shoutout to that one guy here who lost his shit about pumpkin coffee and spammed alts with cartoon names heiling hitler

  • Lilith [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Shitposting this as a feminist that genuinely loves men and wants to see them liberated alongside women.

    The first act of violence the patriarchy commits is forcing men to emotional harm themselves and view compassion and empathy as weakness.

    Masculinity genuinely has a lot to love about it and viewing it as inherently always bad is a reactionary viewpoint leftover from 2nd wave feminism. That same reductionist thinking also lead chunks of that movement into becoming TERFs.

    There is, of course, a lot of toxicity that men need to work through and that is part of what makes patriarchy systemically efficient. Patriarchy couldn’t perpetuate misogyny as a form of control if it didn’t first warp and hijack masculinity.

    • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      GOOD post.

      Feminism helps men just as much as it does women, and patriarchy is actively harmful to nearly everyone except for those at the very top.

      • Lilith [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        YES! This! The path to liberation brings everyone on it.

        Well except for the capitalists… the path of liberation generally tends to be paved with the bodies of the capitalist class.

        • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          The path to liberation brings everyone on it.

          "The rising of the women brings the rising of the race" - from Bread and Roses

          • jabrd [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            This just made me realize I learned the phrase from the songs not the original poem because I know it as “the rising of the women means the rising of us all”

    • jabrd [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Virtually all of the personal growth I've gone through as an individual has included deprogramming some toxic aspect of machismo in one form or another. I know it's preaching to the choir on this site but it can't be said enough that feminism is a humanism and its promotion benefits us all :feminism:

      • DickFuckarelli [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Fucking agreed.

        All of my shitty social or interpersonal flaws stem from toxic masculinity which I had to dismantle brick by brick. First, by rejecting the systemic pressures placed on me as a man (basically fuck off if you think I should care about football or Metallica or anything else that makes the bros feel tough). And then, allowing others to define themselves around me as they see fit.

        I tell people, especially dudes, all the time, rejecting the patriarchy will directly make you a happier person and easier to be around because there's so much shit you don't have to worry about.

        • Lilith [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          because there’s so much shit you don’t have to worry about

          FUCK. YES. there is so much performative shit you men have to deal with what the fuck

    • StuporTrooper [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Masculinity genuinely has a lot to love about it and viewing it as inherently always bad is a reactionary viewpoint leftover

      Love this. Feminists have been able to capture femininity and turn it into something positive. A good woman in the 1800s was a narrow scope, either mothers or maidens. Now strong women in the popular culture can be virtually anything. Men need to do the same thing with masculinity, reshape the ideal so we can empower each other not at the expense of women or non-binary. Masculinity that loves our LGBTQ+ friends and supports emotional maturity.

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        • CTHlurker [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The funniest part is that everyone can pretty much instantly tell if you're an actually masculine person, or if you're doing weird performative shit. Shit like taking ground beef as a snack to see The Northman sticks out like a sore thumb precisely because everyone can see how fucking dumb it is. And Peterson nearly getting killed by his own daughter while trying to detox from Benzos is also just :chefs-kiss:

      • Lilith [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        The most masculine dude I know is literally a gay trans man. He is fucking ✨brawny✨

        :panting:

    • CTHlurker [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Legit seen better advice for men from feminist Instagram, than from every single fucking "mindset" or "motivational" guy on there. It's maddening how much money there is in telling men "you're shit, get better by buying my book", rather than anything actually useful.

  • Tapirs10 [undecided,she/her]
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    2 years ago

    See, according to patriarchal conditioning anger isn't an emotion. That's why screaming in rage about how women are so emotional is totally not contradictory.

