• clover [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Owned

    Also this is only the second time I’ve seen the reaction to Last of Us 2 brought up as a comparison but fuck you

    Nerds were mad about Last of Us because a girl with big arms killed off their video game dad. In what universe is that comparable to Rowling’s bullshit? Fucking please [redacted] yourselves, assholes. Sick of this both sides shit.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    based. lmao, why are you streaming it and donating to trevor project at the same time? just fuckin donate to the trevor project and play something else

    i love how people are saying 'noo dont harass her shes a good bean'. no, you should absolutely harass people making dogshit decisions like this. especially when we know you had to have gotten the game straight from the devs (who know that you streaming it is a net positive for them) or buying it

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Various groups on reddit are trying to pin this as being a r/gamingcirclejerk brigade. There are a shit load of ops going on right now.

    There have been no posts or comments on gcj encouraging this behaviour, nothing that would have caused a brigade, nothing at all.

    From what I can tell this either came from elsewhere or was a completely organic situation where their own community of pro-lgbt people turned against them for playing the terf game. If you see people trying to claim this was a brigade, push back against it and make sure people understand that it's not at all surprising that a woke streamer with a pro-lgbt community might get a lot of negativity from their audience for playing the terf game.

    • Goblinmancer [any]
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      2 years ago

      Between this whole TERF game situation, the backlash against said boycott, as well as Trump call for trans genocide, I feel like there's a huge astroturfed push against trans rights in general, and these transphobic movements continue to be more extreme over time.

      I remember that it started with "should trans woman be allowed in sports" bs debates, then it's about bathrooms whatever, and now we reached the point where people openly call for trans people to just not exist/to be forced to detransition.

  • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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    2 years ago

    I know they were doing a fundraiser for the Trevor Project alongside this stream but that's really not enough to justify playing it. You can raise money for LGBTQ+ causes without also giving money to a bigot AND giving them free advertising! Play a different, better game for fucks sake! I have no idea why they're so surprised at the backlash.

    • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      they were doing a fundraiser for the Trevor Project alongside this stream

      :liberalism:

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Assume they have a large enough fan base that they're relatively insulated from criticism and have started to enjoy the smell of their own farts. "Streaming the TERF game sounds like a great idea!"

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I've always wondered. Is the Trevor Project actually a good charity? I'm always kind of suspicious of charities that are the most visable one if its kind because of Autism Speaks and Susan G Komen being awful.

    • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      2 years ago

      People are going to stream it anyway, and people who want to watch someone play Harry Potter are going to watch it. It was already the best selling game on steam just off pre-sales.

      Pro-trans streamers using it to promote trans issues and provide material support to trans people is better than that same audience just going to some streamer who doesn't.

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I don't know, find it a bit hypocritical that people do this and are rightfully angry at JKR, then most likely go on to play overwatch and call of duty. The games made by Activision blizzard, you know, the company so full of sexual misconduct that the US military had to pull it's blood money sponsorships. And yeah, the US military was directly giving payment offers to call of duty streamers at one point, and sponsoring all the e sports festivals.

    At the end of the day I don't really do any boycotts, because it just seems ineffective. The only one I keep up with is BDS, because it actually seems to be effective where I live. But I didn't boycott last year's FIFA world cup in Qatar, and I won't boycott the US edition either. And I probably will check out the latest game made by Activision at some point, if I get a new game console or PC.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      The difference here is that an oppressed group is telling you, trans or ally, as a group, to boycott the game. Not because it'll reduce sales any real amount (though that would be nice), but for these reasons, the same reasons for many early pro-LGBT protests.

      1. We are at the point where someone wearing a Harry Potter T-Shirt is as threatening to a Trans person as a person with a 3%er shirt is to someone of a racial minority. Do they actually believe the bad things? Maybe, we don't know, maybe they found it in an op shop and don't know better. Are they gonna cause trouble? Probably not, but if they do, nothing good happens to the oppressed group. Especially if police get involved.

      By opposing this franchise publically and aggressively, we tell people who use Harry Potter as a dog whistle that if they fuck around, trans allies exist, and will surely make them find out.

      1. To normalise gay rights we had to start small. The right to use a bar without it being raided. The right to not seeing slurs and insults in a local newspaper. You might think getting a newspaper to use proper terms is a trivial battle, but more often than not it didn't just require boycotts and angry libs annoyed they can't enjoy things, but street battles and protests and people in jail. More importantly, those battles honed us, helped us organise for the bigger, nastier fights to come.

