• Rojo27 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Libs/msm: There's only a thousand Nazis in Ukraine

    Libs/msm: Can't find a picture without some sort of Nazi symbol.

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Ive been told Ukraine doesnt have that many Nazis, but somehow every fucking picture tells me otherwise hmmmmm

  • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The Russians have been offering surrender this entire time. When they say "extraction" do they mean some sort of 80s movie-style rescue attempt? What are these women asking for?

    • AlyxMS [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Asking for a tunnel to be dug from Fuhrerbunker to Azovstal.

    • spring_rabbit [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      They want to come out of the tunnels but not give up their arms or surrender, but instead keep fighting. Russia not letting them do this is basically genocide.

      • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I mean they can come out with their weapons and keep fighting if they want... I simply imagine the DPR and Russian troops may elect to fight back. Which is of course, as you say, genocide.

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Azov leaders have been calling for “a new Dunkirk” and want a NATO-lead evacuation to save them. They are completely deluded, and so are their wives apparently

      • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Okay, so they really are just asking NATO to intervene. It's not that Russia rescinded their offer to accept surrender or anything, they're literally saying "please send foreign troops to rescue our husbands who refuse to surrender."

        I get that it's part of the information war, but how is it that western media is being allowed to feign total ignorance of how a war works? It's driving me insane. I found the piece and read it and I'm still confused.

  • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    if russia gave me the chance to surrender every few days, I would simply take it

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      We should crowdfund a leaflet drop that just says "FOLLOW YOUR LEADER"

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Some kind of “protest” to call for things the government wants to do anyway.

      “Win this war!”

      “Fight the Russians!”

      “Less tactical defeats!”

      Isn’t the point of protest to go against the government and get them to change their mind? What’s the point in protesting for the things they already were gonna try to do?

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        To maintain the international narrative and feed the spectacle. Protest as spectacle is nothing new.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Displays of being FOR something are a good sign of being organised. The Cuban people for example doing displays in support of the government. These are carried out by orgs and are demonstrations of being organised and having support at a local or mass level more so than they are protests.

            Unions and communist orgs will do them when they start to realise their benefits and gain the resources for them.

      • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        It's not directed at the Ukrainian government, it's directed at the rest of the world.

        They're protesting the lack of military intervention from other countries I guess, they're perfectly in agreement with their own government.

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Any protest appealing to other nations to do something is sus. You protest your own government or not at all. You don’t go on cheerleading events for imperialists

  • Torenico [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Couple of years ago western media was like "yeah there a bunch of problematic nazis in the armed forces of Ukraine, here's a 25 minute documental about them". Now they're just rooting for them jesus christ, lol, lmao even, it's clear they forgot the key part about them: BEING NAZIS.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Russia has also sought to portray the Azovstal soldiers as far-right extremists. Some of the soldiers holed up in the steel plant are members of the Azov Regiment, which is a unit of the Ukrainian National Guard. It got its start as a volunteer battalion, founded in 2014 by far-right nationalists. But many of these extremists left after the battalion joined the armed forces, says Polina Beliakova, a research associate at the Center for Strategic Studies at Tufts University who has studied Ukraine's volunteer battalions. She says the Azov Regiment currently includes fighters with diverse political views and ethnic backgrounds.

    "if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis."

    Also, remember like two fucking months ago when Putin was going to use poison gas any minute? I guess he just didn't have any handy.

    • Puggo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      But many of these extremists left after the battalion joined the armed forces...

      Oooooh, well that's perfectly understandable! Wait. Hold on. If all these "far right extremists" left, why has nobody changed the official unit emblem to get rid of the Nazi Wolfsangel???

      • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It's always a good idea to trust the fascists when they tell you "were totally not fascists UwU"

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I'm sure they just found a bunch of wolfsangel and sonnenrad patches lying around and thought they looked cool. Their buddies probably pranked them with a prominent swastika tattoo while they were passed out.

        It's funny because the press could just say "These guys are Nazis but cooperation with them fulfills US foreign policy objectives. Sometimes we have to work with people we don't like." But instead they piss in your face and tell you it's raining.

        • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Admitting that nazis fulfill our policy objectives would be pulling the curtain back a little too far

    • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      The Russians just ran out of poison gas because they're so dumb that's why.

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Russia has also sought to portray the Azovstal soldiers as far-right extremists.

    Hey NPR whats that symbol on their flag mean?

    edit: added a link. Several of the liberals in my life had no idea, so it's possible you :LIB:s may not either!