    • Lilith [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      lol lmao

      :stupidpol: “the females are weak because they do not ruminate on violent intrusive thoughts… but also they are demons of endless spite and malice”

      edit: brb gonna legally name my tits “spite and malice” (malice is slightly bigger than spite)

      • kristina [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        is it just me or are left boobs always bigger than right boobs :thinkin-lenin:

        • buh [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          if just means you're a true leftist

        • jabrd [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Mentally recreating lying in bed with my partner to remember if it’s the closer or further side that’s bigger

        • Kuori [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          i remember hearing it's because of proximity to the heart but that sounds like pseudo-science now that i'm repeating it to someone else

          idk i'm not a titty doctor

        • Lilith [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          :thinking-about-it: it’s not just you

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Male sexist temper tantrums are honestly fucking hilarious when they're not physically near me. Real baby brained stuff.

    • Lilith [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      They’re amazing and when they’re over harmless things like not being able to find parking or losing a game I’m all:

      :meow-popcorn:

      When some dudes say shit like “women are too emotional to be leaders” I’m like:

      :huh:

      Men have emotions! Having emotions is a good thing! You just have to process them in a healthy way!

      • kristina [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I've personally found men to be far more emotional than women. Women are more likely to cry, sure, I'll give you that it def seems hormonal, but an angry guy will rage for fuckin hours and sometimes even destroy or attack shit. Basically a wild animal.

        • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I think a lot of men just have no idea how to process any emotion other than anger, so they let all of it out through bursts of anger

        • Lilith [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          crying is over in 5-10 minutes though. An angry dude will meltdown for an entire night

          • kristina [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Fr. I have cried longer than that though with PTSD but other stuff yeah

            • Lilith [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              yeah, deeper cries aside.

              :heart-sickle: :meow-hug:

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      2 years ago

      That's what happens when we live in patriarchy, comrade. Although obviously women and other genders have it worse, men get the most insidious scares placed in us, preemptively interfering in our relationships to recreate patriarchy through us. At least now that you have noticed it you can work on it, overcome it, and try to stop it from happening to others.

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I stopped doing so much shit I enjoyed because of passing comments and minor ridicule from peers and adults and for the longest time I thought it was because I was weak or easily influenced. Now I realized I was just 5 years old and having a weak ego is part of being 5. Patriarchy will literally bully children and then convince them to blame themselves for it

  • RION [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    pumpkin spice coffee is goated and doing the "haha silly womens and their PSL!!" bit past like 13 is pure :cringe:

  • Lilith [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    really good “feminism for babies” effort post by @Owl : https://hexbear.net/post/31010

    • Lilith [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      oh fuck was that the cartoon? I thought it was aquateen hungerforce or some shit. That’s even better

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I think it deteriorated into every old Hannah Barbara property eventually, for some reason.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      2 years ago

      I don't get it either. A bit of chuckling over "women and their pumpkin spice" I get. It's still a little sexist but more just a little humor about a trend(women do be drinking psl). But the absolute rage and fury some men are filled with? That's just high-level misogyny. It is completely nonsensical and just another form of :frothingfash:

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        If you're gonna rage about coffee, you should rage about all coffee and the international exploitation machine that harvests and makes it.

    • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      it's because it's not manly, you see, all that fancy stuff is not real coffee

      the only way true men drink coffee is by chewing the coffee beans, get outta here with your girly stuff like cardamom, cinnamon, sugar, milk, and water

        • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I had terrible heart palpitations from eating too many chocolate covered coffee beans on time. I learned my lesson

    • Tapirs10 [undecided,she/her]
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      2 years ago

      It's a feminine coded thing for some reason. Idk why but there is the stereotype of white women and their pumpkin spice. Therefore sexist gets mad about it

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    • Lilith [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      jackolantern trauma maybe? fuck if I know

  • StuporTrooper [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "The patriarchy is a smog we all breathe" - Marguerite French I think

    • Lilith [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      There are literally dozens of us posting these dunk threads on patriarchy.

      Dozens. Of. Us.

    • Lilith [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      no I read a completely deranged twitter thread when I woke up and was like

      :wut:

  • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]M
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    2 years ago

    lmao what the fuck did i miss this time?

    I've been busy the last 4 days moving into my new place because moving is very hard when its just two people that have a 4 month old baby.