Excited to get the shakey-cam video of HBomberGuy doing a signing at a Con only to have his head spontaneously explode when he accidentally autographs a piece of the Death Note.
It's a legit tactic in Death Note to use a celebrity's name as a pseudonym in order to make them a sacrificial lamb for if someone tries to kill you, so this also kind of makes sense.
Only works if they look similar to you, since you have to be picturing the person's face as you write the name.
Yup. Matsuda deliberately fumbled and exposed his face to not-Kira Death Note holders but didn’t die since he gave a fake name.
I'm under the impression you might accidentally/subconsciously think about both faces and the Death Note will LGTM it. I don't remember the canon drawing a hard line on the topic, but L was strategically leveraging the ambiguity of that rule.
HB accidentally signing his name wrong and a derpy confused little fart emanates from one of his ears.
Western war criminals be looking at each other confused about why they're completely fine until they realize the killer is from one of the US' client states.
🤓 erm actually. The client state sold the death note to the Americans.
Show
tanaka in the one shot looked very cute just gonna say that
L gets deported back to the UK. Everyone on the Kira suspect list gets put under secret protection by NATO. The news in Japan gets blasted with media stories about America's enemies.
Why is Death Note a thing again? That shit was for the most edgy of hot topic teens when I was a kid.
It’s one of the staple anime and manga. No different than Minecraft and TF2 being a staple of PC gaming.
It is edgy, but so what? it’s a fun watch. I rewatch it like once every few years because the music is good, and my perspectives have changed from thinking Light did nothing wrong to realizing he’d kill anyone QAnon accused of being a pedophile.
I also enjoy the magical realism. Everyone acknowledges that their entire understanding of the world has been shattered, but it doesn’t matter because now they have to go back to doing police paperwork and investigations and sitting around.
And the best part is that the supernatural deity Ryuk, the most edgy gothic looking one besides Misa, isn’t edgy at all. He’s just bored and tags along a brat who thinks he’s solved the world.
Just a popular enough piece of media that a lot of people will get the reference. That said youre underselling it based on fanbase here i think. I think itd pretty good.
20 years ago it was the show for the wallet chained and that's hard to get past. I guess Limp Bizkit came back too, the wallet chained are being vindicated.
You're only understanding it in the context of how it fit into mainstream culture at the time, in the anime subculture it was firmly established as a pillar of the edgy side of anime. It sits at the boarder between shounen fans and more mature shows, having a protagonist who's simply not conventionally good, some exploration of themes, and frequent depictions of death and disturbing concepts. It may be clumsy or juvenile at times, but it's a core piece of media to anime fans, and watching at least the first season is part of the shared culture and media in that sphere.
I remember about the time death note was rising in popularity, most TV shows available to the average american teenager (not me I was below average) were "about nothing", the stories were either so basic/short/trivial/generic/for-kids you might as well say the story didn't exist or were aimless and next week's episode forgot everything from last-week. If you watched cartoon network, you get the impressed to believe that animes have long-form story telling and western cartoons are for baby children, which functionally is true-enough if that distinction matters. If you were willing to watch anime with subtitles, you basically 100x your supply of good TV shows. I still like the pointless shows like lucky star and bugs bunny, but at the time, that's literally all that was available in western cartoons. Death Note was likely one of the highest quality and earliest long-form cartoons most western millennials got to see of it's style and genre.
That makes sense. I was in high school when it first was a thing and wowee it seemed exclusively for mall ninjas.
there's a difference between "people who watched Deathnote" and "people who wouldn't shut up about deathnote"
There was a dude who tried making his own smoke bombs to dissappear in, they of course didn't work and i think he set if s fire alarm and got kid arrested one time. There was another dude who tried to do a cool climb leap over a chain link fence and caught his leg on the descent. Cool exits seemed to be their biggest gambit. The early to mid 2000s had an interesting cast
It's what makes me question how it was something to come back after almost 20 years and not something without being associated with dudes whonacted like Kaiba from yugioh irl. We talk about embracing cringe now but at least thst implies you still know it's cringe being cringe while thinking you're the coolest thing ever is a whole other thing
That's the thing, it didn't come back. It's always been part of the anime community. Just like EVA and Sailor Moon
The second half of the show was such a letdown after the amazing set up done before L's departure
They really should’ve just kept L around until near the end because Near and Mello were fucking awful lol. Literally no reason for their inclusion
Yeah, silly decision to throw away all the tension and chemistry built up between the mastermind detective and the illusive killer to do a "well the mastermind detective actually raised two orphans to be mastermind-1 detectives and they kinda hate each other but now they're on the case" twist. Addiction to twists and/or "this is successful, I have to keep writing more of it for financial reasons" after already killing off L have to be the reasons.
