Lol they think Western nations will happily take in non white refugees
Seriously. That was my first thought. Educated refugees coming in and taking the high paying jobs, which also drives down the wages of high earners, will be opposed immediately.
If you think the racism and outrage over poor Mexican immigrants taking the low wage jobs away from blue collar white working class rural families was big, imagine when the jobs get taken from the more well funded upper middle class.
Don't underestimate the power of propaganda. There's absolutely some kind of mania with asians in the US for example, and it'd not take a lot of effort to use this against China. Hell, there is even this weird asian tradwife meme among far-right circles, so they'd absolutely be able to be convinced to welcome their fellow honorary aryans anticommunists. As for the general public, some North Korea tier of propaganda would convince them to accept Chinese """refugees""".
the West will implode from having their consumer economies obliterated
:sicko-flipped:
The funniest thing about these posts is always that it has as much relevance to the real world as anime posters talking about their plans to propose to Rei Ayanami, except the latter is less pathetic.
This is so out of touch with reality it’s funny.
1: The EU has just signed a trade agreement with China, the USA is out of the TPPA, and the South and East Asian regions have integrated via RCEP. The USA’s capital markets are increasingly investing in China.
2: China’s state-led stimulus is literally the only thing that saved the global system from collapse after 2008. As the only major economy with positive growth in 2020, it’ll be key for Post-Covid recovery. There’s also the small fact that it has all the factories of the world. Any attempt to freeze it out via sanctions will cause just as much if not more unrest domestically in the aggressor countries, including within the capitalist class.
3: China will take one look at the USSR under Gorbachev and tell them to fuck off.
4: This promise wasn’t even followed through with for Hong Kong, let alone Syria. Also, Covid’s still a thing. People would rather ride out within China than flee, short of a civil war.
5: So India’s taking the bulk of the imaginary refugees? That’s gonna go down real well in a nascent fascist country.
6: Which borders are they going to militarily force open? Open up a map and point for me. India? It’s the Himalayas. Nepal, Laos, or Pakistan? Friendly. Mongolia or Bhutan? Neutral buffer states. Russia or North Korea? Lol. The various Stans around Xinjiang? It’s across a desert. The only option is Vietnam, and it’d neither be thrilled about an influx of Chinese refugees, nor about outright allying with the USA. That’s setting aside the difficulty of actually having a ‘military intervention’ against a near peer competitor on its home turf. We’re literally in ‘proposing a land war in Asia’ territory.
These are the sorts of fantasies that barely held up a decade ago. Now that Syria, Iran, Venezuela and the DPRK have withstood the onslaught, it’s laughable.
"angering its people" oh yeah I'm sure they'll be mad at their own government for getting blockaded. that's how that works
It worked in Iran... o wait now they're chanting death to America. Surprised Pikachu face.
America always seems to operate under the mistaken assumption that every country we don’t like has a sizable segment of the population that actually hates their government and yearns for American-style “freedom” and “democracy”.
Instead of observing reality, where the Chinese government has something like an 80-90% approval rating with its citizens.
Everyone wants to be you when your the bestest cuntery in the world.
It’s hilarious how little r/neoliberal understands neoliberal economics.
Galaxy-brained shit right here. I swear, neoliberal is fucking satire.
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Already happens.
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And everyone will revolt when all the cheap shit at Walmart isn't so cheap anymore.
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China tells the coalition of stupid to kick rocks.
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(&5) lol ... Imagine white people giving a fuck about refugees
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Back to war! Mission accomplished.
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ignoring the ghoulishness: this is smart because economic sanctions have done exactly this in cuba, iran, venezuela...
absolutely, this guy's entire post is absolute dogshit start to finish even within his own framing
It's also the fact that the Chinese market is massively profitable. When the day rises that the average wealth of a Chinese person rises to the point of supporting an more vibrant economy, they'll be busy buying things. They won't need to make or trade with western countries, unless they make something the Chinese need. Which won't be anything else at this rate lmfao
One of the biggest reasons the suicide of the USSR was a world-historical tragedy is that it's made liberals somehow even more cavalier about starting a nuclear war
If random attacks to regular US citizens of Chinese dissent over the "China Flu" taught me anything, it definitely isn't that the US population will welcome foreigners with open arms. Even if theyre 2nd or 3rd generation in the US
WW3! WW3! WW3!
They think America can win a massive war, we're letting vaccines expire.
these are literally the people who get mad at you for suggesting that almost all wars are bad and unnecessary but then they are like, "oh so you hate gay people of color then because they make up 5% of the military" or some insane shit
I honestly sometimes hate them more than chuds. At least chuds have the excuse of being dumb oafs who don't know how literally anything works. Some of these neoliberal types know how things work and still have vicious, inhumane politics.
To the neolibs, identity politics is just another arrow in an amoral quiver.
Plan falls apart pretty quickly when you realize 1. China controls all the industry so the coalition would have no cards to play against them. 2. China is definitely more self sufficient than other countries and probably could manage economic sanctions. 3. Half the world sanctioning China would very much turn opinion against the west, does this person think Cubans loved America after the bay of pigs or something?
The neolibs are pitching this playbook without realizing it's China's playbook.
Westerners are getting gradually squeezed out of Asia, losing a firm grip on Latin America, and being outmaneuvered in Africa.
Americans are no longer setting the national agenda. We're increasingly looking and acting like a rogue state.
Will it even be another decade before Californians are seeking asylum in Hong Kong?
Whatever your stance is on China, you have to admit they're probably the most powerful country in the world at the moment.
The US is rich but it's a disorganised and selfish wealth in the hands of a small group of people that don't know what the fuck they're doing. The only thing properly centralised is the military, and we all know war with China isn't going to be a physical altercation. Hell, even if it was, just because the US spends the most on the military doesn't mean that military is smart or efficient.
China has a lot more of its people who love their country and are willing to fight for it then America, whose people are becoming more dissatisfied with their country every day, and rightfully so.
