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  • dead [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    The art on the album cover is a painting called Landscape With Graves by Caspar David Friedrich, a famous German painter who was beloved by Nazis.

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caspar_David_Friedrich_-_Landscape_with_Graves,_c.1835-1837-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

    You've probably seen this painting before by the same guy. I've seen a lot of twitter Nazis using this painting.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderer_above_the_Sea_of_Fog#/media/File:Caspar_David_Friedrich_-_Wanderer_above_the_Sea_of_Fog.jpeg

    The alternative album cover that he released was a Reichsadler, double-headed eagle crest.

    Kanye held a concert on December 11 in Miami. He performed on stage in black-colored Klansman robe. There was at least a few right-wing grifters (Adin Ross, Sneako, etc) in the crowd.

    He's announced that his new album is being released on this Friday. The pre-order is already on iTunes. I'm not sure if it actually will be release on Friday, he has a tendency to delay releases.

    From what I have observed, Kanye is still being antisemitic. Baked Alaska posted a photo of them together on December 10. It is very likely that the album will be antisemitic and contain far-right messaging.

    I'm worried that the album will be received positively by the hip hop community. If Kanye becomes popular again, it could normalize his cryptic love for Hitler.

    • oktherebuddy
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      10 months ago

      god damnit learning that fuckin mountaineering painting guy is beloved by nazis

      edit: although he died a century before the nazis were even around so it seems okay to like him

    • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      If Kanye becomes popular again, it could normalize his cryptic love for Hitler.

      this would track with the current efforts in the West to rehabilitate the Nazis in culture.

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        The West is currently trying to claim that everyone except nazis are antisemitic. Truly the Goebbelsian Big Lie of our era.

    • SeducingCamel [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      As a former Kanye fanatic I'm very confident he isn't dropping a damn thing on Friday

    • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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      10 months ago

      Wanderer above the sea of fog is such a famous painting it's typically used as a literal textbook example of the romanticist movement. As in it is in children's textbooks. It's as much of a fascist dogwhistle as Michelangelos David is. Kanye is a fascist independent of this

      • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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        10 months ago

        Context, no? One, it’s not wanderer, it’s a different more obscure work, two, in an art textbook vs on a Hitler Fan’s album cover obv have distinct connotations

        • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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          10 months ago

          The accusation here is that the painting is one made by the same artist as one popular with nazis (Wanderer above the sea of fog). But that painting is just fucking popular. It's like THE painting for when you need to show Romantic art. The actual context is what I'm pointing out and why the point is silly.

      • dead [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        I described something that was my own personal experience. I did not say that every person who references the artist is white supremacist. Kanye went on Alex Jones and said that he likes Hitler on the show. If you're still defending Kanye at this point, then you need help.

        The dude said "I’m going death con 3 On JEWISH PEOPLE." Kanye went on Tucker Carlson and was so antisemitic that Tucker Carlson edited the interview to make Kanye seem less antisemitic. Kanye went on Alex Jones's show after the Tucker Carlson interview because he believed that Tucker censored him.

        The guy who says "I like Hitler", creates an album cover by with a painting by German Artist who is known for promoting German Nationalism during his life and whose artwork was used by Nazis to promote Blood and Soil after his death. It must be a coincidence. The guy who likes Hitler is using imagery previously used to promote German Nationalism. What a coincidence.

          • dead [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            My post is meant to provide evidence that Kanye has not changed his political views. This may be obvious to you but there are a lot of people currently on reddit and twitter who are saying that Kanye is not antisemitic and trying to rehabilitate his image. It may be obvious to you, then my post is not for you. Not everything is for you.

            I also said that Kanye was spotted on December 10 spending time with Baked Alaska, a known white supremacist who livestreamed at the January 6 insurrection. Also today, Sneako, a far-right internet video creator, who was banned from youtube for threatening to sexually assault a woman, released a video saying that he is now employed by Kanye. Sneako has been employed by Kanye in the past as well.

