I hate the Melvins. Buzz is fucking annoying as a person, and as a songwriter, every album they've ever put out is composed of 1, maybe 2 good songs and the rest filler. Their newer stuff is just butt rock.
Yeah the amount of unironic "rap is cRap except for Eminem, NF, Logic and tom macdonald " I see online and irl is wild
There's also a specific subset of these people who say "rap is not real music" but think that video game and anime soundtracks are the pinnacle of music.
A lot of punk stuff sounds really grating and juvenile listening to it in your thirties.
Regular people don't just sit down in a quiet room to listen to music. Mainly they listen to music while they drive or some other activity. You never listen to music in a room the size of a concert hall. I think this is a big component in evolving tastes. Rap for example sounds better over the car radio on the highway than say jazz. Rock sounds better in the car than opera.
If you took rap back in time and let Mozart hear it, would he recognize it as music? No, because first you'd have to teach him how to drive/play counterstrike.
Architecture has historically been a big influence on the sorts of sounds which are popular. A lot of music nowadays is specifically produced to come out of phones and have a flashy hook (TikTok musicians) or over the radio in a noisy area (stores or cars). Jazz clubs had acoustics that allow you to hear faster and more complicated lines without them all blurring together. A lot of rock in the 80’s was really simple and made to be heard in an arena. A lot of modern metal is basically designed to be blasted through headphones. Have you ever heard techdeath out of a shitty phone speaker from across the room? It’s just a mess of noise
everything i don't like is bad, everything i do like is terrible
"modern music sucks" because you're not interested enough to find any of the good shit
there's fantastic stuff getting made every day but ppl still listen to "80s greatest hits" on repeat
There is so much good music still being made. People don't realize how much the historical perspective of music colors their contemporary opinions. Of course, the last person who told me there's no good music right now loves 311.
R.E.M. were okay but not great, and the people who call them America's greatest band are being ridiculous.
"What kind of music do you listen to?" Is very often a stupid question. There's no common thread between mitski, DEMONDICE, the Oh Hellos, video game soundtracks, anime openings, songs that were popular when I was a freshman, Yes, and King Crimson. You can make links between one or two but there's just no way to describe that.
I just say I like punk, metal, rap, and folk and leave it at that. Feel like theres enough vagueness there that the conversation can turn to more specific "do you like this artist?" type shit
No it isn't. Internet core is a music and aesthetic style designed to emulate the computer noises and looks from the late 90's and early aughts. Very heavily associated with the ENA animation series from Joel G., which I highly recommend.
counterpoint: I saw the Violent Femmes live as part of a music festival, and it is the single worst thing I've ever heard in my life, recorded or live.
Idk I've seen some REALLY boring bands while completely fucked up
agreed. also, bands that just don't bring any energy. I saw Weezer once, and I do like them, but they were so fucking high out of their minds that they just put on a horribly bland show. and I know high is like part of their whole shtick, but like... cmon.
Wait, Weezer playing stoned is a known/big thing for them?
I think so? Certainly, a lot of artists play high/stoned, but like, I think Weezer are known as an especially enthusiastic group of drug users, to the point that it's a central part of their identity. like, broadly, not just in terms of playing while high.
Hyperpop is starting to lose its outsider edge and it’s just going to regress to normal pop eventually unless artists take drastic measures to keep the industry out of it
Hyperpop is artists like Poppy, 100 Gecs, Dorian Electra, Arca. Hyperpop follows the usual standard bright electronic sounds of Pop but turn it up to a degree where it almost becomes a parody of itself, kinda like an impressionist painting. It can be really noisy, obnoxious, chaotic, catchy. I’m probably not the best person to describe it, since I only listen to it sometimes, but it’s like a punk-esque twist on modern pop. While it used to be relatively fringe, it has become super popular recently, which I have no problem with, but I generally have fear for the authenticity and integrity of outsider-ish movements when the music industry starts to notice how much traction they get
My bad lol, I’m tired, I know they’re not the same person I thought I was still listing artists off
It really sucks that SOPHIE isn't around anymore because what she was doing was really great and often different from a lot of what goes on under the label of hyperpop
Not sure if it's that much of a hot take but instrumental music is just as good as music with vocals. And when I listen to music with vocals I don't give a poop about what the singer is saying I just like hearing pretty noises.
Hell yeah, I write instrumental music because I cant sing
Ambient music is one of my favorite genres and probably what I listen to the most at this point since I can put it on during work.
Absolutely, there's a lot of music that I think would be much better if whoever is singing would shut up or if it was in a language I didn't understand.
