to this and much more.

              It's in this regard that marxists will ruthlessly critique all ideological threads and each other all in the name of finding the most materially realistic path to Socialism within their respective home countries - and historically, revolution is the only means to the goal of establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat and a scientific socialist society.

            • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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              There is not a valid distinction between economic left and political left, or economic right and political right.

              There is the left and its various tendencies and ideologies (anarchists, communists, MLs, etc.) And the right and its various tendencies (liberals, conservatives, libertarians, fascists etc.)

        • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          The people I see deploying this take the most are the same people who think Democrats are communists

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      It's like studying an ecosystem; once you see the fascists, the aggression of the communists suddenly makes sense

    • FactuallyUnscrupulou [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Talking about inconveniences and commiserating with others is just life. Acknowledging systemic issues may be the source of your misfortune is politics.

      • JackbyDev@programming.dev
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        1 year ago
        • I had to wait aong time in traffic today.

        ✔️

        • Public transit would be a nice alternative.

        🚨🚨🚨 POLITICS DETECTED 🚨🚨🚨

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Every boss, every landlord, every school board member, every person on your HOA committee you will ever interact with is deeply involved in politics and that has a direct impact on your life, whether you realize it or not.

      • s0ykaf [he/him]
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        And therein lies the problem, you and a lot of people like you, genuinely can't differentiate life and politics

        the problem is precisely that for us politics has a practical effect on our daily lives. we have to worry about it, and talk about it, because if we simply let things go we get absolutely fucked

        good for you that your current condition makes you immune to even moderate sways in the political environment. that is not the case for millions of people, even the majority of them

          • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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            You're literally buying into the idea that politics can be separated from life which is what capitalist media benefits from in a roundabout way. Capitalists don't want us to think "everything is political" because it threatens their power.

            Humans are political animals, "my life isn't political" is just denying yourself agency so you don't have to worry about exercising a part of your consciousness that is healthy and normal to exercise.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        You are the textbook definition of what we refer to as the "out to brunch liberal" who gets annoyed at how the poors caring about their conditions inconveniences your entertainment and treat consumption.

        The best part about this for any marxists reading is that your user history is filled with art deco posts.

      • spiderjuzce@lemmy.sdf.org
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        1 year ago

        Maybe I can't differentiate because people make my life political. Good for you that's not a problem but other people exist like me and have this issue. A lot of people seem to lack awareness of others and act like they're in the right. It's childish.

        I once worked for someone who thought like you. He was a real redneck. When I walked in, he looked at the hiring manager and rolled his eyes. I ended up doing the best out of anyone on my first day and it was physically intense. He apologized to me later because he gained an awareness that other people can exist differently without him being a bitch about it. You should learn from him.

  • Fuck Yankies@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Awwww =3 poor widdle doom scroller. Is there too much politics? Well tough tits, youngin! Everything is political and you should be able to accept it popping up everywhere.

    As for fatigue from politics that try to subvert and enrage you, have you tried not listening to said politics? What? You watch Tucker Carlson?! GTFO here...

    • Skimmer@lemmy.zip
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      Everything is political and you should be able to accept it popping up everywhere.

      True, god forbid people have an escape from real life's bullshit in something like a meme community.

      I seriously don't understand this original post or comments like this here at all. It doesn't make any sense to me how you guys can't see why people are annoyed at seeing politics 24/7 on Lemmy, even in random completely unrelated places, like memes. If you want to start your own politically charged memes community, then go for it, but I don't understand at all why that content should be posted here in a general memes community that has nothing to do with politics in the slightest, or how/why you guys are justifying it. I don't think it's a big ask at all, but I digress.

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        Honestly it sounds like you came into an already existing place and are upset that it doesn't cater to you. Presumably this means you assume the default of things is catering to you.

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            True, I came into a general meme community not expecting it to be politically charged (common sense)

            You're really falling back on "common sense" huh?

            to which it seems like people agree with me and had similar expectations...

            I can see the same thread you can. This is a mischaracterization of the feedback you've received.

            what's your point?

            Not everything is catering to you. You're coming in to this with a really entitled attitude.

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                Lemmy was written by literal communists and was full of literal communists until all the ledditors came over. You weren't expecting the memes community on the communist reddit clone to have any political memes?

