Well because uhmm. Gamers just use it ironically you know. Free speech. Elon Musk help me, they want to persecute gamers. Gamers.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    G*mers are some of the worst maladjusted edgelord idiots you can find online. "It's for historical accuracy!" they plead while insisting that they add swastika decals to War Thunder and shit like that. Just fuck off you manbabies. The Iron Cross is problematic as is. Just enjoy you get that one. Stop looking the gift horse in the teeth.

    The only good thing about white supremacist nazi gamers is that they are uniformly a bunch of stupid dipshits. I remember one playing coy and quoting the whole "Black people are X% of the population yet Y% of the prison population!" and other racist dogwhistles thinking he was clever. So I kept making fun of him and calling him out and baiting him until he finally snapped, called me a "N-word loving F-word" and the slurs triggered an automod and he got banned from the server. Womp womp, loser.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It’s for historical accuracy!

      Okay, well your Tiger's transmission just broke down for the fifth time this month. The nearest spares are in a depot in Colonge that just got lit up by an air raid. The Soviet 5th Guards tank army will likely attack at dawn after a four hour saturation barrage.

      Here's two rounds for your luger and a cyanide capsule. Do the fatherland prould, landser.

  • neo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    there are a couple of good things about valve: they seriously fund linux-based development to help make games no longer the sole domain of Windows and they outright said "nah" to NFTs.

    but when you go into the community section of the website... good lord they just let that shit fester. also they really allow some very questionable games to get published, so their storefront is filled with trash of all kinds.

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      and they outright said “nah” to NFTs.

      Considering TF2 hats this seems much more a case of not wanting competition instead of standing for anything at all

        • 7bicycles [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          basically everything monetized valve "Invented" is NFTs. Except the schmucks didn't even invent them, gear trading via real money was going on within WoW for a decade before they did it.

        • neo [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          no, because they don't go through the energy intensive minting process, and inflate the prices of GPUs which prevents me from buying one 😡

      • neo [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Valve could have implemented a blockchain based record of the cosmetics for their own games (i.e. NFTs), or even gone as far as to recreate a games ownership/resale system based on the concept... so the seriousness of them disallowing that altogether shouldn't be understated. Other game companies were flirting with this idea very seriously just a year ago.

    • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I opened steam store today and one of the first things that showed up was a game called Sex With Hitler 2 and I just looked at it for a second and then closed steam

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      TF2 may have been ground zero for cosmetics and the lootbox

      Still don't have complaints about Steam as a storefront and way to run games though. It just puts the files on your hard drive and lets you fuck with them (unless the developer is a dickhead and puts Denuvo in their game). Compare this to the Microsoft Store- The Master Chief Collection recently got mod support for the PC... but only on the Steam version. The same goes for most other games with mods.

      To be fair, this is less because of Valve being great but because of everyone else sucking. I also like GOG but their selection is more limited and tend to use that mostly for old games

        • kristina [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          anything cool valve does is just because newell is an eccentric techbro and likes linux. as soon as newell dies that shit is going away

          • wwiehtnioj [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Newell got rich as an early microsoft employee, Valve supports linux because they got scared they would be sidelined when microsoft launched the windows app store

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        GoG enabled me to replay the original Alone in the Dark from 1992, and as an added bonus, it was the rerelease version I had as a kid with the added woman protagonist and the little bonus game "Jack" where you played as a little girl dressed as a witch who needs to rescue Santa from a bunch of malicious toys. I fucking loved that game. It was my intro to Lovecraft. There's no actual HP Lovecraft text in it but the whole deal is steeped in Lovecraftian shit. Also it had all those old bullshit mechanics that games used to have, like an evil spellbook that kills you if you read it. Like if you read it at all you just die lmao. Kid me was so mad when that happened.

        • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I love buying weird or obscure old games from GOG since I get to play them without my Steam friends asking me why I'm playing the Xbox Indiana Jones game

          • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I got drunk as a lord and tried to buy Terror From The Deep a while back just purely out of nostalgia but I was too drunk to remember my login and then woke up the next morning going "thank god, I hated that game"

        • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          There is no reason a PC game has to use Steam. To reach a console audience you have no choice but to give that 30 percent to PS or Xbox.

          Steam has features that does not help a specific game that players like to use, like game streaming, library sharing, remote play together. Which is why a player might prefer Steam to Origin let's say

            • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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              2 years ago

              There is no reason to exclusively be on Steam. But yeah a game not launching on Steam probably won't get popular unless has a giant company like Activision or Riot behind it.

