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  • jabrd [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    We need a /c/agitprop that's just a reservoir of memes and image macros to spam on other forums at times like these

  • TossedAccount [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Selecting relevant quotes from "hardcore theory" and presenting them in meme form, however, is a good idea. :lenin-shining:

  • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Of course I wouldn't tell them to read hardcore theory first. I usually recommend they start by learning German first so they can read Das Kapital correctly.

    • DecolonizeCatan [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Also, if they're total noobs, they should probably start with Hegel's The Science of Logic (in German of course) first in order to properly grasp Marx's method before tackling Capital.

      • gammison [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        And really you have to start with Phenomenology of Spirit or else the The Science of Logic will be an incomprehensible mess. Of course then you'll need to read Kant to understand where Hegel is diverging from, and then you'll need.... fuck it never ends.

  • T_Doug [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If you do want to recommend a book, however, Blackshirts and Reds is 🔥

    • 234567890987654 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Don't recommend people books, it's lazy and no one reads books, especially on WSB.

      Recommending a book or a communist economist's works is a shortcut that does nothing but makes us feel like we've done something.

      • T_Doug [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I'm extremely thankful that someone recommended Blackshirts and Reds to me a while back; specifically because reading it did a lot to strengthen my beliefs in Communism by grounding them in a more solid foundation then memes or infotainment videos could possibly offer.

        I think it's similar to how, for a lot of people on this site, reading "Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue" expanded and clarified their understanding of trans liberation in a manner that no amount of memes are able to.

        Plenty of people read books; this community often worries that r/WSB types are reading a lot of the wrong ones (ie: 12 rules for life). Last summer I was able to get a lot of success by recommending books of Black communists, to well-meaning libs in the midst of the BLM uprising.

        • sonartaxlaw [undecided,he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Any recommendations? I remember back then that someone called me out on the whiteness of the literature I was recommending, which was valid but I never really got to the point of addressing it.

    • T_Doug [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      To really introduce yourself to leftism you need to first start with the classics: Aristotle, Descartes, Socrates, Plato, Locke, and Kant. Then you'll have the necessary foundation to tackle Hegel, after which you'll maybe be able to understand Marx.

  • sjonkonnerie [any, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Actually one day when I was walking down the street a hardcover of Das Kapital fell on my head. After I awoke from the coma 7 months later I made an account on this website and started telling people to 'organize!' and to 'read theory!' :marx: all i'm saying is, it's possible.

  • Zo1db3rg [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Memes. Do it with memes. Feed off their anger and hatred of rich people. Guillotines and shit. This is how i got to where i am. r/chapo memed my brain so hard i started actually listening to the theory.

  • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Imma be controversial here, but, bread tube. Olly and stuff. Maybe yugopnik, but he is for the people further down the line. Also podcasts. Behind the bastards , Revolutions etc. And be kind and open and stuff.

    • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Vikki 1999 is a solid channel, her video on the soviet side of the cold war is great

    • Lerios [hy/hym]
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      4 years ago

      Absolutely, thats how a whole lot of us got our starts, lets give these newbies the same, generally more accessible intro that we had. Also, given the sort of humour and such they seem to be into, i can't help but think trueanon (and, as loath as we may be to go back to them, maybe the more jokerfied Chapo segments) would probably be a solid recomendation. Far more solid than just throwing state and rev at them.

      Edit: fuck it, posted the Brace rat rant.

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Agreed. This will be the time when we need the pipeline.

  • PlantsRcoolToo [any]
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    4 years ago

    THIS IS WHAT GRAVEL INSTITUTE VIDEOS ARE FOR

    Seriously if you suggest people read theory you will drive them away. Idc how short or approachable it is. No one wants to be told to go read

  • ComradeTonyGazelle [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I looked quick and didn't see it recommended but Why socialism? By Albert Einstein is an easy short read written by someone people respect and will probably be more open minded to.

    https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/