"The admins of chapo.chat are going on a banning spree for all TERFs and "transphobes" based on if users downvote posts that have anything to do with being trans. I downvoted a comment that said the admins should absolutely ban people based on their voting record lol. And since I didnt have a comment/post history, I'm apparently a Nazi TERF plant sent there to make LGBTs uncomfortable with using the website in an attempt to rid them from the "leftist movement".

It's amusing that everyone there is nostalgic for Stalin and Mao, and cartoonishly voice their full support for them every fucking day, I'm sure they would have fully supported the LGBT movement. I'm never leaving stupidpol again, I love all of you nazi [r-slur]s."

Bonus: "I was unbanned. I apparently only have one downvote left that Im allowed to use. Thank you benevolent moderators of Chapo.Chat. I promise to never downvote again."

This was very much unexpected and not predictable at all.

Edit: the op deleted it :party-sicko:

Edit 2 : It seems the above is fake news and the supidpol mods deleted it for damage control or something idk.

  • TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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    I didn't fully agree with tracking/banning people for downvotes rather than content, but the banned people's unhinged mask off reactions to might be changing my mind lol

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          I posted there recently and holy shit did I regret it. Believe it or not, a lot of them have fucked up ideas about race.

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              Is THAT what is going on there? I literally posted there for the first time yesterday and could not figure out wtf was going on with the replies.

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                yea, they're unironic class reductionists. it started chapo-adjacent but they didn't ban reactionary shit so it became a nazi sub in short order.

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                  If you don't come down on reactionaries swiftly and hard they will fucking multiply and push the limits of what they can get away with. Everytime.

                • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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                  it started chapo-adjacent but they didn’t ban reactionary shit so it became a nazi sub in short order.

                  It was rotten from the start: its two founders, gucci and crab, were the two worst posters on the old sub, and crab in particular would go on like 100+ comment rants furiously defending the honor of Al Franken and the google evopsych manifesto guy. I remember spending entirely too long fighting with both of them over trans issues (also literally everything else, because they were terrible on every issue) back in the day, and it was a good day when Ohmiglob finally banned crab.

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            yeah, they have fucked up views about every minority, because they despise the concept of intersectionality - they are reactionaries

            basically if you aren't a white guy and you dare to exist, in their eyes you are distracting from the goal of socialism and should shut up and take whatever you get bigotry

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            Once I posted that the right-wingers on the sub frequently de-rail discussion and add nothing of value, and I came back an hour later to a full-blown freakout. Got told stuff like “yeah well you can’t just ban all ideas you disagree with” and “the left will achieve nothing if we stay within our own fortress of opinions.” I didn’t even advocate banning the rightoids or anything

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              Banning rightoids is cool and good for this exact reason

              " Muh :freeze-peach: "

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                What does the emoji mean all I can think of is peach ice which i know isn't right

                • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                  I'm suddenly very aware that not everyone got radicalized through SRS and that makes me kind of sad for some reason

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              That's exactly it. I thought it was just another post-chapo sub and a lot of the posts are actually decent. And the woke liberal establishment frankly deserves to get criticized and mocked more than it does. But holy shit the rightoids in the comments make any discussion impossible.

              I made a post comparing racism to astrology and boy did they come out of the woodwork to defend scientific racism on a supposedly marxist sub. It's a shame. The reactionaries make any constructive discussion impossible. Unless.... UNLESS... :stalin-shining:

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              Haha you are exactly the type of user I imagine making those hysterical cryposts

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        Fucking commies arrested and deported me for being CIA for no reason!

        • Overheard in CIA cafeteria, Langley VA
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        telling on yourself

        What do you even mean by this? Like it’s going mask off that you’re not an authoritarian???

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          The term "authoritarian" is officially meaningless. Thank you for demonstrating that.

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            I mean if you think I’m using it wrong then yeah I guess it is. No problem being the catalyst you needed to realize you don’t understand what authoritarian means.

            Combing through downvotes for Wrongthink so you can remove them is downright authoritarian and I feel bad for anyone too dumb to see that.

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                You have a knack for telling other people things you need to tell yourself. Tragic, really. Good luck getting help!

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                  I know you're banned now, but damn, is "I know you are but what am I?" really the best you have?

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      Yet again proving the theorem that banning the 5-10% of trash from a community doesn’t actually do anything except make the community better.

