https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1775754564727341345

    • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      It's so sad regardless. Either he's really dumb or he's really dumb and also bad at jokes.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        That was Andy Ngo, a completely different reactionary twitter user.

          • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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            Ian Miles Cheong lives in fucking Malaysia and has never even visited the US, yet he's absolutely obsessed with American culture warring on Twitter.

              • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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                He's like that Nick (Alpha Male) guy, simps for America, is an Australian Greek man who kept using taxpayer money to go to America as a motivational speaker. He used to be the deputy mayor of Ashfield, Sydney.

            • keepcarrot [she/her]
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              One of my friends knew him at a local (in Malaysia) Sci fi book club and apparently he's just always been like this

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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          Really shows how long ago Ngo's 15 minutes of fame ran out when this isn't even the first time someone on Hexbear confused him with Cheong, lol.

    • @SSJ2Marx
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      3 months ago

      Internet clout chasing like this always makes me feel bad for the person doing it. It's like I'm watching a medieval court jester.

  • Angel [any]
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    Haven't you heard? PEMDAS is the latest disruption being pushed by the woke agenda.

    • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      You joke but maybe this amorphous reactionary movement is just anti-enlightenment, ultimately

      • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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        Reactionaries fucking hate math education and are always freaking out that they dont understand their kid's homework.

        • keepcarrot [she/her]
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          3 months ago

          I'm probably not the best person to judge, but what's changed with kids maths homework? Were these parents good at maths when they were in school?

          • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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            AFAIK it's basically just that math education has been moving more advanced concepts earlier and earlier at least as an optional course. Like calculus has gone from a post-grad level thing to a normal college course to something people can elect to take in high school, algebra went from college level material to normal high school level stuff that people start getting introduced to in middle school, etc.

            But also a lot of people struggle with the most basic things in high school, graduate, then forget all of the incomplete-understanding they had by the time they have kids. It's very likely that adults who are baffled and enraged at seeing some basic algebra problem also struggled with math in school and are embarrassed and frustrated that their skills have only gotten worse since then, on top of the possibility that they never even got to algebra when they were in school and instead went through the remedial math track that maybe reaches basic pre-algebra material in their senior year.

            • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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              We should be teaching linear algebra before calculus, because the concepts are genuinely more relevant and teach you how to see systems of equations differently.

              • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]
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                I'd argue that stats should come before either of those. A basic course in statistics would be enormously helpful to most people in navigating and understanding the modern world. It's much more likely to be relevant to daily life for the average person than calculus or linear algebra. Basic calculus--especially differential equations--is certainly enormously useful for understanding the natural world, but statistics is relevant everywhere, and even a lot of math/science people never get any instruction on it.

            • keepcarrot [she/her]
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              Ideally, they should be proud their kids know more than them. But that ain't parents (at least these ones).

          • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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            Things like number construction to get kids to understand how numbers work rather than just memorizing that 7+5=12.

            So they will now teach kids that 7+5 can be rewritten as (5+2)+5 which can then be turned into 5+5+2=12.

            It's no different than when parents threw a massive fit about "new math" in the 60's when kids learned how to "borrow" from the 10's place to do subtraction like 62-8

      • @Sons_of_Ferrix
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        Genuinely I think they are. Their weird pseudo-anti-capitalism actually just strikes me as anti-modernism. The bourgeois are too woke for them they want to go back the feudal production run by an aristocracy.

        • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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          My Albanian friend was telling me that AfD was making some sense by claiming that the Nazis were not “real” Germany and that it was actually a constitutional monarchy that represented true Germany. bruh-moment

          So yes. At face value they are pro feudal

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      PEMDAS

      Oh yeah? Well if PEMDAS isn't woke then why are pronouns put in PARENTHESES, the number of illegal immigrants is always EXPONENTIALLY increasing, the number of genders keeps MULTIPLYING, traditional family units are DIVIDED, they're ADDING homosexual ideology to schools whole SUBTRACTING God?!

      • drowns [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        put down the lathe of heaven right now... im gonna see this exact comment in a Facebook screenshot at some point this year.

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      I kind of hate PEMDAS because multiplication and division are the same thing (division is multiplication by the reciprocal) and addition and subtraction are the same thing (subtraction is addition of the negation). moreover, multiplication and addition are commutative with themselves. so it should really be PEMA. lastly, if it's fucking ambiguous in any way, don't write it that way. just use parentheses. the notation that puts divisors in the denominator completely disambiguates everything.

      just learn what associativity, commutativity, and the distribution law are in the first place and you'll understand why something like PEMDAS exists. it's a notational trick to make it clear where those laws can be applied. when you leave the realm of numbers, some or all of these laws will stop applying and you need to still learn how to calculate the answer. matrices don't have commutative multiplication and if it won't associate, stop and find a different way to solve a different way to solve your problem because nope nope nope nope (fucking programmers breaking associativity in binary operations because "math is hard" - no bitch, what's hard is trying to work out what the hell your operation does).

      in summary, PEMDAS is liberalism and fuck javascript.

      • Zezzy [she/her]
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        We were taught PEMDAS as parentheses, exponentiation, multiplication OR division, addition OR subtraction. I don't know if it was changed at some point but I don't know anyone who was taught that multiplication comes before divison

        • silent_water [she/her]
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          I'm talking about the implied ordering from the name. I'm saying there's no sense in including division or subtraction at all because they're not actually different from multiplication or subtraction and we're better off teaching the underlying laws in the first place.

      • xj9 [they/them, she/her]
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        3 months ago

        After learning BQN, I have a hard time remembering the traditional order of operation kitty-birthday-sad

        I gotta do more math homework..

        • silent_water [she/her]
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          take more algebra, start getting confused every time you see small numbers, wondering what the modulus is supposed to be.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    My man Ian doing his best to dispell the stereotype that all Asian people are good at math.

  • TheDialectic [none/use name]
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    This is literally a boomer Facebook meme. Someone would post it and they would all do the math in diffrent ways and get diffrent wrong answers because they have been out of school long enough to forget it

    • Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml
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      At least those ones spark a mildly interesting conversation about implicit multiplication and why we have the order of operations. Ian's version is just silly and rather sad

    • neo [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      Assuming they ever learned it in the first place, of course.

      • TheDialectic [none/use name]
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        We all learned it. We have all forgotten plenty of thr stuff we haven't kept up practicing. It is their unwillingness to accept that they could be wrong and lead posion lack of creative thinking that is the mind killer here

        • neo [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          I think for many people that is true, but for someone like Ian Cheong I do not give him the benefit of the doubt.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    This is a setup for some sort of "liberal media can't even tell I'm joking and that's why you should only trust articles written by me" sort of nonsense

    • Hexagons [e/em/eir]
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      I honestly hope it's that, legitimately. The alternative is too depressing

  • D61 [any]
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    Mis-order of Operations kelly

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    I mean this has to be a troll right? I know he's a dipshit but everyone can make a good post periodically especially if you post this much

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    3 months ago

    The Apple calculator sucks because it has fucking ads. Nothing worse than doing a quick calculation and having to wait 15 seconds for some mobile game ad to finish.

    • @robinn_IV
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      You’re cooked, go factory reset your phone

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        It’s on the iPads that the ads appear. My phone doesn’t have that problem. I just chalked it up to it being older and rarely updated.

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          iPads have never had the Apple calculator app, so at some point you've downloaded a third party app that shows ads.

    • jaywalker [they/them]
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      3 months ago

      Wait, really? People pay that much for a phone to watch ads on a calculator app?

      • neo [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        No. The calculator on iphones doesn't have ads.

      • nothx [any]
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        No. This comment isn’t factual.