Yeah I used to really cringe when the intro to the song was over and the dude would start making noises, like no please that was really good, I liked where that was going
Jazz is amazing. Not too many genres that can delve into the bittersweet the way that jazz can. People like prince and parliament are talked about but still not fully appreciated enough for how balls to the wall creative they were. Disco is great and Idk why it took me so long to see how racially motivated burning all the vinyls at a baseball stadium was
Don't give two shits about prince but I'll agree with you on disco. Currently been jamming some Earth Wind Fire.
It's really funny you say that I wouldn't call EWF disco or even anywhere near I don't think they'd think they were disco either, but I guess it depends on the listener to interpret.
Adorno's takes on jazz haven't even aged poorly, they were already ignorant and bad at the time of writing, and that's far from the only thing he got wrong about cultural production. i still think his ideas on the cultural industry are absolutely worth looking into, but they require some heavy revision because he was just some old white cishet dude from Germany who painfully lacked understanding of the popular culture of his time.
Fuck the Beatles, I have never intentionally listened to any of their work and never plan to.
This is a pretty common take nowadays if you know a lot of non-normie people
Hating the beetles is pretty in vogue right now. It’s almost to the point that liking the beetles is the more contrarian take.
if that were true people who don't enjoy their music wouldn't be constantly mobbed by beatles worshippers every time they levy a criticism at them
maybe it's different where you live or in your social circle but most people i've met cannot help but immediately spit in your mouth if you say you don't enjoy their music
There are definitely social media circles where liking the Beatles will get you almost as much flack as hating them.
which is equally bullshit imo, if not for rabid ultra-fans obnoxiously cramming how wonderful they are down my throat i'd take the same stance i do with all subjective experiences: you like that stuff? good. i'm glad. it's not for me but hell yeah.
most people i’ve met cannot help but immediately spit in your mouth if you say you don’t enjoy their music
:hyperflush: gonnna start going around saying the beatles are bad
Nah. My bar for "not normie" is pretty low. Like if you're willing to watch movies with subtitles and your favorite book isn't Harry Potter.
The Beatles music is... fine. It's good pop rock. The fact they became such a cultural phenomenon means that even if they were 10x better they'd still be grossly overrated. People hate wanking over them is about as cringe as people who can't shut up about how Sargent Pepper's Lonely Whatever is the greatest album ever. But saying there overrated is no lie and I don't personally like them very much and get annoyed when people act SHOCKED! SHOCKED I TELL YOU! to hear that.
anyone that thinks the beatles are good is obnoxious and has bad taste though
i'm not. i just don't like their music
and think it sucks. which is not helped by their incredibly rabid fanbasealso lol"objectively excellent" is not something i'd say about literally any art,but go off tigereta: let me try to be less of a dick about this. i just have never enjoyed their music. i don't really like pop music. i loathe being lectured by beatles fans specifically because they treat not liking their favorite band as tantamount to genocide. it's just exhausting and annoying.
yeah this is pretty much the standpoint i try to take with everything i don't like. i think i just find being labeled pretentious and faux-edgy for not liking something to be tiring, particularly when that's about the least hostile fan-interaction you can hope for with beatles fans upon announcing that you don't care for their music
tl;dr i think you're right and i agree with you, i just found the haughty attitude unpalatable
not to sound like a fucking ~ ughh i was born in the wrong generation ~ kid or whatever, but i miss grunge. i fucking love the vibe and the vocals and i get the feeling that that was a good time for music generally
I love all of grunge fashion, tbh. particularly since it, at its core, is a fundamental rejection of fashion. it's like "normcore", but better and more original and less conformist.
if you wear flannel as a "uniform", you're doing grunge wrong.
My dad was part of the grunge scene; he said it was amazing, but obviously with the hubris and ignorance of youth, they didn’t realize what they had until it was gone. To my surprise he, along with presumably many others of his generation, never really made the connection and somewhat evolution of noisy 80s punk rock to the grunge sound/aesthetic(i.e Wipers influence on Kurt Cobain’s lyricism and style). I think that’s a relatively new retrospective insight for a lot of Gen X unless they were really into the scene
All music sucks, all musicians are pretentious weirdos, noise music is 99% boring junk for trust fund kids, "the fascists were right about rock and roll" :the-deserter:, etc.
The fact that so many
all musicians are pretentious weirdos
damn you nailed me
Honestly fuck it, all art sucks, all artists pretentious weirdos, art is 99% boring junk for trust fund kids “puritans were right about humans and art”