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        I dont disagree with you, but there are people behind these accounts, and people change. if a user is bigoted enough to actually post something transphobic, yeah they've gone too far and we'd be better without them. but if voting history is the sole basis of a ban(perhaps implying their bigotry is mild), I'd say being a part of a pro-trans community would be beneficial to them. they could only get less transphobic by being a member here.

        this is a fun corner of the internet, and fun persuades people.

          • pepe_silvia96 [he/him]
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            i was hoping mods weren't banning based on ip or something.

            still tho, bans are bans. maybe, tag them with a flair and let people fuck with them.

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              My memory is that it was so consistent, like they'd set up a bot to automatically downvote trans stuff. You don't need an IP to track that. I vaguely remember some patsocs and stuff from the earlier days and on r/cth

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      This whole thing is just an op to get rid of any lingering lib feelings like "purges bad"

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    “I was unbanned. I apparently only have one downvote left that Im allowed to use. Thank you benevolent moderators of Chapo.Chat. I promise to never downvote again.”

    so does this mean the purge didn't go far enough? :stalin-shining:

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    [–]mrzbry[S] [score hidden] 44 minutes ago

    Yeah its fucking insane. They're posting the lists of users banned and the reason why. Mine was for being a "transphobe with reactionary voting patterns" lmao because I think its stupid that there is a circlejerk post every single day by the same user that says I LOVE MY TRANS COMRADES. Mods said they would use this same process to start rooting out ableism, misogyny, and sexism now too. And damn, they really hate stupidpol over there.

    Awww....the terf tears are delicious this time if year... :jb-shining:

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    Stupidpol is mostly full of upper middle class white social democrats whose insular community and lifestyles have led them to believe the working class only contains bigoted white male factory workers and coal miners from the Appalachian areas.

    Imagine being obsessed with trying to reconcile your ‘leftist’ ideology with your low key racism and prejudices.

    Fuck those morons

    I’ve met some cool Chapos who are in fact intersectional and simply post there because they hate liberal idpol, not leftist intersectionality, but they are few and far between. It’s mostly just reactionary social democrats who are apathetic to social issues or even actively hostile at worst.

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        Fuck off asshole. You probably post there, I don’t give a shit what you believe is bullshit.

        Edit: it’s always the same bullshit defense of stupidpol from the people who post there ‘it’s. just people who are tired of liberal idpol’, meanwhile there’s constantly posts shitting on Antifa and BLM (or advocating throwing out the race element of blm, completely ignoring why the movement started in the first place). Stupidpol is for leftists who are for whatever reason uncomfortable with fighting any oppression outside class oppression. Also love all the literal Nazbols openly posting there

        Fuck stupidpol

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        Do you have any idea how obnoxious you sound? You sound like me when I was like 19 and really upset about nonbinary people existing for some weird reason. Just grow the fuck up my dude.

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            The "excessive pronoun policing" is all in your head because it offends your privileged worldview, not because it's an actual problem in real life for most leftists. It's just you and a small bunch of privileged fucks like you.

            Isn't it weird that it's somehow this big problem for the left yet you're always being yelled out of every online community except your echo chamber?

            Grow up.

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        Literally go read the comments on that thread you tool, doesn’t really line up with the bs you’re spouting.

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    Okay I know I keep posting here but I didn't know what stupidpol was until now and holy crap that sub is a goldmine. It's like stepping back to 2000, with edgy teens calling things gay and other slurs. They're trying way too hard to be cool lmao.

    This gem in particular is the last I'll go on about it:

    "That's why the original dirtbag chapo sub before the left sub purges was a one in a million gift. You could be rude, crude, a piece of shit, come as you are asshole and be accepted and make rude jokes. But this shit, this shit is just DSA-breadtube psycho shit"

    Have I been visiting another site where you don't all post weird crude shit? Or are the only rude jokes they like at the expense of people who aren't our enemy, like trans folk?

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    Reminder that in a thread it was revealed that stupidpol users are full of landlords

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        https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/kgabrs/nothing_has_made_me_more_convinced_of_the/

        • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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          I hold the petite bourgeois to still be part of the proletariat. Then again, I’m a propertarian communalist... so my opinion is not representative.

          words don't mean anything I guess

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            propertarian communalist

            Isn't that just a fancy term for anarcho-capitalism? Holy shit, imagine being an ancap. The most incoherent ideology possible. "Let's get rid of the State but keep Capitalism, I'm sure megacorps won't own everything and rule over us all like slavers." What dummies.

