Jeff Bezos, hours after flying his rocket company's rocket into space: we need to send everything to space in rockets.
YOU CAN'T JUST DUMP POLLUTION IN SPACE
SPACE ISN'T A FUCKING GARBAGE CAN
It is easy. Launch thousands of rockets to build a factory in orbit, launch tens of thousands more to constantly supply it with raw materials, then return the finished goods back to Earth. BOOM, you just solved pollution and climate change.
The Kessler syndrome (also called the Kessler effect,[1][2] collisional cascading, or ablation cascade), proposed by NASA scientist Donald J. Kessler in 1978, is a theoretical scenario in which the density of objects in low Earth orbit (LEO) due to space pollution is high enough that collisions between objects could cause a cascade in which each collision generates space debris that increases the likelihood of further collisions.[3] One implication is that the distribution of debris in orbit could render space activities and the use of satellites in specific orbital ranges difficult for many generations.[3]
Lol capitalists slowly siphoning all prescious resources on earth and blasting them into an endless void is way too apt a metaphor for it not happen
Yeah if capitalism doesn't fall invest in companies that dig through landfills finding salvageable material. Also that dig through cities that flooded near the ocean. Each house will have a non insignificant amount of copper, even if underwater.
It's cheaper to toss out garbage into the endless void than deorbit it in to the sun. Also more poetic or something. Send it out towards the nearest stars as modern Voyager records.
It's very poetic to send out trash heaps to randomly slam into unknown star systems centuries to millennia from now with the kinetic energy of a large nuclear bomb.
Perfect set up to a near-future sci fi movie where the alien invasion is just a retaliatory attack.
I like to think we could do some close flybys of exoplanets with it. Give some alien astronomers an 'Oumuamua to have headaches over.
mfw my alien civilisation is yeeted out of existence by a rejected batch of paw patrol merch
yes -- you'll need a lot better rockets than you can get from Bezos or Musk
Ah yes, we should just send all the heavy things into space using extremely energy-intense transportation fueled by combustion. That will fix polution right up.
If we can lift off a billionaire, we can lift off Earth's industrial infrastructure
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Nooo we don't need to use rockets! We can just use electromagnetic launch loops that are 80 kilometers tall and 2,000 kilometers long, or build a tower that goes all the way into space and is supported by an equally tall particle accelerator, or build an extremely vulnerable space elevator out of unobtainium, or simply build two tethers that dangle off of a 36,000 kilometer long superconducting cable rotating at 8km/s in low-Earth orbit! I mean, capitalism is famous for investing in capital-intensive long-term endeavors, right? It's not like the state always has to take on projects costing tens of billions of dollars let alone the trillions necessary for this scale, right?
The launch loop doesn't have to go all the way into space.
Why not build a really fast maglev up mt Chimborazo and use it to fling a rocket with some ablative tiles fast enough that you can use a much smaller rocket with less fuel?
And then use similarly energy intense transportation to ship it back down.
I mean, shipping it down can be done with very little energy if you're willing to wait awhile and use solar-electric propulsion.
maybe it could be somehow possible to have huge flexible plastic tubes connected to smokestacks, which funnel all factory pollution directly into outer space?
the atmosphere is only 300 miles thick
maybe somehow anchor it to a really cheap satellite that orbits exactly at the same rate as earth
but if it fell down it'd probably destroy a city so maybe not good
That's just a space elevator. Unfortunately, a 32,000km tether requires semi-unobtainium (A monomolecular carbon nanotube just about does the job, but also it needs to be a giant braid of single 32,000km molecules with no defects)
it's not the same thing as a space elevator though, because it wouldn't need to move any loads. Just passively diffuse out gas. I'm sure there are plenty of reasons why it wouldn't work yes
why would it need to be 32000 km? only 400 km would be enough to get the co2 to directly enter outer space
The main issue I see is the weight of the tubing, it would need to be anchored to a satellite with some kind of energy reserve that allows it to indefinitely support the tube's weight
Gas has mass. The density differential of gases heavier than oxygen can't overcome gravity. You have to lift it, so you have an elevator.
It actually needs to be longer than 32000km if you want it to be geostationary because it needs a counterweight so the tension on the cable is equal at GEO. Yes you can vent the gas at LEO (though it will eventually come back down in a decade or so at that altitude)
Light particles like helium can escape from the edge of the atmosphere. CO2 is ~11 times heavier, so you have to pump it well above the atmosphere for its orbit to have a chance of carrying it away, or else it will just fall right back down. It's probably not that difficult to maintain the pressure on the ground to keep it flowing, but the problem is you now need 1000's of km of a rigid pressure vessel, instead of a thin film or something.
Some people legitimately believe this guy is the smartest person ever
I remember some years ago my sister and brother in law were out to visit.
Brother talks about how Bezos saw how inefficient and ineffective healthcare was in this country, and came up with his own for his workers because he believed he could do it better.
My sister was also fawning over him, and this discussion happening after a few drinks was opened up enough to just say "I love him."
I was speechless, but it is a perfectly capitalist situation- government does thing bad, so it should be privatized and done by our genius job creators.
Icing on the cake- I've actually worked at Amazon, they haven't. I lasted 5 weeks lol. Also no healthcare.
When I saw how far my billions could get me from the poors, I thought 'Why don't we do that with the means of production?'
Once your net worth has a certain amount of zeroes at the end, any stupid shit you say is just part of your "vision"
The subtext is exiling all the workers and poors up to space with the industry, whether he consciously thinks it or not.
good thing this space pollution would definitly not move in orbit and hit all thiese Nice new Space Heavy Industry that gets their Workforce and Supplies up there how exactly ? ...
Fun fact! NASA was working a module for the ISS in the early 2000's called a laser broom. It would have automatically tracked via radar, and shot lasers at, small debris to help deorbit them quicker. There were several working prototypes, but it was cancelled at 70% completion.
Good thing that's not about to be a problem.
Chances are the workforce would he underpaid labourers, because the employer now has leverage of controlling the workers access to air and to a way off the job site. Automation is hard, cutting off the air supply is easy.
Okay sir let me build the infrastructure to do all that real quick on a planet rapidly dying from climate change.
We can just ship the industry to Mars and then all the CO2 will make an atmosphere for Earth 2.0. :melon-musk:
"We need to peepee poopoo because cum cummies"
Just face the wall, Bezos.
