Ending footbindings? Who cares. He cracked an off color joke that may have actually been a dig at Kissinger.

https://nitter.net/moonlit_misfit/status/1730394235172512244

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 months ago

    See, when he said "women hold up half the sky" he meant that quite literally, China has a giant pile of women that reaches up into the heavens. It's a serious problem.

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    If anyone is wondering about what's going on with some of the replies, there was a massively influential biography titled "The Private Life of Chairman Mao" that depicted Mao as basically a Genghis Khan level sexual predator and sold very well in the anglosphere. That it wound up being completely discredited as a sensationalist fabrication even by American neoliberal historians is of no consequence to its legacy among internet reactionaries.

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      7 months ago

      I looked the author of that, expecting Montefiore since it's right his methods, and while it's surprisingly not Montefiore (i guess not enough pedophilia accussations for him), but dude named Li Zhisui, even his wiki is pretty much telling:

      After emigrating to the United States, he wrote a biography of Mao entitled The Private Life of Chairman Mao, in which he described Mao as selfish, cruel, having a craving for young women, and poor personal hygiene.

      After emigrating to the United States

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      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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        7 months ago

        I looked the author of that, expecting Montefiore since it's right his methods,

        It would've been incredibly funny if Semenbag Monsanto concidered himself a "China expert" alongside being a "Russia expert", but I suppose he didn't want to be completely discredited among actual historians as a sensationalist quack fanfiction writer

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        7 months ago

        The "and he smelled bad" at the end torpedoed whatever credibility he may have had.

  • Edamamebean [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    I fucking hate these "leftists" who have nothing better to do than post and post and post whatever they can to sow division over a few words from a man who died half a fucking century ago. Could not be more useless and counterproductive if they were trying, and I'm sure many of them are. fedposting

    • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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      7 months ago

      Why do their inter-left complaints literally always outnumber their posts about actual activism? Like every time, without fail.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        7 months ago

        Because actual leftism means they have to do something. They should start hitting the gym so they can actually hold their own against the Proud Boys.

        • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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          7 months ago

          They should start hitting the gym so they can actually hold their own against the Proud Boys.

          The fact that they've made this into a genuine controversy and found reasons to be offended by it proves just how psyopped they are. Otherwise they'd quite literally just shut up and do this.

            • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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              7 months ago

              Have met some who actually told me fitness culture is fascist. I remember only being able to stare at them in disbelief because I couldn't think of a single response to something so stupid.

              • TheDialectic [none/use name]
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                7 months ago

                No, they had a point. Fitness culture is sus. Fitness isn't. However the mainstream American Fitness culture has big white supremacy vibes.

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                7 months ago

                I could see where they're coming from regarding fitness culture but throwing the baby out with the bathwater is another thing. Being fit isn't fascism.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    Definitely reads as a dig at Kissinger, the kind of dig you make when a person's sexual escapades are an open "secret". Gossip gets around.

    The "they will create disasters" part is definitely boomer "hurr hurr wahmens" though, common attitudes and jokes of the 50s that were simply not examined for being the problems that they were. Doesn't take away from the fact he was progressive on their liberation, progressive on their inclusion in the workforce equally, etc etc. Well ahead of capitalists of his time just as we today are well ahead of capitalists of our time but very likely not without our issues or blindspots that future leftists will criticise.

  • CrispyFern [fae/faer, any]
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    7 months ago

    Even if he was some horrible misogynist, that's not why people look up to him and study his writings. There isn't a guy out there thats like, "idk about all this communism stuff, but he certainty had the right idea about women grillman ".

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      new type of guy spawned of the lathe.

      Maoist but only because they have all the social views of a 1960s Chinese peasant

  • ReadFanon [any, any]
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    7 months ago

    [CW: SA]

    These terminally-online anarchists always wring their hands over this sort of stuff and yet when you confront them with the fact that a clique of military officers formed around Makhno and they had a penchant for drunken gang rape, they'll either tell you that it's Bolshevik propaganda (how the chairman of the Makhnovist Military Revolutionary Council was a Bolshevik propagadist never gets explained, nor do they seem to know the source of this info despite being able to make wild claims about the info itself) or they'll tell you that they also denounce what happened.

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    ["The Council" here referring to the Military Revolutionary Council, the administrative apparatus of Makhnovia which the military was (ostensibly) accountable to and bound by]

    If you ask them when was the last time they denounced Makhno's rapey tendencies or when they last caused called someone out for touting the Makhnovist flag, suddenly and without announcement the discussion always seems to cease.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Honestly you don't even need to go that far to make Makhnovists look like a piece of shit. My favorite is to use material admitted by even his most sympathetic apologists biographers and then get accused of repeating Bolshevik lies.

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    Desperate to learn the 1960s Chinese equivalents of "dames" "broads" etc.

    • shreddingitlater [he/him, comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      小姐, something every student of Chinese learns early on, is still commonly used, though it can have very offensive implications in informal circumstances. I think that's sort of related.