            For the record. I also criticized Kanye on Hexbear when he was doing White Lives Matters things and meeting with Candace Owens.

              • dead [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                You are arguing in bad faith. You have other posts in the thread saying that you want to continue listening to Kanye and you don't care that he's a Nazi. You're just saying this to because you don't want people to think he's a Nazi so you can keep listening to him.

                The final cover art was revealed on December 12, 2023, by Ty Dolla Sign in an Instagram post.[33] Writing for HipHopDX, Sam Moore described the cover as being "linked to Nazism", noting Friedrich's status as a favorite artist of Adolf Hitler; Moore further observed that the cover's typography was reminiscent of that used by Burzum, a black metal band founded by the neo-Nazi Varg Vikernes.[29] The Burzum comparison and Hitler's adoration of Friedrich was also reported on by The Guardian and The Independent.[30][34]

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vultures_(Kanye_West_and_Ty_Dolla_Sign_album)#Cover_art

                It's not something that I made up or inferred myself. It was reported by multiple news outlets. Sometimes the curtains are not just blue.

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    alright kanye bootlickers, come on out and defend this one

    you know who you are

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      10 months ago

      Kanye stans are up there with Rogan and Musk stans. They’ll claim to “separate the art from the artist” but are obsessed with his life and music and clothes. They don’t care about anything except themselves. The ones online are also extremely funny.

      They believe that Kanye, a billionaire, is being targeted by “them” (the Jews, SJWs, the government, the Illuminati) because he “speaks the truth.” They essentially believe in his unmedicated paranoid delusions and believe he’s sacrificing himself for them lol. Essentially Trump but if he was a rapper

      The wannabe Christians are especially funny. They’ll say some shit like “thank you Kanye for introducing me to the Lord, our Heavenly Father, and promoting peace and love on His kingdom on earth” as he’s rapping about having threesomes and complaining about record labels

      • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        They believe that Kanye, a billionaire, is being targeted by “them” (the Jews, SJWs, the government, the Illuminati) because he “speaks the truth.”

        I can confirm he is targeted. We have our eye on him. illuminati

      • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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        10 months ago

        Rogan's hardly up there with Musk and Kanye.

        Rogan's just an irresponsible moron who otherwise is an expert in combat sports knowledge, gets a lot of interesting guests, and is good at conversation based interviews. He's libertarian in a fairly authentic way - I'd rather talk to him about leftism than most 'libertarians'. He showed his ass during COVID but so did a lot of people.

        Elon has no charisma, isn't an expert in any of his fields, and reeks of desperation. He's also got some pretty literal nazi leanings. Just a total weird freak.

        Kanye's an expert in his field as a popular music artist but hasn't done anything in a while, seems to be in a state of functioning psychosis, and is now an out and out nazi.

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Check the kanye sub top post is "were so fucking back" with this picture.

      Also calling everybody who thought it was bad that kanye performed in a black kkk rode a stupid child because they apparently forgot about the song black skinhead. Ignoring the fact they apparently forgot he's dressed up in a black hoodie/mask and talk about how much he loves Hitler and how the jews are censoring him.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        10 months ago

        i actually meant the ones here but that sounds like an especially terrible time so nyet nooo thank you

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          Wish I had your forethought and judgement

          • Kuori [she/her]
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            10 months ago

            i want you to know that this is the funniest thing anyone has ever said to me

            but also i'm sorry you had to see all that

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        10 months ago

        You should go look at the sub GoodAssSub. The top posts are just seething about Anthony fandango because of a review that came out a decade ago lol

    • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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      10 months ago

      I'm just glad my racist refusal to take hip-hop seriously has kept any of ya'll from thinking I'm a racist for liking Kanye.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    Lmao at this point he's like "No guys seriously, I am the world's biggest nazi, what do I have to do to show you that I am a huge racist actually?"

    • Dalek
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      10 months ago

      And the anti-flambouyant views when they're wearing fucking make-up and leather.

