Iron Man invented a way to create free green energy. And instead of sharing it with the world, he kept it for himself and used it to build weapons, which he used to personally intervene in foreign countries's conflicts. Yes this is the "good guy".
Also, "One world, one people" isn't even that radical of an idea. It just means we're all human beings.
Yeah, like I’m amazed, even in capitalist paradigm, the arc reactor would rip the oil sector, cars, mobile tech and energy grid sectors, it’s literally 100 trillions dollar shit. Instead we get biggest brain “we’ll sell armored suits to the government”, which will pay at best 100 billions a year.
The first Iron Man covered this in the most cynical way. Jeff Bridges says something like "the arc reactor was a PR stunt, it was never going to reach profitability." So the in universe explanation is perfectly reasonable; if the materials for an arc reactor are prohibitively expensive capitalists would never choose to develop this technology. The profit incentive simply is not there for providing "free" energy.
Now that I have a smarterbrain™, I can no longer consume this media :( I was watching it and was like damn this is like blatant propaganda
Does anybody still have like a link to a clipped version of this? It disappeared off Youtube and now I can't even find it on the more esoteric video sites
Just like suspension of disbelief, you have to suspend ideology (schniff) to watch it. If you can accept a man in a big metal suit made of nanobots flying around using hand sized thrusters, you can accept that he's the good guy™ for the purposes of the story.
I feel like either I've gotten a better nose for it, or it's gotten more blatant, probably both, but even in a state of disbelief it's not realistic
“Hey audience! See these tough-looking guys who want to make the world a better place? These weirdos are the villains! We’ll make them shoot a puppy every once in a while to remind you!
Watch the masked defenders of the status quo you all know and love beat the ever-loving snot out of them while making incessantly snarky quips every other minute! Witness the birth of the scene(s) that will become the next uninspired meme spammed on Reddit! Watch the after-credits scene get overanalyzed to pieces by some YouTube rando! Buy tickets now!”
I’m a sucker for comic movies and shit. Always have been since I got into comics. Yeah I love seeing characters I read and imagined in my head brought to life and they are fine for stupid dumb entertainment. Since I became a commie I can hardly watch some stuff now at all. I’m not surprised they did that to the “villains” of the show.
Yet in the black widow movie they had red guardian who literally had Karl Marx tattooed across his knuckles.
I actually find watching most movies and shows entertaining cause I'll start deconstructing its ideology. And for all its propaganda the shows can be funny sometimes. But there's a lot of "blink and you'll miss it" grossness throughout.
For this reason, I've been meaning to do a full essay on the first Iron Man and it's not-so-subtle justification for neolibalism. An entertaining movie I still love, but it has some insidious assumptions to justify the characters existence in universe.
Your comment made me think that movie was already out, I do want to watch it just to see what they do with that character
do kids even watch these shows? a lot of gen z is too young to remember when Avengers is in theatres, i doubt they care about these extra shows exploring side characters. My guess is kids watch the mainline movies but would prefer YouTube/TikTok over binging a superhero drama. Its a little sad to think about, but the target audience probably is adults in their mid 20s-30s. My workplace consists mostly of 18-30 year olds and only the older guys mention Marvel stuff
actually, now that i think about it, half the plot of the ant man film was about Paul Rudd trying to win the love of his daughter after his wife remarried, a lot of capeshit is targeted to grown ass adults now
one of my assistant supervisors (not actual job title, but vaguely accurate) lives a pretty sad life. Has trouble making friends, not very good at his job (worked 7 years or so to get to a position that his peers got to in 1-3), can't stand up to his boss, and he treats anything that happens to him like the end of the world. And he's the biggest Marvel fan. As far as I'm concerned, he's the exact target demographic of these shows, and I swear that talking about capeshit is the only thing that brings him joy
It really annoys me when the villains are obviously right so the writers have to make their ideology incoherent. Like, these people want a unified world and an end to corruption, but they're also mad that half the world came back and got help? Like that makes no fucking sense. They think the world was better when half the population was gone for no reason at all.
It's just a lazy thing writers do when they don't want to realise that defending the status quo isn't necessarily a good thing
they’re also mad that half the world came back and got help? Like that makes no fucking sense
We've (deliberately) not been given the whole manifesto of what Flag Smashers actually believe, the show has been dancing around it the whole time. From what little we've heard from them, it sounds like aid/supplies that were going to the poor during the Blip are now going back to the half of the rich who came back? But, again, it's frustratingly unclear.
they’re also mad that half the world came back and got help
Actually, I can see the plot twist coming that the world came back and most countries were not set up to deal with the sudden influx. They were specifically robbing vaccines to take to a refugee camp. So they are gonna do the common "The initial bad guys were good, but they went about the wrong way or stole from the wrong people" trope.
I didn't want to bring it up because I mention it too much but yes Zaheer was completely right so the writers just made him go crazy
Zaheer was not right because of exactly one sentence. He says his anarchism is about "one man just taking care of his and his own" and rejects and sort of collectivism or communalism. His actions and rhetoric were mostly pretty cool (outside of attacking Korra), but his ideology was shit. I legitimately doubt the writers know enough about Anarachism to think it's anything more than "burn down gubbment" because most Americans think that. Disney is so much more insidious because it's very clear they know they are coopting Antifa/Anarchist ideology for the flag smashers, but are choosing to make equal redistribution seem "evil."
having watched the second episode (but not the first), it seems like they're trying to do the old 'the bad guys are actually good' thing and make the new captain america then out to be bad. they had him randomly say an evil-sounding line and then played ominous music behind it, and based on the laziness of writing a tv show I'm assuming he's probably going to turn out to be the villain. also they showed the 'villains' just stealing medicine and vaccines to redistribute them to people who need it, and I can't imagine a company willingly putting out a 'vaccine distribution bad' message during a pandemic without trying to have some level of dumb nuance.
I can’t imagine a company willingly putting out a ‘vaccine distribution bad’ message during a pandemic without trying to have some level of dumb nuance.
I totally can.
The nuance is gonna be the heroes lecturing the Antifa Supersoldiers into "legitimately" giving medicine to the community by forming a pharmaceutical company with a woman CEO
And reminding them to :vote:
Ok I haven't even watched this show but i'm pretty sure the edgy flag smasher types aren't the real villains of the show, US Agent aka new cracker cap or his sidekick probably are. With that said relax and hail hydra.
They'll turn out to be the good guys actually - just a bit too idealistic/utopian and then they'll find a 'pragmatic middle-ground' that won't really change anything but somehow satisfy everyone.
Haven't seen the show, just my prognosis from reading a few comments
Be prepared for disappointment. Disney's MO is shoving everything in there they can. They've done two villains before they'll do it again.
without me having to watch a marvel tv show what are we talking about
MCU Falcon and Winter Soldier started with some bad guys called the "flag smashers".
Never been happier to be completely out of touch with popular culture. I cant remember the last movie I watched. Just watching hours of youtube videos about aquarium fish
