I hate these stupid ass motherfuckers. Yellowjackets will leave you alone if you leave them alone, simple as that.
I have a nest of them in my garden currently, they took over a compost bin. I went right up to them and was fucking around with the compost before realizing they were there. They started swarming so I immediately stopped moving, then after a few seconds, slowly took my hand out, waited a few more seconds, then put the lid back on the bin and secured it, then slowly backed away. Didn't get stung at all even though I basically touched some of them and messed with their shelter.
But no these Big Tough Manly Men™ on reddit.com are so scared of them that they will burn them alive, drown them, stomp on them, poison them, etc. Fucking pathetic.
ETA: Read up, libs
Every time I've encountered yellow jackets they've attacked first
Idk what to tell you then tbh. Never had that experience with them.
I concider being completely unaware of their existence until they attack me as being fairly relaxed around them.
There's an entire subreddit dedicated to hating deer with endless videos of them being splattered by cars or otherwise injuring themselves
Also, if wasps don't want to be killed why didn't they become bumblebees instead :kubrick-stare:
There’s an entire subreddit dedicated to hating deer with endless videos of them being splattered by cars or otherwise injuring themselves
That's some serial killer shit.
The comments are all I HATE DEER THEY'RE SO FUCKING STUPID
Scratching my head over how someone could hate deer. They're peaceful and pretty to look at. If they're mad about them hitting cars, blame our backwards car culture and setting up rural roads to run through areas deer travel.
Apparently snuff compilations of murdering furry critters was an entire VHS tape genre
https://youtu.be/ZmRs1QjHU-k?t=384
(Link to Best of the Worst ep, not an example of a video, though CW, there's some censored animal gore)
Now I am opposed to deer in that there are too many without a natural wolf population or human hunters keeping them in check, and they are capitalism's greatest ally in destroying american forests. However, I am not here to see them suffer or exacting pleasure from their pain, that's monstrous. If these people actually cared about deer overpopulation they would be protesting in favor of increasing wolf populations or become hunters and reduce the population directly. Instead they are snuff porn enthusiasts who enjoy feeling more powerful than a literal animal with no judgement.
They would also be protesting against deer farms run by hunting companies to keep the wild game population up.
yeah. The only valid reason for those is to fight deer wasting, but they usually aren't run well enough to fight that.
Yeah, in fact they often resupply the hunting “stock”, which is beyond fucked.
they are capitalism’s greatest ally in destroying american forests
Can you explain this please?
deer prefer to eat saplings or fresh growth over established trees or old growth. In a healthy forest, they help prevent an excess of trees from overusing resources, while wolf populations keep them from eating all the new growth. Because wolves have been driven out of many places and have low numbers, they cannot keep down deer populations, and the perspective that deer are somehow sweet or innocent makes a lot of people hesitant to kill them when they would not balk at slaughtering a cougar or a wolf on their property. Because of this, attempts are reforestation in america are often stymied by the massive deer population feasting on the new growth and young trees, and the constant encroachment of suburbs keeps expanding both the exposed outer edge of the forest and places where deer are not predated. The best solution is to destroy suburbs and urban sprawl, reintroduce wolves and have massive breeding programs, and modify our wood consumption habits. The fastest solution would be to increase deer consumption and hunting or introduce more deer anti-breeding programs(making deer sterile or infertile, which has shown some success I think). america is taking neither course because of course it's not, so the problem just gets worse.
Love to see people being downvoted for pointing out that wasps/yellowjackets have a vital role to play as members of their ecosystem. There is also the wonderful accepted wisdom that somehow non-native honeybees are “the good bug” unlike wasps. It reminds me of how the “save the bees” urban beekeeping craze is squeezing the limited resources available to native bees. Why the fuck is ecological management not centrally planned? :honk-enraged:
Lest you call a Redditor ignorant or try to broaden their worldview though. They are not ignorant. They have a huge folder of I Fucking Love Science memes and have seen every video of Neil deGrasse Tyson. They know shit.
