This game is pretty cool but the imperialist propaganda is grating. I looked up the original Rainbow 6 book and the protagonist is a CIA operative who forms a NATO counter-terrorism group, Rainbow (because they’re so diverse). The bad guys are a group of left wing eco terrorists. At the end, since there won’t be enough evidence to convict the terrorists, he strips them naked and leaves them in the middle of the Amazon to die (since they love nature so much). American culture is so cool, Tom Clancy is our hero.

    • charles_xcx [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      wtf i was just playing that the other day and didn't realize that, i thought JBA stood for john birch's army or something lol

  • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Alternatively-

    I played a couple hours of Ghost Recon: Wildlands completely ignoring the story line and just spending the whole time running around with an AK helping the socialist rebels and that was pretty dope.

    I refuse to learn what actually happens in the story.

  • Tiocfaidhcaisarla [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    God, I loved the splinter cell games as a kid. Maybe only played the first 2 or 3, in one you basically kill Che, it's so shit looking back, good stealth game play though, IIRC. There was also a ghost recon game where I think there's a coup in Russia putting the soviets back in power? Wonder where that idea came from. I remember the last mission you're in Moscow and they put the Russian tricolor back up and it's so celebratory. If only I knew, where's the assassinate Yeltsin game we deserve? And finally I recently discovered my roommate had a 360 in the closet, and visiting another friend borrowed a couple games. Some Forza game that is made for mountain dew chugging dweebs (sorry) and Splinter Cell, I think Blacklist.

    The opening sequence are Russians taking over an American military base (America does no wrong, it's only foreigners who bring us down) and then a broadcast pointing out there are American bases in over 100 countries, and if those troops aren't brought back in like 100 days then bad stuff happens. That's it. That's the plot, your motivator. And I'm there like, how can I help them? It's no surprise Tom Clancy was a chud and his brand is chud shit, I just can't believe how much of that went over my head or was even internalized as a kid, and that brand is still out there brainwashing g*mers. Pretty sad ngl.

    Imagine if the Soviet Union were still around and games were coming out. I mean it may just by VR tetris but if there were games with left wing ideology being produced by a major studio in the Eastern bloc, god damn baby. We could be playing kulak krusher 8 rn.

  • a_maoist_quetzal [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    well the action of the game is that you're a bunch of international cops all dornering each other...

    but yeah, military shooters are super chuddy. the newer dooms are at least radlib, iirc the energy source is literally derived from the suffering of human souls

    edit: doom struggle session

    https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Argent_Energy#History

    so the energy comes from the transformation of humans into demons, and for a long time it was just used for sustenance by the demons themselves. then the maykrs increase their exploitation of the energy through torture and colonization. doomguy's task is to then rip and tear his way through the colonized on his way to the big bad guys? maybe there's something in the transformation of the tortured souls into demons that's like, the Settler's contention about how the "proletariat" of imperialist nations has bourgeois consciousness? but the supposition is that the human souls would turn into demons on their own over time, so that might be the anti-materialist thread to pull.

  • FunnyUsername [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I played the first Splinter Cell for the first time a few months ago and the story was really stupid. Georgia is gonna invade Azerbaijan and a rogue Chinese general gave Georgia nukes and the world is on the brink of war but deep state spy man saves the day by assassinating the president of Georgia. The best part was when Sam Fisher and his daughter are watching the news talk about the president being assassinated and he laughs and his daughter is like "wow dad I haven't seen you laugh since the Reagan administration" that was pretty funny

    Decent game though, I'll get around to the second one eventually

      • FunnyUsername [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah Michael Ironside is a good voice actor and if I ever get around to playing Blacklist then I already know him being gone will be one thing I don't like about the game.

  • throwawaylemmy2 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Tom Clancy had nothing to do with Siege. Ubisoft continues to slap his name on their games because it sells.

  • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Fun Tom Clancy fact: to avoid taxes, he put the trademark to "Jack Ryan" in his wife's name. Then they divorced on very poor terms, and she kept the trademark. That's why he published no more Jack Ryan books before he died, and the $ from the Amazon show goes to her.

    Also shout-out to him for the worst written sex scene in fiction, when Ryan's wife gives him a handjob with a dishtowel in the shower.

  • poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    I remember when I was a kid there was a controversy over a public figure using the word "removedrdly" in public and catching shit for it. Not sure which book it was, but following the controversy, Clancy used the word no less than two dozen times as a fuck you it's technically not the n-word. Dude was a grade-a shit pile.

  • T_Doug [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The best Tom Clancy book is either "Red Storm Rising" where the Soviets start WW3 because an oil refinery got destroyed, or "Executive Orders" where Jack Ryan becomes president and then immediately enacts a flat tax, and restricts abortion.