              Epic has spent many millions of exclusives but even after 2 years does not have some of the features Steam has so I'll only use it if they literally give me a game for free (which happens often)

              If possible I get games on Itch.io or GOG for DRM free copies

        • bigboopballs [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          unless you thoroughly reformat and factory reset your PC

          how do they ensure that?

      • Grebgreb [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Compare this to the Microsoft Store- The Master Chief Collection recently got mod support for the PC… but only on the Steam version. The same goes for most other games with mods.

        This is not true, the windows store version always supported mods. I have played a modified b30 I made and Vadam's Reach campaign without any hassle. What is true is that the mod tools are all needlessly locked to steam (with only Halo 1a's tools being free) and with support for the steam modding thing this just means mods are going to be locked to steam for no reason if the mod makers don't upload anywhere else, as is the case for Zomboid and probably a bunch of other games. If literally any other platform did this they would be rightfully ripped to shreds, yet for some reason everyone gives this shitty company a pass.

        It just puts the files on your hard drive and lets you fuck with them

        That's the case with Gog and Epic. Installing mods on Kenshi and Bannerlord respectively is just a case of dragging mods to the specific folder. This has to do with drm in the game and not the platform.

        Still don’t have complaints about Steam as a storefront

        I do. Steam is always consistently fucking awful to use and used to crash explorer relatively consistently when I used it. Never had any problems with any other launcher, including the ubisoft one.

        • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          From what I understand, the Microsoft Store versions of Bethesda games do not allow you to use .dll script extenders. AFAIK you can't do the required hex editing on the game .exe to unlock Control's dummied out PS4 exlusive content either. That was the sort of stuff I was referring to

          Oh yeah, now that you mentioned it, I did remember one thing I don't like- the Steam Workshop, mainly on games I've pirated (Though you can still download the mods on there through unofficial means) I also don't like the "subscription" model it uses. I remember a scenario where a mod author ragequit a community, but before leaving they pushed an update that totally wiped their mods for every user. Very cool!

          I just haaaaaaaaate all the different Xbox Apps and their ugly console slash mobile phone design. As for the others, I've got decades of shit on Steam already, I just don't want to bother with other launchers. I wouldn't want to install another browser for a specific website either.

          In an ideal world you'd take the good features from Steam and put them into some kind of open source thing

        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Steam is always consistently fucking awful to use and used to crash explorer relatively consistently when I used it. Never had any problems with any other launcher, including the ubisoft one.

          Weird. Steam is awful, but I've found that it's tied with Epic for "at least it actually works and is basically functional" as far as launcher/storefronts go. The Microsoft Store/Gamepass, Uplay, and Origin are all some level of "does not even function as a storefront on a basic level and/or is completely broken."

    • Grebgreb [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      :this: Death to valve and steam. They also tried to monetize mods and it's a gamble if mod makers decide to lock their mods to steam, nexus mods and the like are bad enough yet no one ever brings up how atrocious it is to have mods only available to a fucking storefront, and a dogshit one at that.

      • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        They also tried to monetize mods

        Holy shit, I've completely forgotten about that debacle!

        nexus mods and the like are bad enough

        What's wrong with them? They seem pretty neutral as far as a mod hosting platform goes ie. I click the download button I get the mod

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Answer: because actually moderating user-generated content of any sort, even forum posts, is only ever a drain on finances. There's no way to make it profitable. So instead they spend as little as possible, offloading much of the work to algorithms that are triggered by keywords or user reporting. It invariably fucks up. But they don't care. They saved money.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Given the alternative - Facebook paying random bastards piecework wages to stare at gore images for hours every day - I'm torn as to what the better solution is supposed to be.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The only way to get moderation is to make it a requirement to play at all, aka the Chinese Internet method.

    • wwiehtnioj [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      they don't even do anything about the mask off overt nazis that I report and that I know several other people have reported.

  • Comp4 [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I think its fair to mention it wasnt just Valve that got a letter but Activision, , EA and other top gaming companies got one to explain what they're doing about the rise in hate and extremism in online games.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    Would have been cute if Newell had responded with the vast amount of white supremacy in the US Senate.

  • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Steam's forums and user galleries are kind of a toilet generally

    The screenshots section for any Japanese game is just going to be closeups of butts, panties and cleavage

  • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Hey lady you're a senator right? Maybe do something about it

  • keepcarrot [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Damn, couldn't gamers ironically joke about being communists? spits

  • cawsby [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    [CW: Hitler having sex]

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2194810/SEX_with_HITLER_2/