This is an instance we have never federated making a defederation post about us. You can search the instances page, we've never linked with a kbin instance. we've never interacted with kbin users. we don't even have to dunk on them for our posting power to overwhelm.
It's endlessly hilarious to me how utterly terrified liberals are of a highly-active explicitly-leftist forum that they're powerless to shut down. They simply don't know how to handle us, and it breaks their brains.
I'm not even political, but what the fuck is the capital owning class doing not having the means of production expropriated from their wretched, blood-stained hands?
I'm as conservative as they come, but it's undeniable that Mao's land reforms were one of the greatest accomplishments of the 20th century.
Liberals screaming and whining day and night about Jorge Waroll 1980 and demanding censorship of political opponents in the same breath
Yup and there isn't a long dead right wing space they can ban at the same time to pretend it wasn't just about shutting down any place left of Clinton.
That and sounds like the original creators of the site who had the idea to do reddit but without the pitfalls of capitalism aren't gonna be nearly as sympathetic to them wining about civility as the self professed self imagined post apocolyptic warlord of reddit.
they just assume we must be insincere and trolls because they cannot fathom our views, they never have once stopped and try to consider our perspective that we are actually communists
I’ve seen their brigading on lemmy communities before. They will also serial downvote anything they don’t like.
Reality can be whatever I want.
also bring back downvotes but only for federated servers
I still like the idea I had one time where mods have the ability to allow down votes on a post as a tool of moderation
i see so many people going "ahh hexbear users don't engage in good faith" and then say shit like this directly after, like itd be funny if i didnt see it every other day
Can't leave a comment on .world anymore without them crawling out of the woodworks to harass and insult you no matter the content of your comment. Hexbear may be lucky they defederated you so quickly.
Federation with Hexbear has been a highlight of my summer! They've just never heard anything but liberal propaganda their entire lives and don't take the time to think critically when they see opposing views or evidence that doesn't align with their beliefs.
Kbin doesn't comply as well with ActivityPub standards, and it shows posts and comments from Hexbear, which Kbin users comment on and reply to.
Here's an example of a Kbin user commenting on a Hexbear post. But that kbin.social comment doesn't show up on lemmy.ml, because, after all, Hexbear doesn't federate with kbin.social.
So Kbin users are replying to Hexbear, maybe with the intent of rebutting, and Hexbear users never respond. If I were a lib, I'd think I won an argument or something
I really wish there was a bot or something to grab all the defedded libs responses to stuff here. That could be quality dunk tank material.
ngl, I hate writing go because they managed to design a language that learned nothing from 30 years of development on programming languages. the structure of the code is invariably obscured by the never ending boilerplate, it's impossible to abstract over common patterns or even to write parameterized data structures, and a modern programming language with nulls is inexcusable.
"The key point here is our programmers are Googlers, they’re not researchers. They’re typically, fairly young, fresh out of school, probably learned Java, maybe learned C or C++, probably learned Python. They’re not capable of understanding a brilliant language but we want to use them to build good software. So, the language that we give them has to be easy for them to understand and easy to adopt."
it's such a deeply reductive and patronizing view of the capacities of other human beings. one of the languages they're referring to is Haskell, so using it as an example, someone took it to a primary school near where they lived and taught it as a summer school program to said primary school students (I believe in Brazil). they picked it up readily. conversely, adults who all ready know how to code struggle with the language.
that is, it's precisely because we presuppose that these languages are "too complicated" and don't teach them that creates the circumstances where people struggle to learn. if you expect that people can learn and change and give them support, it's feasible in most cases. if you presuppose that they can't, well by golly what do you know, they can't.
in other news I hate Rob Pike.
I'm not really competent at Haskell, but having my first language be FORTRAN of all things certainly flattened the learning curve. It's not all that hard you just have to approach it without preconceptions.
I feel that discussing Go is very much a "a vote for Bart is a vote for anarchy" situation. All those are perfectly valid points. But in the end do they really matter in day-to-day situations?
Personally I'm willing to forgive a lot of interesting design choices for all the other benefits the language has. Super-fast compile times, massive standard library that's automatically multithreaded, the elegant simple beauty that is the channel system, one enforced style that helps readability of others' code, easy cross-compilation, memory safety, C-like syntax that's easy to pick up, etc etc etc.
personally the tedium of writing the same code over and over again + the inability to express invariants to the compiler so it can check my work for me is just plain worth more to me. I'm too dumb and ADHD for it.
That said, I’ve been starting hobby projects with Go+HTMX for about a month and that’s been pretty fun
Amen to that! Go is easily my favourite language for writing web backends. 95% of what one needs for the average web project is part of the standard library, including that really nice automatically-multithreaded web server. And the html templating is wonderful to work with. Most of what I write has to work javascript-free in a default-settings Tor browser. Go's templating makes it really simple to do server-side rendering of complex pages.
A nice bonus is that the very C-like syntax meshes well with my grew-up-on-C brain. For me PHP's syntax is downright Lovecraftian.
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this is what the. hex bear wants. we cannot link the Goulash Arch-pelican at them.. 1987
Sounds like we should make some posts making fun of them and see if they can respond
How can they see us if we can't see them?
Are they g-g-GHOSTS???
we are being haunted by the specter of some stupid dime-a-dozen libs
Imagine being this much of a fucking loser
Liberalism takes hold in the human mind as a defense mechanism against feeling helpless.
We're definitely triggering to most libs. Probably to a degree far worse than conservatives.