      • windowlicker [she/her]
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        10 months ago

        those motherfuckers will grow long hair, dress extremely gender neutral, and put on a full face of makeup and then go online to cry about "traditional western gender roles!!!". like come on.

  • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    10 months ago

    michael-laugh

    He's awful but every time Varg comes up here it tickles me because it takes me back to high school where I was first regaled with tales of his misadventures by metalhead friends

    Also, this might just be a Northern Europe thing but I feel like I regularly see people in Burzum t-shirts

    • Azarova [they/them]
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      10 months ago

      my favorite varg story is when he earnestly posted on twitter that fascists should start posting pictures of the dicks ("but not in a gay way!!!") so they could see if people were circumsized or not

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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      10 months ago

      Varg is hilarious because of the juxtaposition of him being a nazi and convicted murderer, while on the other hand he's a huge terminally-online dork who LARPS as a medieval peasant and creates shitty TTRPGs.

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Laughing at Varg's antics is an evergreen source of comedy material. It's kinda like watching an animal growl at its reflection in the mirror.

    • Dalek
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      10 months ago

      Guy at work is from two Caribbean parents who settled in the 80s. Have seen him wearing the shirt. Very weird. Always wondered if he does for the shits and giggles of winding up the racists? I dont really know him so feel really selfconscious about asking.

      • WideningGyro [any]
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        10 months ago

        He may also genuinely be a Burzum fan? I would feel icky listening to it, having read way too much about Varg's garbage opinions, but I do know that musically it is extremely highly regarded.

    • the_kid
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      10 months ago

      Also, this might just be a Northern Europe thing but I feel like I regularly see people in Burzum t-shirts

      Swedes?

    • btbt [he/him]
      hexagon
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      10 months ago

      Couldn’t have said it better myself

  • LeZero [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Imagine he starts doing a collab with Varg... agony-deep

    At least that would pull that fucking nazi out of the ttrpg space

      • LeZero [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Maybe, I don't read nazi literature, but I wouldn't be surprised

        • voight [he/him, any]
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          10 months ago

          exactly why I was trying to bait one of you fellows into giving me a Twitter roast thread or something

          this former sub/site is really good about fun facts about the Pantheon of evil far right figures lol

          I remember it's like really boring like there are elves who are surviving on a very cold dark world. it's like the setting of a heavy metal song but without the screaming to obfuscate the boring shit

          • Egon
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            2 months ago

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            • voight [he/him, any]
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              10 months ago

              Thank you! I am delighted it has a Crusader Kings-esque progeny possession system. Of course it does. lmfao

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      10 months ago

      Gucci Mane sampled Varg on one of his songs lol. But based on the producer and Gucci, I doubt it was a dog whistle. But Kanye, lol.

  • LeninsBeard [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    What in the fuck was that Kanye? I told you to do some shit for the kids

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      10 months ago

      stalin-bummed we were supposed to make them jump up and down and start sharing candy and stuff ussr-cry

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      10 months ago

      I don't know how true this is, but the lore I heard is that Varg quit black metal because his nazi brainworms brainworms caused him to finally admit to himself it wasn't an Aryan enough genre and he was just appropriating POC music, because black metal ultimately has its roots in the blues, which he internalized as making him not segregated enough. So your comment checks out lol

    • Dalek
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      10 months ago

      Fucking Black Metal bands piss me off with their shitty logos. Having said that there are still some good anti-racist, pro-LGTBQ+ bands out there who're fighting to bring the music back from the idiots.

      • booty [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        this is why i appreciate party cannon. an oasis of normal human logo design in a sea of eldritch horror

  • Self_Hating_Moid [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Kanye west records himself shitting in a oil drum and every 12 year old white kid is like that's real music

    • btbt [he/him]
      hexagon
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      10 months ago

      You mean the Reddit thread or this one? Please let me know I don’t wanna be excommunicated from the bearsite for creating a bad post, I might have to resort to things like talking to my family and going outside for entertainment stalin-stressed