we must protect our boy Joe
Something obnoxious about Biden crashing for actually ending a war (an overwhelmingly popular decision!) so the natsec ghouls at CNN and MSNBC decided to blast him a new one.
Biden kept his numbers up despite giving up on the $15 min wage and a host of other things but he crashes for accomplishing America’s once-a-decade good foreign policy decision.
as soon as I heard how mad they were on NPR I knew the consent machine was going brr
Wasn't it the same with Trump and how much he got flak for making an actual reasonable decision (forgot what it was)?
Yeah he definitely got flak there, although tbf those ended up turning into nothing.
Literally just a big PR show to kinda-sorta defuse a situation that was brought on almost entirely by Trump tweeting. Absolute joke. It did piss off a lot of hawks and other natsec freaks, though.
I think it's more delta variant and Covid resurgence than that, but I'm not American so I'm probably wrong here
i fucking wish
prevailing opinion is still 'back to normal' or the same with an asterisk :what-the-hell:
I don't think so. Biden's approval rating on the pandemic is still pretty high and his approval rating started plummeting once the Afghanistan news broke. I strongly believe this is due to Afghanistan, not the pandemic.
Look at the recent drop on 538 here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo
It'll return to something close to the overall trend. Might take a while though.
America is a bloated murder beast that does nothing but uncritically watch television
whereas I am a bloated murder beast who watches tv with a critical eye
I have it on reliable authority that you also spend time growing beans
what kind of bean do you want and how long is your growing season
lima beans are their own species and I don't know strains of it so well, I'd say look in your seed catalogues for short-season highly productive limas. 'Henderson' / 'Thorogreen' is a bush cultivar so it doesn't need trellising and finishes in only 65 days so how about u try that one
I legitimately appreciate this, that's a great start. Thanks
I'll never be satisfied until I can start my own subcommunities, but :screm-cool: :screm-pretty: :screm-a: is the next generation of visual communication.
Biden's numbers dipping makes sense when you realize how demented the foreign policy views of most US Americans are. Of course most Americans wanted a withdrawal, but the way Biden did it embarrassed them. It makes us look bad and for a brief moment, Americans might have actually questioned if USA really is #1. Probably just a microsecond - an event so quick you could say it probably didn't even occur. No different with Iraq. Lib, chud, and apolitical alike Americans are not fucking sorry for invading and killing hundreds of thousands based on a easily falsifiable, paper-thin lie. Americans believed that lie about Iraq because they wanted to. Because war is fucking fun for us. Stuff go boom and we get cool movies about it and get to believe that USA #1!!!! for a little while longer. But then Bush had to go and not decisively win the war. Which - like the withdrawal from Afghanistan - was embarrassing and made us look bad. It's not about the dead Iraqis, it's about our precious self-image as Americans.
One of these days I'm gonna start a big ol' struggle session about to what extent us normal, working class Americans share in the blame for the evil our country has wrecked abroad. (Hint: I don't think it's all just capital indoctrinating us).
I don't think this is 100% the case. I think the average American doesn't give a shit about foreign policy, so they get what they're supposed to believe from the natsec ghouls on the TV. They're all liberal hawks who despise Biden's decision to withdraw, so it's easy to manufacture consent about it.
I think the average American does have pretty reactionary views in general, but your average Joe couldn't even locate Afghanistan on a map of the Middle East. They just watched CNN, saw the people dropping off of planes, and thought "this is bad, so Biden bad. Disapprove in poll."
what extent us normal, working class Americans share in the blame for the evil our country has wrecked abroad. (Hint: I don’t think it’s all just capital indoctrinating us).
Do it!
Latest USA today poll was pretty bad. 41% approval, down to like 26% among independents, and "handling of Covid" was the only major issue where over 50% approved ("Afghanistan" and "the economy" were in the 20s, despite the fact that 55% supported the withdrawal lol). Consent machine working overtime out here.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/08/24/afghanistan-woes-sink-bidens-approval-41-usa-today-suffolk-poll/8244854002/ if you want some good brainworms.
“Afghanistan” and “the economy” were in the 20s, despite the fact that 55% supported the withdrawal
God Damn the major media networks can really make half the country believe whatever they want can't they.
I kind of want to make a thread about that, but is that REALLY going to happen? I haven't looked into it that much but isn't there still a large amount of interdependence between Chinese and America capital? The amount of anti Chinese rhetoric makes me think they may actually try it but it seems so insane that they would actually want to. I could see a rerun of the Cold War where it's El Mozote all day everyday in whatever country has geopolitical significance but that's not exactly the kind of thing that would build patriotic fervor with the plebes
Nah, when a bully gets humiliated, they don't pick a fight with a tough guy, they pick on a smallest and least able to defend themselves (Cuba or Venezuela IMO).
It’s really saying something that despite the fact that going to war with China would immediately destroy the US economy overnight and quickly bring an end to US dominance of east Asia, it still might happen anyway
For the reasons you mentioned (Capital interdependence) and for the fact that a one on one conventional war with China would probably be the bloodiest war in American history I don't think they'll start a war with China. This means they are going to find a weaker country they think they can push around. They might not invade the place but they'll start saying shit like 'we need to get tough on Venezuela/Iran/Cuba/Syria/[insert enemy of American hegemony here]', though I could see the ghouls deciding to do some shit like invading Haiti or Venezuela or intervening in Syria. I think the most likely thing America is going to with China is just start beating the drums of war as loud as possible without having to actually commit to something that could lead to a full on war. This might be more ships in the South China Seas, closer military cooperation with Japan/India/the Philippines/South Korea(though I don't see how that could be any closer), hoping to get a response from China to paint them as the greatest threat to the world, thereby finding a new justification for giving unlimited money to the military industrial complex, as now the War on Terror is kinda over.
In the next 6 months, there's a lot of domestic shit they still have to deal with (Fall could get spicy with the economy). Who knows what the general geopolitical landscape will look like then? Africa is a frontier that no one is really talking about, but China is definitely invested there and certain parts of the security state already have tendrels there as well (remember that Buttigieg took a "vacation" to Somaliland).
In the next 6 months
A Friedman unit, only demonstrable and without irony.
Will anyone even be thinking of Afghanistan in a month? I doubt this will have any impact on any future elections.
The majority of people still approve of his handling of covid? :amerikkka-clap:
Maybe, but I think Africa is more likely. There's a lot more of an NGO "nation building" angle that can be sold there as a replacement for Afghanistan, China's over there heavily, and it's lower risk vs. the potential of another humiliation of another Bay of Pigs type ordeal right after Afghanistan (you have to imagine the Guaido debacle still leaves a sour taste).
That or a coup to help Bolsonaro.
South Asia is another likely option. They already have an ally in India and can maybe agitate Pakistan a little more as well. It would probably be an attempt for them to create a bulwark against China instead of taking them on headfirst.
The only people they poll are shut ins that answer every number they dont recognize and who actually take time during work hours to answer a long ass poll. Its a totally unrepresentative sample which is why polling keeps shitting the bed.
Bad thing happens :dean-frown: to a bad person :dean-malice: for a bad reason :dean-neutral:
Our Lib Fruit trees that are sustained on liberal tears will grow abundantly.
Such a fucking dumb country
He does the thing everyone wanted to do but has a >30% when it comes to that
