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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Please add to this if you can.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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  • GoroAkechi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It’s always interesting to watch Putin interviews because while he is a committed anti-communist, he still has a materialist analysis of the world. It’s an interesting parallel to how western communists still think like capitalists, due to the ingrained value system taught when they were young

    • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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      2 years ago

      so help me out for a second. a materialist analysis of the world is just the acknowledgment that there is a concrete reality and that whatever my view is is dependent upon my interaction with that concrete reality, right?

      kind of like "we are all the same ego experiencing this same world based upon our own circumstances." or no?

      • VivaZapata [he/him]B
        ·
        2 years ago

        From what I know about materialism yeah basically you're on to something here.

        An idealist lens on the conflict would be that Putin is doing this because he's evil. That's an idealistic belief (that people are just evil and that's why they do things) in contrast to the materialist one where Putin is doing this because he is a product of the conditions of the world and world history.

        • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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          2 years ago

          that's kind of funny. a lot of people accuse us of being idealists. "yeah in a perfect world where people weren't evil, communism would work, but instead gorillions have died." and they are really just completely mistaking the fact that our perspective is that of logic, in that, there are these resources, there is labor to make things happen in society, and the idea of ownership is basically an idealistic (that is, a completely ego driven concept, devoid of material reality) position, which is keeping us in a position where our own materialistic (as in resources, health insurance, a living wage) conditions - are not being met.

      • spectre [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I would describe it a bit differently myself tbh.

        When used as a Marxist it's a contrast with "idealism". An idealist (which isn't really a thing in itself) might think something like "social relations and historical events are driven by the ideas of the people in those societies, and the ideas of their leadership. We can learn a lot about society by focusing on the ideas of the past and present and developing new ones that will set us onto a better future".

        Materialism is along the lines of "social relations and historical events are driven by the material conditions, and when we study these things, we are looking at a snapshot of an ongoing process which lies at the intersection of the material world and society. The ideas held by people are generally secondary to the material conditions in which they occur."

        To bring this together, an example could be one's outlook on the U.S. American economy. Most liberals are idealists, and many believe something like "The United States is a wealthy and powerful country because it has a lot of economic and [negative] political freedom. If we compare it to other countries, many of them are constricted in their development because they don't have the same economic and political structure that we do, but if they did, they would prosper as well. They just need more [liberal] democracy."

        A materialist would say something more like "The United States has a powerful economy because the Europeans brought over advanced tools that allowed them to exploit the mostly untouched land, as well as brutal social structures like slavery and supremacy that allowed them to exploit Indians and labor. The liberal ideas that developed were downstream of this, since it propped up the interests of the powerful and allowed them to continue exploiting, while [free] laborers were often able to find the better opportunity that they were looking for as they immigrated to the New World. The combination of exploitable land and exploitative ideology allowed for centuries of rapid economic growth.

        The United States' economy also benefited greatly from WWII when they increased production without having to suffer losses to their productive capacity like other participants did. They were able to use this advantage to wield their newly powerful position into an exploitative economic relationship with many other countries for the benefit of them and their allies".

        Last thing I'll add is that "material conditions" are exactly what they sound like: geography, weather, technology, the health and wellbeing of people, natural resources etc... since that sometimes gets obfuscated

        • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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          2 years ago

          perhaps i was looking at in more of a philosophical view as opposed to a political view, i suppose. though i thought they should be one and the same.

          • spectre [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I'm not the best with philosophy, but I think they're pretty intertwined.

    • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      This reminds me of what Georg Lukacs said about Balzac’s novels. Balzac’s politics were a cringy longing for the return of feudal valor and virtue. But the realism of his novels despite his politics still “objectively” reflected the state of French bourgeois society, in fact his novels reflected reality even better than the more liberal and progressive Zola (according to Lukacs that is).

      Perhaps the cool-blooded “realists” of the bourgeoisie have a similar effect, compared to the self-deluding liberals. But then on the other hand, the bourgeoisie needs liberalism to delude most people but also “realism” to make sure those in charge aren’t high on their own propaganda. The US has abysmally failed on this latter front

      • jabrd [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The people least effected by the material world are the ones most able to retreat into idealism. Or inversely Matt's treat paradox where a diminishing enfranchisement to politically decide the material conditions forces people into the idealist, superstructural world of understanding. Not sure which came first the chicken or the poverty