This is bad folks. This will end warrants as they currently exist.

  • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Is this the same Biden that thinks it’s an overreach to bypass the parliamentarian?

    I guess we can shirk the process as long as it’s to impose more cruelty on the working class.

    • Malikto [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      This is going to be used to disarm the MAGA chuds so they don't pose a risk to the Republic any more. If some of them resist and get shot, so much the better. If they declare the government is tyrannical for trying to take their guns and attempt an armed rebellion, it's an excellent chance to take them all out at once. Just think of all the nice things we can have without them in the way.

        • Malikto [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          I dunno, the US government is terrified of an armed revolt. The first thing any tyranny does is disarm the people. The MAGA chuds are going to resist, and the government is going to crush them like a bug. Imagine a life where they are no longer a going issue and have zero political power. It's a better world.

            • Malikto [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Nope, Biden is kicking them out of the military as we speak. Warning of a sudden new threat of "extremism" from the right, the Pentagon is indoctrinating military service members in a program packed with progressive ideology.

              • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                Damn, that might work on the Pentagon nerds, but it isn't going to do shit for the already existing white supremacists within the police force and the military apparatus.

                • Malikto [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  Give the Biden administration six months and the rank and file of the US military will be purged. The tears will be delicious as they get discharged for disloyalty.

          • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Some poor whites and militia adjacent folks perhaps. Something tells me no one is going to be kicking down the doors of that St Louis mansion couple.

        • Malikto [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          How? The left aren't gun nuts. It's the right that are a threat to the US government, precisely because they do have guns. And when they get organized, they can be terrifyingly effective. The trains running to the camps ran on time.

          • read_freire [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Under no pretext, except that one pretext where our right wing police state is going to use increased police power to target its ideologically aligned paramilitaries and not the targets of its oppression for some reason

      • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I don’t know why we’d expect the police to all of a sudden stop disproportionately targeting black people.

        And it doesn’t get as much publicity, but organizers are targeted a lot as well.

        We saw how much the proud boys and Capitol rioters got preferential treatment despite actually being violent, so I wouldn’t count on this extension of power to be used primarily against them.

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Abolish the police :geordi-no:

    Let the police forcibly take people's guns away :geordi-yes:

    No way this doesn't backfire and primarily effect POC, no sir.

    • notthenameiwant [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Honestly I just don't want police having free reign to fuck with me as long as they have access to an unregistered gun.

    • asaharyev [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It's not a backfire if that's how they intend it to be used in the first place....but then hide behind anti-terrorism.

  • Eldungeon [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Civil forfeiture should be illegal. This is pretty much a way to profile whoever cops want and take their wealth away.

    • Homestar440 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Edit: This definitely won't be used to exonerate some cop killing somebody in their own home by insisting that they had a gun somewhere

        • Homestar440 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I can see that, sometimes my cynicism outweighs my sensitivity. Hopefully that's better

      • Jew [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Didn't they already do that to Atatiana Jefferson, the woman who was murdered in her own home in Fort Worth for leaving her door open?

  • mittens [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    sorry for breaking in, beating you up, shooting you three times in the leg, and then shooting your dog a couple dozen of times, but your house smelled like gun.

    oh well, pobody's nerfect, as they say.

    • notthenameiwant [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Don't you dare charge me BTW. Bad things will happen!

      Burn down police stations when you are approriately cloaked and things are apt.

    • Abraxiel
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      4 years ago

      A correction: he initially refused the psych evaluation, but relented after the cops lied and said they wouldn't take his guns. Then the cops told his wife he'd consented to their seizure and she led them to his others in addition to the pistol.

    • Quimby [any, any]
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      4 years ago

      We have long lived in a police state. Any limits on police power are illusory and exist only because they haven't yet been tested. The courts have consistently upheld the absolute authority of the police to do anything without consequence.

      Edit: To elaborate just a bit more, if they can literally send a robot to bomb your house for no reason, without consequence, why tf would anyone think they would draw the line at taking your guns?

    • RedundantClam [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Oh yeah, I mean getting a warrant is well and good, but what if there's an safety or health concern? Surely our highly trained police forces posses the judgment necessary to only bypass due process when absolutely necessary. It's not like cops will just take the terms you say they need and tailor their reports accordingly when they take your shit. That's never happened before.

    • TrumanShow_IRL [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      “community caretaking”

      when you hear libs talk about "community" you should add "whites only" or "gated"

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    4 years ago

    Let Cops Enter Homes And Seize Guns Without A Warrant

    i'm sure theres no horrific ulterior motive for this, or any way that it could be misused :)

    • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Absolutely!!! No one will ever misuse this power while a good Democrat is in office! And also, good thing El Cheeto lost in 2020 and there's no possible way at all, whatsoever, of any means, that someone who might misuse this power could be elected, Team Blue has the White House on lock :))))))

      • Multihedra [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Well said.

        When it comes to matters pertaining police, we all know that politicians rule over the police, and not the other way around!

  • Sacred_Excrement [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Small chance this gets thru the court as it is currently structured (too many conservatives who would doubtlessly not let a liberal president have a victory even if it wasn't just a front for gun confiscation). Bad omen going forward though.

    Justice Department argued that warrants should not be “presumptively required when a government official’s action is objectively grounded in a non-investigatory public interest, such as health or safety.”

    I'm sure that would never be manipulated at all, it's not like the article says, just 2 paragraphs prior, that

    In jurisdictions that have extended the community caretaking exception to homes, “everything from loud music to leaky pipes have been used to justify warrantless invasion of the home.”

    Fucking reactionaries, anything to avoid addressing the material conditions underlying every fucking mass shooting. This should be a bit more concerning vis a vis guns.

  • Yanqui_UXO [any]
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    4 years ago

    Siding with law enforcement, the First Circuit noted that a police officer “must act as a master of all emergencies, who is ‘expected to...provide an infinite variety of services to preserve and protect community safety.’”

    Pain. Just pain.