I was very wrong about Kanye's revolutionary potential.

Horrifically, disastrously wrong.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    If you like Hitler follow his example. Shoot yourself in the fucking head and join him in hell.

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I was very wrong about Kanye’s revolutionary potential.

    not to rub salt in the wound, but what made you think a billionaire rapper with a sweatshop shoe brand and a history of Nationalist lyrics (Jesus Walks) and Antisemitic lyrics (St. Pablo) had "revolutionary potential?"

      • HamManBad [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        We're all suckers for assuming he meant that as a bad thing

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Kayne has a really uh, unique shtick nowadays in which he will be like "White supremacy good" and then deflect pushback like "hey I have a unique perspective as a black man and you're doing a cultural erasure on me"

        • BeamBrain [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          and then deflect pushback like “hey I have a unique perspective as a black man and you’re doing a cultural erasure on me”

          Identity politics and its consequences

        • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I would like to point out that this maneuver is and has been known as the "Uncle Ruckus".

        • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          He won't even say that. He'll shout incoherently for about twelve seconds and then storm out with a hand full of cookies.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        What he probably meant was himself. "Black people" as himself, as the only black person that matters and needs more power and adoration.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      There's also the "YeCosystem" cult compound being planned.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    In all seriousness it's getting pretty scary how mainstream fascism is now. Kanye is only amplifying and normalizing this shit acting as a puppet for Nick Fuentes.

    • MarxistKanye [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      If all it takes for fascism to become mainstream is a couple of wealthy people publicly platforming other nazis, then your society was never meaningfully anti-fascist to begin with.

      • AHopeOnceMore [he/him]B
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        2 years ago

        US society and the plans and acts of its ruling class (indigenous genocide, slavery, etc) were huge inspirations to Nazis and German white nationalists generally, who built their colonies in Africa around this and some similar genocidal approaches by the UK. They expanded and analogized them as part of their plans for gaining and wielding power, especially in defining their race science and settler-colonial plans for Slavic peoples. The US has never been meaningfully anti-fascist, more like constantly quasi-fascist or nebulously ur-fascist, just lacking an impetus to condense around a particular "anti-establishment" fascist movement in response to a crisis of capitalism. The existing apparatuses, which are still fashy in essence (anti-left, anti-worker, anticommunist) quell those crises and suppress the left prior to any congealed fascist response.

        • MarxistKanye [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          yes. the US is a country founded on slavery and settler-colonialism. Lebensraum is just an iteration of manifest destiny. that was my point.

    • mimeschoolprof [he/him,comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      People for real don't understand just how fucked this is. Kanye will just get away with this shit as we slide further and further into the pit of despair.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I first heard about him during the "Imma let you finish" moment.

      I'm glad I never started.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      People rave about it but I don't really like it. Like it's ok. I heard some recent stuff is conservative

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      "He's a good producer but the rest... I dunno" has never been a less milk like take.

  • dead [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is more than just one clip. Kanye praised the Nazis and Hitler for over 2 hours.

  • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "I'm not trying to be shocking. I like hitler. The holocaust is not what happened. We need to look at the actual history" - Kanye West.

    He tried to couch this with "I'm starting from the Bible, I love everyone", but you don't get to say 'the holocaust isn't what happened, but i'm only saying that i love hitler as a christian'

  • MarxistKanye [none/use name]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    Here is Kanye having a conversation with a prop "Bibi Netanyahu" he brought with him: https://streamable.com/8ity8y

    He gives Netanyahu an elmo voice for some reason and also blamed him for "taking away my family".

    Unbelievably, this is one of the more tame parts of the interview.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      So strange to be staring at a guy acting crazy and right over there is literally Alex Fucking Jones sitting there like "yeah lol this is some shit"

    • regul [any]
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      2 years ago

      A new divorced dad for our new era.

  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    i had a long :matt: rant written but i didn't like it.

    not sure if i'm just seeing things but i get the feeling this new fascism that is developing in response to the collapse of neoliberalism is going to be so, so different then the stuff that came in response to a rising left and disintegration of global financial capital v 1.0.

    it's still capitalism in decay but it feels like it's going to be fed from the top this time and not even pretend to be a mass movement.

    it's going to be cold, mechanistic, and may even pretend to be post-racialist. kayne, elon, and trump are just paving the way. i don't even think this shit has really started yet.

      • Des [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        i guess i'm more thinking they won't elevate someone to be a charismatic puppet. either they will personally do it or run it in an oligarchical structure. you'll get some billionaire mussolini or a technocratic cadre of billionaire mussolinis

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I'm drunk and can't remember which British writer said it (it'll probably end up being a Tony Benn quote) but it was said that fascism would not goosestep into power in England, but arrive with a tip of the bowler hat.

      In the modern-US it'll certainly be some maddening social-media melting pot of incongruous individualism.

      • SaniFlush [any, any]
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        2 years ago

        Business as usual to a depressing degree.

        At least we know what the opposite of extreme individualism is, so we can do the opposite of it.

      • Des [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        yeah the U.S. will spawn the first libertarian fascist. i mean yeah same diff but they won't even conceal it under some BS freedom ideology it will be just: hey ingroup you can live as rugged individual pioneers with no government after we deathcamp 85% of the country

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      it’s still capitalism in decay but it feels like it’s going to be fed from the top this time and not even pretend to be a mass movement.

      It's going to be narcissistic celebrity influencers giving literal marching orders to their subscribers. :agony-4horsemen:

    • M68040 [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Gonna get even worse when it collapses into infighting, i bet. Shit sucks

  • MarxistKanye [none/use name]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    When Alex Jones sounds like the sanest person in the room, you have massively fucked up.

    • MarxistKanye [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Nevermind, Alex Jones only sounds good in the context of that clip. About a minute before this he claimed the British created Hitler to serve the interests of the Jewish Mafia.

  • Phish [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    I gotta admit, it is kind of funny watching these psychos interview Kanye and get uncomfortable when he says the quiet part out loud. Like, there are probably plenty of people watching these interviews because they like Alex Jones or Tim Pool or whoever and get disappointed when they're like "uh no Kanye, I won't come out and agree with you that Nazis are cool"

    • MarxistKanye [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I think Fuentes has genuinely convinced him. Ye is deeply unwell and clearly manic, but also having a mental health crisis does not turn people into a nazi, so fuck him.

      Alex Jones finally experiencing what it's like to interview Alex Jones is one of the most horrifyingly surreal moments of 2022.

  • Upanotherday [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :what-the-hell:

    It is so much worse then all the short random clips make it out to be. Its literally hours of him praising nazis while Alex trys to give him some kind of life raft to step back from his completely batshit statements.

  • MarxistKanye [none/use name]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    Kanye was wearing a net over his face as a "net and yoohoo" joke about Isreali leader Benjamin Netanyahu.

    • MarxistKanye [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      He literally had a yoohoo with him on camera: https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/ufNwj5IPjO.jpg

      :cringe:

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Nazis sure love their coded messages. You could say that they're into virtue signaling. :heated-gamer-moment:

        • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          They're too dumb for anything subtle though. Thinking about the stupid 'fren' shit, and whatever the sub was where they talked about an appliance using it (I think it was an air conditioner?) as a stand in for Jews

  • Hohsia [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Knew someone who was about to get married until her bipolar boyfriend randomly threatened to kill her and her dog

    Kanye is very proudly unmedicated, and I guarantee this shit wouldn’t be happening if he was

    • blight [any]
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      2 years ago

      I'm don't know what's going on inside his brain, but everything about his life has led him to this state. Being surrounded by sycophants for decades and then getting divorced messily in public would mess most people up I think.