Why the fuck is ecological management not centrally planned
ecological management would probably be more efficient if it was locally run by people who know about the native wildlife just because a central government isn't really that capable of making small adjustments to specific local criteria
True, especially given the scale of the US (which is still something I struggle with comprehending at times). I guess the thing I’m grasping for is some degree informed planning to it that is delegated from a position of authority - to prevent counterproductive, undirected acts of good intention happening (like urban beekeeping).
yeah a bunch of random good intentioned people who know nothing about what's helpful is also not ideal
Why the fuck would people not raise native bees if they were going to do this as a hobby?
Native bees are generally solitary and don't produce honey. People are looking to exploit honeybees and pretend they're good for doing so
Did you move or tense up when it landed on you? Not saying you did anything intentional to provoke it but sometimes when they land on you if there's any sudden movement or your muscles tense enough, they'll perceive a threat and sting.
no cause once you learn how to handle a wasp being nearby you're reliably safe from wasps
also it's a wasp it's incapable of knowing better
:wut:
Your posting keeps shifting between reasonable and :bait:
I post an example of redditors being reactionary fucking idiots and every dumbass nerd on this site comes in here like "uhmm ackshually wasps are evil and must be exterminated you are a eugenicist and are making them out to be noble savages" I'm fucking pissed!!
Someone literally unironically referred to a motherfucking garden as a eugenics program do you see the caliber of people I'm interacting with here?
It’s not the majority of people here. I’ve just noticed some of your posts in general occasionally shift into weird troll territory. Something to keep in mind if you’re not sus and working to communicate better like we all are.
I’m only posting this because I think you’re probably cool and just used to having to slug it out on reddit lol
I just have little patience from having to deal with shitheads all day at work. Plus I have high standards for this place and am very irritated when people break out the liberalism.
But I appreciate your words and will tone it down.
Yeah, I def get that. This site is on the whole pretty solid, but I generally just expect folks to have different brainworms they’ll need to work through (myself included). If you’re also on the more left side of the eco movement like I am, then I totally empathize it can be frustrating. We have a lot of education work to do.
And no probs. I’ve just noticed the mods here (correctly) ban users who become too harsh (check the modlog entries for “hostile”) and I’ve been guilty of that in the past on previous (now banned) accounts lol
Also I don’t know why I used so many parentheses in this comment, but hopefully you get what I'm going for hah
Yellowjackets can get territorial and attack you relatively unprompted. It depends on where you are relative to their nest and whether there is food nearby.
If I was less allergic or they were less aggressive we could cohabitate peacefully. Fortunately there aren't a ton in my area normally so I don't usually run into them and they haven't tried to set up shop where I've lived.
so wait are you just not using your compost bin anymore because the yellow jackets did some land reform on it?
I've got three of them so it's nbd. I'm getting more benefit from them hanging around and eating pests (the cabbage worms have been especially bad this year and jackets eat them) than missing one bin's worth of compost for a season.
Also it's still composting even with them living there, just slower because I can't turn it. When they eventually move out or die off I'll still have some good compost. Enriched by the jackets even!
:stalin-shining: but fr they're just trash cans with holes drilled
ah but if you use the same piece of plastic for a really long time it's an incredibly durable material that means you don't have to replace things often. I'm holding on to mine until we run out of oil and they become unreproducible marvels
yeah of course it depends on the type of plastic when did I imply I didn't think that
Wait you'd stop composting? That would kill a lot more animals than a few wasps though.
by throwing food in landfills, which reduces what you can grow from the compost by a little, which increases the amount that is factory farmed just a little.
Oh that makes sense but also wouldn't be a problem then because all winter I put food scraps in a bag in the freezer to compost when everything warms up. Id just do that until getting another bin or the jackets leave.
Neat.
I think sometimes these bugs gotta be removed because kids will try to injure themselves anyway possible, but you also can leave them alone like here.
so like, you know there are multiple genera and species under the common name "yellow jacket" in North America, right?
