yay now you have to watch the whole video to tell if it's a scam/troll/shitty tutorial, at least capeshit movie trailers won't be downvoted anymore

  • P1d40n3 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Hexbear out here inventing shit and then YouTube tries to pass this off as NOT stealing honey from mama Hexbear. It makes me mad. We're the ones on the cutting edge, and comrades, only the revolution will free us of this revisionism.

  • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Fuck, that sucks. I remember when Youtube used to show you the number of stars a video had in the thumbnail back when they had stars. You didn't even have to click on a video to know it was bad and not worth your time.

    Now we're all gonna have to sit through clickbait, scams, screamers, just generally bad videos every single time.

      • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        There is so much useful information on Youtube that it's basically impossible. You can stop watching Youtube for entertainment, sure. But it'd be terrible to give up all of the tutorial videos, educational videos, technical videos, etc. For that there is basically no replacement.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah it's The Video Website, exactly like how Reddit is The One Forum

          • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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            3 years ago

            This consolidation of the entire internet into just a few websites has really ruined something that used to be a treasure. Now a giant portion of the collective public consciousness is at the mercy of a few companies.

            Just another example of how capitalism can't even deliver on its main promise that competition drives innovation. Under capitalism competition is like entropy. It can only trend down as the wealth concentrates into the hands of a few major companies and monopolies form.

            Edit: I realize entropy trends up. you get what I mean, though

    • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I only watch people I follow, so I always know what I'm going to get, I've never wandered on youtube because it's shit

  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Embrace hexbear thought :hexbear-retro:

  • VHS [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    tough shit for anyone looking for tutorials, i guess :sadness: google is a disaster when it comes to consistent design

    • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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      3 years ago

      Most of the "how-tos" I've searched on Google pointed me (on the entire first page of results) to shitty ad-infested sites that are just advertisements themselves for some awful product. Google has made the internet infinitely worse.

    • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      When Youtube took action on the Elsagate shit a while ago they disabled comments on all videos that were tagged as for kids. And generally that was a good move.

      But as a side effect, pretty much any clip from any cartoon on Youtube also has comments disabled. Even cartoons that are decades old and not currently airing. And that really sucked because every once in a while I'd like to go and watch some of those for nostalgia and reading the comments was the best part.

  • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    you know what sucks the most, in my opinion? it's not that we won't get to see if it's a shitty video straight away, or if the chuds are brigading it or anything like that... it's just the fact that this is 100% going to somehow change online discourse, and who the fuck knows how

    it's like they're just pulling levers in this giant radicalization machine, and all we can do is hope that this doesn't have the same shitty consequences as their long tail thought bubble algorithm bullshit

      • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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        3 years ago

        Absolutely, I think one the big obstacle for many leftists creators is the fear of chuds brigading their vids. Now with the dislike invincible not only it would help their self esteem, it'll also allow them to freely purge the comment section.

    • Jeff_Benzos [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      long tail thought bubble algorithm bullshit

      What does this mean

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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        3 years ago

        The filter-bubble is a term used for the way the content you consume online is used to tailor the content directed at you, especially by large entities like Google and Facebook and Amazon. It magnifies biases in feedback loops, creates sortitions of people online, and even leads to the point where two people can find completely conflicting things from the same search query, based on how the algorithm analyzes you.

        The Filter Bubble by Eli Pariser is a very good read. It lays out many social dynamics of the Web today, including advertising and social media and third-party tracking.

      • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        honestly, I'm just tossing random algorithm marketing buzzwords around to make a point of how this is all techbro mumbo jumbo, but despite my dislike for the NYT, there's some interesting stuff about right wing radicalization in their rabbit hole podcast, you might want to check it out: https://www.nytimes.com/column/rabbit-hole

  • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Just realized this is going to become the reason they eventually remove comments. On every bad video, the top comment will become: "Like this comment to dislike the video"

    I suppose it's easy enough to just disable comments on movie trailers and other stuff they don't want people to mass dislike. But they already had the option to disable the like system on individual videos.

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Would they do that though? We know these companies prize engagement above all else, and I can't be the only one who probably spends as much time reading YT comments as I do actually watching videos.

      Then again, I suppose YT comments aren't tied to advertising so maybe they don't give a shit about how much people engage with them...

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I dunno, it doesn't seem like dislikes really did anything to make youtube suck any less, so whatever. Disliking videos literally just boosted their engagement and place in the algorithm. Youtube will always suck so long as it is the definitive place for videos and so long as it is run on a for-profit model.

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    is it only for specific videos? or maybe they are rolling it out, i still have them it seems

      • cawsby [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Don't worry, with the rate of change for google product UIs we will see it again.

    • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      People never agree on what different ratings mean and usually people just vote the max or the minimum anyway