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        It's not even that. Various people there are straight up magas. I don't think it's most or whatever but it often happens that I see someone posting some shit on reddit and then I look into their profiles and it turns out they post in r/Conservative and r/stupidpol.

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    JESUS CHRIST, check one of the replies: (CW:Transphobia, ableism)

    "It's fucking obscene over there right now. Rule by Cluster B. Half the users are curled up in the fetal position crying and asking each other if they've done enough to prove their unwavering commitment to "transpositivity" and the other half are demanding the admins extend the instaban to anyone who downvotes women/autists/whatever minority.

    Just lurking and reading that one admin, beatnik, taunting random users about monitoring them and putting them on lists pushed me a couple steps libleft. Fuck jannies, they're why we can't have nice things."

    Like holy shit the blatent lying. Apparently, we're curled up and crying to our trans overlords, when here I thought we were partying and celebrating purging the trash lol.

    The projection, or... whatever that is.

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      I'm still mostly opposed to the policy but I'm glad at least these weirdos are gone.

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    Love The fact some of them in that thread have resorted to insulting us as ‘mentally ill, suicidal’ and ‘autistic’. Remind me again how that sub is different than any other reactionary shit-hole?

    These people are psychopaths

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      Stupidpol was supposed to be a leftist sub that's against idpol but I've seen lots of very genuine chuds, Trump supporters etc post there.

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        Your leftism isn’t fit for purpose if you try and exclude marginalized groups concerns in favor of class Only

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          Thing is they're not even doing the class only thing, they had a whole thread where many people were whinging about the oppression of landlords or some shit.

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        They just sound like whiny and shitty leftypol, but atleast leftypol mocks the right wingers that try and post.

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    Comment from some dude named Elohim_the_2nd has me rolling. I believe this has copypasta potential. Thoughts?

    "Why would it move you Lib left? Most of the users being blanket banned are Marxist-Leninists, and the admins have a hardon for big tent left unity shit and will ban tankies for mocking anybody else. It appears this is a “lib left” radlib clique moving to get more control on the forum. There’s a group of unnamed “auditors” who have been given access to the logs and are making the lists. Seems like it should push you more tankie if anything. This kind of shit wouldn’t happen in a dem cent party once it reaches a critical size."

    :chonky-bear:

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        The ban on sectarianism is just a ban on disagreement effectively

        I kinda agree with this, actually.

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          nah, only the low effort "anarkiddies" / "tankies" shit actually gets banned. actual critique and discussion happens all the time.

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            nah, only the low effort “anarkiddies” / “tankies” shit actually gets banned

            You should tell that to BASED_BALL

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          if you think calling people "tankie" or "anarkiddie" is valuable disagreement/discussion idk what to tell ya, dude

          we get serious discussion here all the time. go scroll through the modlog for the stuff removed for sectarianism. without fail, it is all just mindless insulting / shitslinging toward massive groups of people for not being ML/anarchist enough

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              well lets take a look through the modlog together, then, shall we?

              "tankie is the real enemy to the revolutionary" says user ... "imperialchina." yeah, certain we'll be getting a lot of valuable discussion about our differences from this unbiased and level-headed individual

              "anarchists are super embarassing larpers ngl" says another user. cant believe the mods removed this important insight

              "Is this what passes for anarchist theory?" (entire comment, referring to a twitter thread) by a very well-read intellectual.

              "The only difference between Tankies and Fascists is racism,cultural fetishism, and capitalism and even all that shit's fucking debateable" says a picture removed for sectarianism, though I think the point of the picture was to laugh at this statement. dunno about this removal

              literally just this picture with the title "Lib test, don't fail" and then another post in the same vein by the same user

              then another post i dont have context on because it and whatever it was replying to were pretty thoroughly nuked

              and then "Left unity is a bad meme. Big tent shit is just liberalism." (entire comment)

              so much valuable discussion being SILENCED by the anarcho-stalinist cabal of admins

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                Is any of that "valuable discussion"? No, of course not. It's just bullshit.

                But should people be able to handle seeing that bullshit without running to the mods? Yeah, I think so.

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                  lol come on, you cant just move the goalposts on me like that. first you claim that the stuff being removed for sectarianism isnt just mindless shitflinging, now you're saying that it is mindless shitflinging but it should be left up anyway

                  what are you actually trying to say? be honest with me

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      That might be holdover from the first site drama, in which some MLs got banned on the discord for being super toxic, then proceeded to get banned from the site for spamming it. That's where the kerry spam originated.