Death to America

  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The consent manufacturers are tired of not getting credit for their hard work, so they wanted a fucking Time piece about how they rig our perceptions without us noticing. Nice.

    Also I'm 90% sure this is mostly Bernie/primary rigging to make sure the "right guy" won.

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah it's really unbelievable how they're not satisfied with how they rigged things to where they won everything, they have to be self-congratulatory about it and expect a pat on the back from the public. They don't even care how much fucking ammo this might potentially give the right-wing conspiracy CHUDs who genuinely believe the election was rigged against Trump by voter fraud.

      It's like how conservative CHUDs are infuriated that they are hegemonic in terms of political power, but are largely shut out of the cultural mainstream compared to liberals. For liberals, hegemonic cultural influence and finally get a W across the boards in terms of power aren't enough, they need the public to adore them unconditionally for it all as well no matter how bad the subtext might be.

      I'm half-tempted to actually send this article to my CHUD parents who believe the election was fraudulent, but I'm concerned it will do a lot of fucking damage to them.

        • LeninsRage [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Dunno, AFAIK they aren't actually terminally online, they just digest their media exclusively through Fox News and conservative talk radio

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Time is not a terminally online source lol. Fox and Limbaugh or whoever has absolutely already read it and said something about it.

            • LeninsRage [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              What I meant by that is that the most likely way they would have encountered this article organically is by hanging out in QAnon circles, where some CHUDs might have shared this around to confirm their own preconceived conclusions on the election. Luckily, I haven't lost my parents to QAnon. Unfortunately their regard for QAnon is that they think it is a false flag made up by the media to discredit conservatives. They expressed this to me over Christmas, I've yet to ask them how this reconciles with the Capitol riot.

        • thrown_away_dev [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          I already seen this on my fb feed from a chud friend. If he didn't find it himself it was digested and regurgitated by the federalist.

      • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        I’m concerned it will do a lot of fucking damage to them.

        Deja vu here. Also have chuds and have had that feeling more and more recently.

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        They don’t even care how much fucking ammo this might potentially give the right-wing conspiracy CHUDs who genuinely believe the election was rigged against Trump by voter fraud.

        They do. This is the whole reason they wrote the article. They literally want right-wing idiots to think the "left" stole the election or at least that the liberals are trying to destroy the right-wing (and not that they actually support it).

    • dolphinhuffer [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Also I’m 90% sure this is mostly Bernie/primary rigging to make sure the “right guy” won.

      "Cool, I won Iowa! Anyway, I'll just show myself out now. " - :pete:

    • late90smullbowl [they/them]
      cake
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      4 years ago

      Also I’m 90% sure this is mostly Bernie/primary rigging to make sure the “right guy” won.

      That sure was something in Iowa. Bernie's team waiting around for votes to be counted and all that bullshit, playing by the rules like fools. You know, like every other Iowa primary in the past. Biden had already moved onto the next state: "Later suckers, we probably won or something, onwards! Momentum? We're just taking it with us lol"

  • asaharyev [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    They were not rigging the election, they were fortifying it.

    lmao, fucking wut

  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    no you see, its my ball, so if i take it away because the game isnt going well, thats not stealing, its fortifying it against the fragility of the system to ensure the fair and competitive spirit of the game remains!

    :galaxy-brain:

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      It's not conspiracy, it's the fucking USA

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    This totally won't further radicalize people against liberalism in both directions.

      • Mog_Pharou [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        https://ash.harvard.edu/publications/understanding-ccp-resilience-surveying-chinese-public-opinion-through-time If anyone wants some ammo. Its even better cause Harvard clearly hates the CCP and still has to admit the people love them, even as they insert little bits of cope throughout the paper. Just look at those tables. The approval jumps are insane.

        We find that first, since the start of the survey in 2003, Chinese citizen satisfaction with government has increased virtually across the board. From the impact of broad national policies to the conduct of local town officials, Chinese citizens rate the government as more capable and effective than ever before. Interestingly, more marginalized groups in poorer, inland regions are actually comparatively more likely to report increases in satisfaction. Second, the attitudes of Chinese citizens appear to respond (both positively and negatively) to real changes in their material well-being, which suggests that sup-port could be undermined by the twin challenges of declining economic growth and a deteriorating natural environment. While the CCP is seemingly under no imminent threat of popular upheaval, it cannot take the support of its people for granted. Although state censorship and propaganda are widespread, our survey reveals that citizen perceptions of governmental performance respond most to real, measurable changes in individuals’ material well-being. For government leaders, this is a double-edged sword, as citizens who have grown accustomed to increases in living standards will expect such improvements to continue, and citizens who praise government officials for effective policies may indeed blame them when such policy failures affect them or their family members directly. While our survey reinforces narratives of CCP resilience, our data also point to specific areas in which citizen satisfaction could decline in today’s era of slowing economic growth and continued environmental degradation.

