• Maquis_IT [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    What did Bernie get in return for this humiliation?

    • hotcouchguy [he/him]
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      He got input into a committee that will make a non-binding recommendation to another committee that will release a statement.

    • anthm17 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Nothing, he's just a michael tracey level public humiliation piggy.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          The most logical and reasonable explanation is Bernie not having the same values or moral compass as people thought.

          Whomever thought Bernie wasn't a Go-Along, Get-Along compromiser with a history of backing the party going back over 20 years wasn't paying attention.

          Win or lose, Bernie was always going to play the hand he was dealt. He's from the same school of Harm Reduction as Noam Chomsky, and right now Trump has him more spoked than anything the Dems are offering up.

          Whether that's wise is debatable. But it isn't some Heel Turn that happened in April. It's been a feature of Bernie's political life since the start.

        • theChariot [any]
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          SMH all that time wasted coulda been posting praxis on reddit

  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    Democrats are so desperate to maintain the fiction that they're not fighting absolute ghouls that they've created this whole "Never Trump Republican" mythos out of thin air. Trump still has an approval rating over 90% among the GOP.

  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    "Join forces" = they are speaking on the same day of the convention.

    • Owl [he/him]
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      Career politicians speaking on the same day is the same thing as a revolution. Except unlike a revolution it's a good thing, because nobody is going to burn any cop cars.

      -political commentator

    • HarrietTubman [he/him,any]
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      Bernie radicalized plenty of people but he was never going to be the left's gateway into power. Matt Christman do you hear me

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        Bernie radicalized plenty of people

        Which is why entryism into the Democratic Party is still unquestionably good, even though it obviously has its limits. It's way easier to have a real conversation with someone about socialism if you have people forcing the term into mainstream political discourse, and while the PSL is cool and good they've never going to do that.

  • MikeTruk [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I so regret donating to the Sanders campaign.

    Really wish I could reroute it to Lebanon red cross rn

    • RedStarLesbian [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I still get so many radlib emails I have no idea how to unsubscribe from to eternally remind me of my shame.

    • neo [he/him]
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      Bernie lost. He has to play the game on the loser's terms. Defeat sucks.

          • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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            And what type of concession would Biden have been obligated to even attempt to follow through on, anyway? If Biden pinky promised to try and pass M4A, does anyone believe he'd do that? If he tried to do it, do you think he'd be able to push it through?

        • RandomWords [he/him]
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          despite the fact that it had no chance of succeeding, the veil was pulled from the eyes of many people. it had to be demonstrated that despite the largest efforts of the american population to change the system through electoralism, the system itself is rigged. this alone lead to the radicalization of thousands and thousands of people.

          the only people who actually think the primary was legitimate now are extremely gullible people or are nefarious in their will.

          yes, bernie was never going to win, but your money didn't go to waste. this is of course not meant to trivialize that people are in need of monetary help right now, but the idea that it didn't go towards helping the working class materially is not something i'd subscribe to. things take time, but a lot of people are much more informed about how things actually are now. the emperor has no clothes and such.

        • CenkUygurCamp [none/use name]
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          That money wouldn't even have been there without the Bernie campaign, there was and is no central organization

    • Alvierk [he/him]
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      Honestly. I'm in the same boat, living paycheck to paycheck and donated waaay too much to Bernie's campaign. I mean, it's probably not a lot to anyone above the poverty line, but I digress.

    • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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      The old Roman triumph, drag your defeated enemy through Rome to make a spectacle of them before execution.

      CIA definitely is warming up their heart attack gun.

  • AsleepInspector
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    4 years ago

    Hey, Bernie, how does Kasich's condiment-coated chode taste?

    :yes: Yeah, good, okay

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    See this is what has wound me up since Bernie pulled out. I understand that he agreed to support the winner of the primaries. Shitty but I guess he thought it was worth it. Fine, whatever. And he obviously thinks getting Trump out is the single most important thing.

    But when he pulled out, why not just step back and at least say nothing? Why did he immediately need to tell us a load of bull about how oh so wonderful and progressive Biden is? The "Joe's my friend" thing was the same. Maybe he is, just stop telling everyone.

    Why not get your supporters together to put some pressure on him even if it's fairly futile as things are? Why still play the game?

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      If Bernie blows up Biden's campaign -- or if the Democratic establishment can spin it that way -- it becomes much harder to pry Democrats (who don't particularly care about Biden, but badly want him to beat Trump) away from the party and further left. Bernie knew with a loss he was basically a spent political force, and was obviously aware of the Democratic desire to demonize him and sabotage whatever leftist movement can spring up in his wake. If you have no personal political future, and even looking like a sore loser can keep others from accomplishing what you tried to do, you play ball with the establishment candidate. He did this in 2016 and it's a big reason why (despite many attempts) the "Bernie cost Hillary the election" nonsense never stuck.

      • soufatlantasanta [any]
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        Also it allows him to broker trust between the burgeoning left and the old guard of the party, since he's chummy with Joe and Schumer but also people like the Squad, Cori Bush, Jamaal Bowman all adore him and see him as their Gandalf