                And you weren't expecting it but were exposed to it, why are you complaining instead of blocking the community and going somewhere else. Do you feel like existing communities should bend over backwards to suit your preferences?

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        • Skimmer@lemmy.zip
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          How did you misconstrue and twist my point this badly? You just made a few massive jumps here that make no sense to me at all, and I'm not sure as to what brought you to those conclusions based off my reply. Maybe this is a joke that I'm missing?

          Things you are fine with aren't bullshit to you and therefore they are nonpolitical.

          ???? Political things are political. Nonpolitical things are nonpolitical. What I'm "fine with" has nothing to do with what I find political or not, and I never claimed otherwise. No idea where you got that from or what in my reply alluded you to that. Did you read a different comment and just accidentally reply to mine? Genuinely wondering at this point, that would explain it for sure.

          At the end of the day, I'm not promoting or defending a specific political agenda like you're making it out as, you have no idea who I am or what my political beliefs are or what I'm "fine with", I'm just saying I think political shit as a whole shouldn't be as prevalent as it is here in a random general memes community that has nothing to do with politics, and people are totally justified to be annoyed by or wanting to criticize that. I just don't understand at all why you're trying to make this out as some double standard, when it doesn't exist.

          Things that affect other people, making other people concerned about them, are bullshit to you because you got yours.

          Are you trolling? This is a general memes community, not a political recruitment center, like what??? Plenty of political and social issues directly impact me, but its irrelevant, and I still think its weird to force them into places that are completely unrelated, like a general memes community for instance. Not everyone makes or wants their entire life to be about politics, sorry I guess?

          I also never called any specific political issues or concerns bullshit... I assume you misunderstood my saying of "real life's bullshit", but I think it's clear and painfully obvious what I meant by that with the context, that life is full of issues and shit that go on 24/7, and sometimes people just want an escape and break from it over the internet, so no idea how or why you're twisting it this much, just like you've managed to twist everything else I said here. :/

          I'm sorry but I don't believe you made this comment in good faith at all, this is by far the dumbest and weirdest comment I have ever received in my life, if this was Reddit, I would give you an award for it, gg, like literally... what am I reading here? All you did was completely twist what I said and jump to massive conclusions about me, you should genuinely be ashamed, this is just embarrassing.

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            • Skimmer@lemmy.zip
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              There isn't much worth responding to in your wall of label-dodging sophistry.

              What are you still trying to insinuate by this? Why can't you just accept the fact that we have different opinions and there's nothing wrong with that, instead of accusing me of "label-dodging sophistry" or whatever else you can come up with. I never personally attacked you or your politics at all, so its just hard for me to understand why you're being like this. It isn't that deep. You're just treating me like I went out of my way to shit on you or your politics, when I never did, my point was completely irrelevant of any political belief I or you may have, unlike what you keep trying to frame it as.

              Politics exist, "bullshit" to you or not. Almost everything imaginable has political context and connections even if you plug your ears and make loud noises.

              Wow, I didn't realize I said politics didn't exist, thanks for informing me of that. Is there anything else I never said that I should know about?

              Like no shit, of course politics exist, and sure, a lot of things in life are political, but usually not to this extent that they are currently, and some people just want an escape from it through places like a general memes community that has nothing to do with politics in nature, that's all I was trying to say. People have a right to criticize or be annoyed by that, that was my point, but you can't seem to comprehend that.

              You're not sorry. Spare me the Reddit cliches.

              FWIW I do genuinely feel bad for having to respond this way to you, I'm perfectly open to talking to people with different perspectives or opinions than I have, but instead you chose to make a bad faith comment attacking me and completely twisting what I said, it's unfortunate.

              I don't think you're willing to leave your bubble and see that the world is larger and more intersectionally connected than your selfish whining about how the world other people inhabit isn't as comfortably easy for you to ignore anymore.

              I think you base your entire life off of your political beliefs and can't understand that others don't feel the same way. It isn't that hard to understand.

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      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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        Memes are DNA of the soul. Of course there's politics involved because it impacts the soul.

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    When I go for a walk, the car-based infrastructure makes everything a nuisance until I get on a trail some distance from where I live. Turns out politics is everywhere.