        "The people love the government because they materially help them, but this is a double edged sword because they might not like the government if they stop materially helping them" :soviet-hmm:

        • MagisterSinister [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          It's as if they are implying (actually almost stating outright) that western governments are in a more comfortable position because they do not give a shit about their citizens, give them nothing and rule entirely through cultural hegemony, armored with force. As if their thesis is Macchiavelli and their antithesis is Gramsci and they look at the synthesis and say "this, but unironically."

        • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Looking back, I feel like an idiot for editing school papers and second guessing the pure drivel I would type to take up space. If somebody on an actual payroll can write this out and hit submit with confidence . . . I should have been able to write literally fucking anything

  • Importantguy123 [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    From the article

    For nearly a quarter-century, Podhorzer, senior adviser to the president of the AFL-CIO, the nation’s largest union federation, has marshaled the latest tactics and data to help its favored candidates win elections. Unassuming and professorial, he isn’t the sort of hair-gelled “political strategist” who shows up on cable news. Among Democratic insiders, he’s known as the wizard behind some of the biggest advances in political technology in recent decades. A group of liberal strategists he brought together in the early 2000s led to the creation of the Analyst Institute, a secretive firm that applies scientific methods to political campaigns. He was also involved in the founding of Catalist, the flagship progressive data company.

    Lmao, because fucking of course this country's completely cucked unions played an integral roll in scaring their members/radicals outside union into pulling the lever for Biden, this time they even made their own Shadow Inc. start up to do it.

    Sicko mode: engaged

  • MagisterSinister [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    the public needs to understand the system's fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures

    AHAHAHA WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY :LIB:

    IF THE PUBLIC WOULD UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM'S FRAGILITY THEY'D BURN IT ALL DOWN YOU NAIVE PMC SHITHEAD

    YOU BOOTLICKING FOOL YOU ABSOLUTE MARBLE BRAIN :jokah-messy: :jokah: :joker-dancing:

      • MagisterSinister [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Professional Managerial Class; PMCs are well-off, highly educated functional elites, but usually do not own significant capital themselves. They're the aspirational 15% propping up the 1%. They uphold capitalism not because they're on top, but because they're close enough and think they or their kids could be on top one day.

  • AllCatsAreBeautiful [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It's obviously the case that our electoral process is a fucking sham, but this quote is taken way out of context by the tweet. Focusing on overt gestures towards the ruling class' control helps no one because, as this quote shows, the media can display your knowledge as "a paranoid fever dream." The shit that's way worse is the actual details the article gives, like how Mark Zuckerberg's charity pumped 300 million dollars into the financing the election because the government couldn't pay for it themselves. That's ~40% of the additional funding.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      The only thing liberals acchieve is radicalizing people, one way or the other.

  • TankieDukakis [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    In North Korea, elections are "fortified."

    Daily reminder JFK literally stole an election. To be fair, Nixon was also trying to steal it, but JFK did it better.

    • Importantguy123 [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Daily reminder JFK literally stole an election. To be fair, Nixon was also trying to steal it, but JFK did it better.

      Out of the loop, definitely gonna need the read pill on this

      • LeninsRage [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I don't think there's actual proof for it, but there's an understanding that because Kennedy won Illinois by less than 1%, which decided the election, it was almost certainly stolen by the infamously corrupt Daley machine and the union foot soldiers

      • TankieDukakis [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2000/11/17/another-race-to-the-finish/c810a41c-7da9-461a-927b-9da6d36a65dc/

    • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Daily reminder JFK literally stole an election.

      Source? It's not the first time I've heard that claim in left circles.

      • TankieDukakis [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2000/11/17/another-race-to-the-finish/c810a41c-7da9-461a-927b-9da6d36a65dc/

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    As much as "this is Orwellian" is overused, finishing off that paragraph with how control by the elite is necessary to ensure democracy endures is really Orwellian.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    This is how literally every President gets elected in a bourgeois democracy.

  • KamalaHarris [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Ah, nothing like a nice, fortified election in my snifter after a long day of not rigging elections.

  • Not_irony [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    look, America and the ruling class know how to run a country. people outside the ruling class don't, otherwise they would also be ruling class. get it? protecting the ruling class from someone not in the ruling class is the whole point of having a ruling class. use yours brains geesh