• hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 年前

    While the lanyard caste of political hacks is generally despicable, there is a real need for people on the left who know how to run a campaign. This is Exhibit A.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 年前

      I said it before in a different thread, but Josh4 had no business running for a US congress seat when he zero experience or infrastructure. The DNC plays for keeps there. But state seats... those actually can be had if you don't have a lot of experience. A state seat, you can just do mailers, yard signs, and meet people, and you'll have a decent shot. I think your point is still 100% correct, I just think Josh's biggest problem was thinking a state rep seat was beneath him or something.

    • Dear_Occupant [he/him]
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      4 年前

      I have a 9-2 record in my past campaigns and I am perfectly willing to teach what I know but I thought we were doing mass line instead of elections campaigns for the Democrats. A lot of the tactics carry over from what I understand.

        • Dear_Occupant [he/him]
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          Okay what I meant was that I learned how to go knock on doors and get people's opinions and how to teach others to do the same. I've turned people with social anxiety into successful canvassers. When I first read about mass line, I had already been doing it to an extent, entirely on my own initiative. I'm not young any more, and now that I've got my head screwed on, I'm not interested in teaching young people how to win elections for the Democrats. My point was that I can take that experience and apply it toward something actually useful, and my expectation was that I would do that under the guidance of people who are better versed in theory than I am.

    • ProfessionalSlacker
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      4 年前

      I can appreciate it because no way was any of that money from actual constituents that he squandered.

    • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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      Is running for office and losing a lucrative grift? What could he have gotten out of it outside of gaming keyboards?

      • femboy [he/him]
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        the gaming keyboard was actually Lee Carter and he's actually good

        • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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          4 年前

          Lee Carter's girlfriend/enbyfriend, but yeah. It was the base to a Surface Book and was cheaper than getting a new laptop.

        • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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          Isn't that money supposed to be accounted for? Is it that easy to steal embezzle campaign donations?

          • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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            No, it's not. People here just want to make shit up to rag on him as a "grifter" rather than just really incompetent.

            • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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              Lol yes it is, wtf are you talking about?

              He used the money to pay "campaign staffers" as wages. That money is in their pockets.

              • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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                Yes, that's how campaigns work. You think it's all volunteer?

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                    Yeah, he had no idea how to run a campaign and thought shitposting on Twitter and reddit would be enough. That doesn't make it a grift.

                    Also if you look at the reports, he did pay Facebook for advertising.

                    Also 70% of $300k divided among four people = $52,500. So shame on them for getting... a decent salary? That's less than I make in a entry-level programming position.

                    • ClearCelesteSky [she/her]
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                      4 年前

                      He had to choose between paying his team livable wages during the pandemic, or buy more ads. He treated them the way he wanted to be treated, which unfortunately was the wrong decision here.

                      It's just sad.

                      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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                        4 年前

                        It was the wrong decision in terms of getting elected. It was the right decision in terms of being a decent person. People can argue if that is an appropriate use of campaign funds, but it's not illegal afaik and not malicious or misleading to his donors imo.

  • KoeRhee [he/him]
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    4 年前

    The title of this post is a joke right? I genuinely can't tell if calling people libs for not participating in electoralism is a joke or not.

    • femboy [he/him]
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      everyone is a liberal except for me. run for office anyway

  • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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    4 年前

    Hey, everybody i know how to fix our country, lets all join the mob and convince them to sell ice cream instead!

  • RadimirLenin [he/him]
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    4 年前

    So did his supporters on social media just not turn out, or are all the people that love him online mostly from outside his state? All jokes aside, a following as big as his should have resulted in more votes than that. This is really weird on top of being embarrassing.

    • HarryLime [any]
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      4 年前

      He didn't buy any mailers or yard signs. He did nothing to campaign for himself inside the district, it was all online.

    • ClearCelesteSky [she/her]
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      He didn't want to lay anyone off during/because of covid, he had to choose between paying them (his unusually decent wages) because he was treating them the way he wanted to be treated. He wasn't comfortable leaving friends/teammates without income just so he could buy ads on facebook.

      He also cited not being cut out for political leadership and said the anxiety/depression he picked up during his run stopped him from making good decisions. He definitely wasn't trying to embezzle but I don't think he was really competent enough in the first place.

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    People in the replies are so fucking gullible. He didn’t “have the courage” to “run” anything. He just took a bunch of money and sat on it!

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      I don't think that's outside the realm of possibility, but it's extremely shitty to smear someone as a grifter with basically zero evidence.

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        No. This is literally what happened. He took all that money and didn't spend any of it on actually getting votes. You can't say it was hard to run a campaign when he didn't run a fucking campaign.

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    4 年前

    waiting to have 35 years so i can be the president of brazil by being like moises but for dumb man