we must protect our boy Joe

  • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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    3 years ago

    Latest USA today poll was pretty bad. 41% approval, down to like 26% among independents, and "handling of Covid" was the only major issue where over 50% approved ("Afghanistan" and "the economy" were in the 20s, despite the fact that 55% supported the withdrawal lol). Consent machine working overtime out here.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/08/24/afghanistan-woes-sink-bidens-approval-41-usa-today-suffolk-poll/8244854002/ if you want some good brainworms.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      “Afghanistan” and “the economy” were in the 20s, despite the fact that 55% supported the withdrawal

      God Damn the major media networks can really make half the country believe whatever they want can't they.

        • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I kind of want to make a thread about that, but is that REALLY going to happen? I haven't looked into it that much but isn't there still a large amount of interdependence between Chinese and America capital? The amount of anti Chinese rhetoric makes me think they may actually try it but it seems so insane that they would actually want to. I could see a rerun of the Cold War where it's El Mozote all day everyday in whatever country has geopolitical significance but that's not exactly the kind of thing that would build patriotic fervor with the plebes

          • star_wraith [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Nah, when a bully gets humiliated, they don't pick a fight with a tough guy, they pick on a smallest and least able to defend themselves (Cuba or Venezuela IMO).

          • femboi [they/them, she/her]
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            3 years ago

            It’s really saying something that despite the fact that going to war with China would immediately destroy the US economy overnight and quickly bring an end to US dominance of east Asia, it still might happen anyway

          • SovietSwine [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            For the reasons you mentioned (Capital interdependence) and for the fact that a one on one conventional war with China would probably be the bloodiest war in American history I don't think they'll start a war with China. This means they are going to find a weaker country they think they can push around. They might not invade the place but they'll start saying shit like 'we need to get tough on Venezuela/Iran/Cuba/Syria/[insert enemy of American hegemony here]', though I could see the ghouls deciding to do some shit like invading Haiti or Venezuela or intervening in Syria. I think the most likely thing America is going to with China is just start beating the drums of war as loud as possible without having to actually commit to something that could lead to a full on war. This might be more ships in the South China Seas, closer military cooperation with Japan/India/the Philippines/South Korea(though I don't see how that could be any closer), hoping to get a response from China to paint them as the greatest threat to the world, thereby finding a new justification for giving unlimited money to the military industrial complex, as now the War on Terror is kinda over.

          • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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            3 years ago

            In the next 6 months, there's a lot of domestic shit they still have to deal with (Fall could get spicy with the economy). Who knows what the general geopolitical landscape will look like then? Africa is a frontier that no one is really talking about, but China is definitely invested there and certain parts of the security state already have tendrels there as well (remember that Buttigieg took a "vacation" to Somaliland).

            • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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              3 years ago

              In the next 6 months

              A Friedman unit, only demonstrable and without irony.

      • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Will anyone even be thinking of Afghanistan in a month? I doubt this will have any impact on any future elections.

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      3 years ago

      The majority of people still approve of his handling of covid? :amerikkka-clap:

      • Teekeeus
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        27 days ago

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        • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          “life returning to normal”

          climate change is gonna be fun

      • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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        3 years ago

        Maybe, but I think Africa is more likely. There's a lot more of an NGO "nation building" angle that can be sold there as a replacement for Afghanistan, China's over there heavily, and it's lower risk vs. the potential of another humiliation of another Bay of Pigs type ordeal right after Afghanistan (you have to imagine the Guaido debacle still leaves a sour taste).

        That or a coup to help Bolsonaro.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        South Asia is another likely option. They already have an ally in India and can maybe agitate Pakistan a little more as well. It would probably be an attempt for them to create a bulwark against China instead of taking them on headfirst.