Imagine you have this highly idealized worldview that paints politics as a grand battle between good and evil. You aren't content with the state of things, but shit wouldn't be so bad if more people would just
. You want nothing more than for the right combination of candidates & slogans to appear to allow fixing things.Then some fucking guy comes along and tells you the conditions in your perfect storm political scenario are entirely insufficient at achieving your goals. He says not only that your sole mechanism for exerting influence over the world is worthless, but also achieving your goals is dependent on subverting that mechanism entirely.
That must feel insanely uncomfortable. Virgin minds will ferociously resist accepting the helplessness without an alternative mechanism to provide that hope.
Hence why we must be Russians or crypto fash or something. Conceding any of our points means introducing those feelings of helplessness. It is simply safer for one's ego to believe we're incognito bad guys™ than accept that people who want the same ends don't believe in the holy means.
Then some fucking guy comes along and tells you the conditions in your perfect storm political scenario are entirely insufficient at achieving your goals. He says not only that your sole mechanism for exerting influence over the world is worthless, but also achieving your goals is dependent on subverting that mechanism entirely.
That'd be like some non-Hogwarts wizard showing up in the final Harry Potter book, telling Harry that his ideology is bullshit and that the magic nazis will never stop returning while Harry's a status quo magic cop, then shoving that liberal nerd aside and actually bringing magic to the people because magic eugenics is also a lie.
That'd be awesome.
"Hey you know how there's three spells that are way more powerful than any other that our opponents have no problem using, maybe we should stop fighting with one arm tied behind our back"
gasps, pearl clutching
You reminded me I need to check out Reign of the Seven Spellblades because, at the very least, some people here might really like it. It earned points with me by pointedly centering a Hermione-like advocate for "hey, maybe wizards shouldn't do slavery to magical creatures" and not having her be brushed aside so casually.
Buying their own bullshit.
They think they're better than republicans to the point they don't even really care about their opinions because they recognize they're a bunch of bigots.
They also think they're as "progressive as they come" so therefore they're the best person.
So if there is somebody that actually is more progressive than them either thay aren't a faultless moral paragon, or thenother people are lying.
We see the level of self reflection they're capable of.
Maximum left is when you want Nancy Pelosi presiding over 400+ democrats in the house really really really badly.
If you want anything other than that you're either a conservative or a Russian bot.
We literally can't even downvote it it's just "I mean I could post there but they'd all yell at me about why I'm wrong so I'll just reassure myself I'm right"
Kbin sucks and is full of people who were mostly just scared of the Lemmy devs for being communists
What do you expect from software made by a polish guy and which full name is "Karabin".
Guess what that translates to? Rifle! Yeah of all the names to choose it's a device of death.
cringe
Jean Paul Sartre would vote to defederate:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge.
But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors.
They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert.
Hexbear, as an entity, exists to troll and disrupt discussions, not to participate in them.
Jean Paul Sartre would call them libs and tell them to read Fanon.
"I don't understand the things they say and they make me uncomfortable with my own worldview, so they must all just be evil trolls existing to make my brain hurt, because, as a liberal, I'm the most important person!
holy shit lmao
kbin users are the ones too stupid to realize that "tankie devs" means fuck all for an open source project
Getting very "antifa is going to come to your suburban neighborhood and steal your flatscreen" vibes from this.
Yeah but my monitor's bent inwards instead of outwards now
I love how they're using trans people in an argument when those trans people are the evil woke tankies they're complaining about
They love trans people in the abstract, as an innocent victim they can "protect" from the republicans. They hate actual, real world messy trans people, who act like human beings instead of idealised victims. Same with any group libs claim to care for really, they only like them when they are victims in need of protection, and hate it when they stand up for themselves.
To liberals, holding the right opinions is praxis. Having done their "praxis", they can use it to bludgeon actual leftist praxis, lest you interfere with the benefits their performance provides.
They achieve not trans, indigenous, or queer liberation, but a feeling of superiority and self content that provides enough moral licensing to justify whatever bastard shit they need to excuse. Being a good opinion haver™ lets them continue doing nothing with their ego unscathed.
This strengthens the dialectical relationship between doing nothing & reaction, effectively putting action in the corner. Status quo maintained.
They love minorities until those minorities want to do literally anything than vocally support their current neoliberal savior.
Kind of like how all the back bench "promising future leaders of the democratic party" are just minority neoliberals.
We've got the gay neoliberal who's deffinitly not a Cia spook.
We've got the black lady neoliberal who thinks pot should stay illegal so we can continue using slave labor
We've got the cool young hip swearing neoliberal who's main policy is telling Texans explicitly he's going to take their guns.
The ol' TC gave Hexbear the tick of approval? I'm shocked and surprised. I would've thought he'd have never heard of it, but apparently he's your biggest fan! I'm sure this person has a very solid and reliable source for this and certainly didn't just pull it out of their ass.
We should federate with them so we can then defederate with them.
Even within the sanctity of their own homes they live in fear. The vicious sounds of dunks from a bygone era faintly echoing through each room. Kbin users are living a nightmare brought upon them by the merciless brutality of the hexbear posters. No matter where they run to, where they hide to, there is no where that the dunks do not plague their once joyous minds.
Hexbear killed a bajillion posters. It's why Lemmy's active numbers are going down
The so-called "freedom fighters", defenders of "democracy" and the right to free expression are so frightened that they shit in their pants to see people with an opinion that diverge from hegemony.