I'm proud of you, being able to stand up tall and loudly proclaim that you're wrong like that takes guts.
near and mello are a good foil for l and are both really good characters, and their dynamics with light rule
does it? I liked it as a teenager but kinda found it mid as an adult
yeah i like seeing kinda dumb mind games being played and the music makes it work really well
sadly the composer was arrested for weed and has therefore been completely blacklisted from the industry
The first half of the show is probably my favorite anime. Yes, it's pretty edgy, but it shows such a great game of intellectual cat and mouse.
I liked a lot about the second half, too. I know it's weird and not as good, but the change in dynamic by splitting L's impulsiveness and thoughtfulness to the extremes with two different characters I thought was really interesting actually. But I think I'm the only one who thought that lol.
Light gets hbg cancelled for cyberstalking a neurodivergent minor
Light is way too conceited to plagiarize. Unless it was to set up a (meta-level) trick of some kind, he would take such an action as an admission of his own inadequacy, which he would never accept.
Saying shitty reactionary nonsense is completely like him, though.
It's ambiguous, but the Death Note seems to work based on what the name-holder believes is "really" their name, which in most cases will be their legal name (though in the case of, like, a slave name, we'd expect the original name to be the one that works). Changing your legal name as a ploy wouldn't work, plus you can't legally change your name without there being a record and people who processed the paperwork having seen it and so on. In general, this is just a poor job riffing on the source material, and I say this in part because I've absolutely seen dumb, pandering meme shit that nonetheless captures Death Note's better aspects much more effectively.
The core joke here is "Hbomberguy could solve the Kira case AND intuit the mechanics of the death note" which I find very funny. But your critiques are fair.
And huh, I had always assumed that Light would have had to have find a trans person's deadname if it wasnt legally changed (for example).
I'm definitely giving an interpretation, to be clear, though there is some evidence for it. I think there ended up being an aside, for example, that L's given name was really considered to be "L" by the shinigami eyes (with his legal surname still being needed for the Death Note), though whether it was because he thought of himself as L or because others thought of him as L or something else is never explained.
Why do leftists put so much respect on hbomberguy? especially compared to breadtube at large.
I've seen a handful of his videos and they seem like just decently well-made gaming commentary. I accidentally half-watched ~3 hours of the 4 hour long video after it autoplayed, and felt it didn't warrant the glowing appreciation I saw online about it. Not explicitly bad, just far too much effort put into calling out people for plagiarizing...which I don't give a flying fuck about because it's usually immaterial and glorifying IP rights.
Never had any strong opinion about him, but got a vague impression he'd eventually pull the same thing most YouTubers do...burn any good will on anti-AES takes.
That's the worst take I have ever seen on plagiarism. Claiming the result of someone else's labor as your own is clearly bourgeois behavior. Plus, for research, a clear paper trail is essential to making sure the speaker is not making shit up.
Bourgeois isn't a feeling, it's a class relation. Copying publicly accessible, infinitely repoducible information and signing your name on it is shitty, but it isn't stealing surplus value.
Plus, for research, a clear paper trail is essential to making sure the speaker is not making shit up.
Plagiarism should be discouraged for this reason.
when a major queer youtuber steals the entire bodies of work of much, much smaller queer writers, profiting on their work and returning not even the means for social reproduction, they've expropriated surplus value and then some. some of the people stolen from died from AIDS, in obscurity, while others received pennies on the dollar for their work. half the video was building up cases of what plagiarism looks like in order to make this charge.
And yet, certain behaviors get caught up within that class and are replicated outside of it. If you get money without performing labor, that's stealing surplus value. Simple as. Social capital is also crucial, so your argument is invalid.
He's managed to avoid doing that for this long by merely avoiding the subject. And he's doing well on Palestine. He's been around long enough now that I doubt thatll change.
I think he earned most of his leftist street cred through his big charity stream for Mermaids. And a few of his vids have been criticizing right wing creators or topics.
But tbh in dont like him because I think of him as a principled leftist lol I just like his content a lot. Especially his Pathgologic video and ESPECIALLY the video on Loss. His potical videos arent even my prefered stuff from him, though his climate change one is solid.
That said, bad take to say you don't care about the plagerism he covered in his video, because its mostly cases of larger creators with clout stealing from powerless smaller creators. Im anti-IP too but smaller creators need protection from theft whilest capitalism still exists. Its the same reason the majority of leftists are against AI art, at least under capitalism.
Especially his Pathgologic video
YouTube wanted me to watch this so bad. I thought it was good, but I had never heard of Pathologic before the video. I think I'm just not interested in that genre of content.