I mean, congrats on your magic garden where all live in harmony under your benevolent eugenics program, but territorial behavior and aggression have variability even within a single hive and species. you're not the hymenoptera whisperer just because you haven't gotten popped yet. the real test of your non-aggression pact will be when a colony sets up next to an exterior door.
Lol "benevolent eugenics program" to describe a fucking garden. Piss off
the hatred for wasps is just unreal. They are a vital part of the ecosystem that is actively reducing the amount of mosquitos and other pests around you, but you have to whinge because they'll sting you when you are actively being a nuisance.
settler mindset. kill the native life so I can be more comfortable
It’s a “eat or starve” type thing.
I hope I don't get beaten for this opinion but this is why I'm not vegan. I'm completely against factory farming and gluttonous overconsumption (I feel sick when I see right wing people posting their four times a day red meat meals, wtf) but I mean in nature animals kill and/or eat each other all the time, often brutally. Its always seemed to me just a natural, unavoidable part of life, like death. I think it just has to be done with intention and respect...
I mean in nature animals kill and/or eat each other all the time,
Animals do a lot of horrific shit to each other that you would rightfully condemn me for doing to any animal. This is simply not a valid argument.
I’m really glad that you’re opposed to factory farming, and I’m not trying to say you’re a bad person or lecture you or anything, but I don’t think you’ve thought through the full implications of your moral reasoning for slaughtering animals. I think it raises a number of questions that you may not have directly considered but might be helpful to think about.
If it’s ok for us to kill animals because some other animals kill each other, then why would it be wrong to rape or torture animals when some animals do these things as well? Why is only killing justified by this reasoning and not other actions we’d consider harmful as well?
If this reasoning is supposed to apply to all animals, then why would, say, a hawk killing a dove justify me killing more doves? Do the doves lose the right to live simply because other animals kill them?
Why would humans be exempt from being killed for food when we know many humans kill and/or eat other animals all the time, often brutally? After all, it’s not like anyone is advocating for just eating animals which have killed other animals, so it wouldn’t matter if the individual human had killed anyone, just that other humans had done so.
Would you be ok with being hunted and killed by a billionaire cannibal as long as he did it with “intention and respect”? How are your reasons for not wanting that to happen to yourself different from those of a deer or dove being hunted when the hunter can thrive on a vegan diet instead?
These were just some of the questions I had to work through when I started trying to form my own moral opinions on animal exploitation, and it’s fine to not have all the answers right now but I’d strongly encourage you to keep thinking on it. I also think it’s important to remember that “humans” and “animals” are not two entirely separate categories of beings, and that animals are not a monolithic group that all have the same behaviors and capabilities.
cannot be mythologized into the noble savages of the bug zone.
lmfao this site cracks me up
Similarities Between Settler Colonial Sentiment and Depiction of Bug Species in the Media
- 69fart69
Idk what it means for trash pandas
Guy come on, link directly to the man not a click bait aggregator. He has HUNDREDS OF DAILY UPLOADS where he gives dozens of raccoons heart disease and diabetes with hundreds of frozen hot dogs.
https://youtube.com/c/JamesBlackwoodRaccoonWhisperer
People (can be) so wonderful. I love the fact he's a retired mountie, and this all takes place in a Canada with no starlight tours, where Trailer Park Boys was a documentary. One time on the live feed he was heartedly arguing with a game warden about this practice and the warden was like LOOK AT THAT RACCOON HE'S TOO FAT TO WALK as some Goliath trash panda cartman-waddled down the steps and fell, and the warden instantly realized he had inadvertently hurt this very large gentleman's feelings.
God. Almost takes the pain of the last two years away.
I mean, I have a crippling phobia of bees and wasps and even I don't go out of my way to try and kill them if I see them outside
These things freak me out but you're insane if your first response is to kill it
Oh boy time to break out the European wasp vs Africanized bee discussion on how naming conventions for flying insects are used to ingrain racialized colonial sentiment