Im anti-IP too but smaller creators need protection from theft whilest capitalism still exists.
Theft of what? If I publish a video reading out your article, what was stolen from you? I understand the sentiment, but there's limited tangible impact. The discussion on AI produced content is more interesting because it introduces systemic components & is capable of copying & pre-empting creators at scale.
The way writers get more money is through notoriety, when you steal a writer's work without saying they made it you claim the notoriety for yourself and effectively get to steal future roles and credibility that would have given them money.
Writers build a moneyed career slowly over time, being paid for good articles isn't the point and isn't why they do it, they do it to build for future positions and security. In this lense it's easy to see that yes, it is literally bourgeois behavior to steal uncredited labor to build your own enterprise.
If I publish a video reading out your article, what was stolen from you?
Well in that case nothing cuz I assume you credited me properly when you read the title and author
Yeah I hadnt heard of Pathologic before either, but Hbomb made exploring it interesting for me. Ill probably never play it though lol
Oh, i just saw what youre replying to.
The tumblr post's joke is because his last two videos have been investigative deep dives where he exposes people for frauds. The roblox oof video that ends up being more about exposing Tommy Talarico involved some pretty incredible feets of research. So "he's a good enough detectice to catch Light" becomes a funny joke to make.
Makes sense. The Talarico video was fucking hilarious
HBomb, as well as Shaun (and Jen) and Contrapoints, was just in the right place at the right time with left-leaning content. He was dunking on alt right weirdos when they were surging in YouTube's algo, and thus was one of the first big names in the Breadtube phenomenon, which could be seen as a reaction by progressives against the right wing domination of the platform. "Breadtube" has of course grown and changed in the meantime, and I don't think HBomb claims the label, but he was riding the wave of it whether he intended to or not.
He's pretty far down my list of lefties at this point. He makes good videos but he's basically avoided talking leftist politics or even dunking on right wingers for a long time, although I'll say that his stream for the trans youth charity Mermaids remains a legendary online event.
If you want to see his best content, I suggest you scroll back to his videos dunking on The Golden One, Sargon of Akkad, Thunderf00t, and Pick up Artists. IMO the longer and more well researched videos he does now aren't as good and cathartic as the thirty minute ones he got e-famous with.
This was the stuff I preferred too. I vaguely remember the golden one vid being good. Agreed on the shorter form videos. I don't want to watch something for 2 hours unless it has some key insight on systemic phenomena. Same reason I can't enjoy true crime shit. 20-30 min is the sweet spot.
the Death Note seems to work based on what the name-holder believes is "really" their name
Why do you think this? It's been a while since I've seen the original but IIRC there's no reason to think that the name above your head that can be seen by shinigami eyes wouldn't change if you changed it legally.
The names you will see with the eye power of a god of death are the names needed to kill that person. You will be able to see the names even if that person isn't registered in the family registration.
it's not legal name, so presumably it's the name you feel connected to
Yeah I doubt supernatural entities with the power to kill is beholden to human legal documents lol. The requirements are likely more abstract.
In the vein of “supernatural entities with the power to kill being beholden to human legal documents” this is exactly how The Vampire Diaries and its spinoffs handle things.
They follow classic vampire rules like “can’t enter a home without an invitation” and the person doing the inviting has to be the legal occupant (or someone invited by the legal occupant). Multiple times they change the names on deeds and leases to reset who can enter a building.
Yeah True Blood does this too. Eric buys Sookie' house from under her so he can enter freely.
Let me let you in on a secret: My real name is Hexbear. Mods later changed me to Hexbear2 because I was too based. Also to avoid getting death noted.
Never seen Death Note, but get the concept. Does the notebook honor name changes or would you now have two names that could be used to kill you?
Given everyone called L just L but it didn't work it clearly isn't nicknames, and in one of the extracanon works it was made clear someone who started a new life wasn't recognized by their old name in the note, so changing a legal name could probably do it.
GarbageShoot semi-answers this elsewhere in the thread. The mechanics arent 100% clear so some guesswork is necessary. The tumblr post assumed it operates on legal name, but GarbageShoot pointed out that isnt necissarily the case.
I doubt the gods of death care for bureaucracy, so a name on court documents won’t really matter. If you change your name from John to Eric, but everyone still calls you John and you never correct them and you enter your preferred name as John, then cosmically you are still John.
I doubt the gods of death care for bureaucracy
I can’t say for sure about death note but I feel like gods of death in general quite like bureaucracy
the death note fanbase was by far the creepiest I ever organically encountered online in the mid aughts (though admittedly I was less online than many)