      2. Carrying on from 2. It lets us know who and where allies are, and how strongly they will support. If someone makes nice sounds and then loudly buys the game because no one can tell them how to buy their treats, they aren't cadre material. If they are quiet, they aren't cadre material.

      But those who support, well, they're capable of acting as a group, not an individual only concerned with individual moral sentiment. That's an ally, someone trans people can use, maybe even rely on. Taking stock of vocal supporters, and gauging the current strength of such support, has real value.

      This isn't any grand plan, mind, but if you lead people through why, slowly, these are the real, political reasons for this action.

      We know we can't fight every single battle. But we can choose a battle and fight it on our terms, on the terms Trans people choose collectively. The question is, will you join them when they ask?

      (ok, how do I remove or at least regularise the damn indents?)

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah but some won't and having them cut their teeth on something small is a good bit of practice. also makes the chuds rage which is fun.

      • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        We are at the point where someone wearing a Harry Potter T-Shirt is as threatening to a Trans person as a person with a 3%er shirt is to someone of a racial minority.

        Are we seriously at that point? I find that hard to believe, but I've also tuned out of all Harry Potter discussions since the Shaun video on it. I've just stopped caring about this culture war issue.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          We are. Jessie Gender did a video on it, and another trans person makes a pretty affecting case for the damage done

    • kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      the difference i guess is that Harry Potter is an ass franchise with no strong foothold in the video game market. but i am a sailing enthusiast myself so ultimately it doesnt matter

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Harry Potter is an ass franchise

        This is true, and JKR is so out there repulsive as well.

        I won't be playing the game anyways, but if I was a Harry Potter fan and saw her comments, I would probably boycott the game too even if it made me a hypocrite.

        I guess we're all hypocrites in some way

        • kristina [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          hearing all the people gushing about the magic of the franchise and getting giddy over what house they will choose honestly gives me the heebie jeebies. like i grew up with it too, i have zero clue how theyre mustering all this enthusiasm for bad performances by child actors.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            I updated the first reply now.

            Also yeah I already had one awkward teenage phase in a English style boarding school, don't need another one.

            • kristina [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              maybe i was just destined to not give a fuck. i feel like pokemon starters have better characterization than what is in the harry potter movies :shrug-outta-hecks:

              • booty [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                i feel like pokemon starters have better characterization than what is in the harry potter movies

                yeah, pretty much. gryffindor is the good guys who are cool and nice, slytherin is the bad guys who are evil and slimy and live in a dungeon. ravenclaw and hufflepuff are, like, there. sometimes. thats pretty much it

            • HornyOnMain
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              2 years ago

              on the whole the first two films are still pretty good if you entirely divorce them from JK Rowling but the child actors were very unambiguously bad (except for emma watson, she managed to make Hermione seem exactly the right level of self assured annoying teacher’s pet she is in the first few books)

              • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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                2 years ago

                Hard-core disagree, they did a decent job. They conveyed shock, surprise, fear, and all their emotions decently. Some lines were clunky but that's because they're talking about weird British magic stuff

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I don’t know, find it a bit hypocritical that people do this and are rightfully angry at JKR, then most likely go on to play overwatch and call of duty.

      I'm sure that they exist, but kinda sounds like you just made up a group of people to be indignant about. I'd imagine if someone is rightfully upset about supporting a bigot and are also online/tuned in enough then Activision games are also on the chopping block.

      And I probably will check out the latest game made by Activision at some point, if I get a new game console or PC.

      There's thousands of good games, I lived and breathed Blizzard for over a decade and I have no real inclination to add a few more skulls to Bobby's throne, their franchises are hot garbage at this point anyways.

    • Ithorian [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I think a big difference is while we know blizzard does all that shit they aren't advocating it. JKR is constantly promoting hateful shit to the point that it's become part of the Harry Potter brand.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      2 years ago

      The problems with Harry Potter are broadcast constantly and evident with even cursory glance at discussion of it, while activion blizzard hides it's problems. It's like how chick fil a is blatantly evil, even though McDonald's does more evil when you look into it.

  • artificialset [she/her, fae/faer]
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    2 years ago

    "Why was I was treated so unfairly for playing a game about putting down a slave rebellion in a franchise known to treat minority characters poorly written by a vocal bigot!!"

    • panopticon [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Glad I never got into HP; bounced on my boys dick to this fact for about five hours. The thing about there being like a subrace of specials that are essentially different from the ordinary poo people, and glorifying/romanticizing/mystifying English boarding schools were always off-putting even before people started to talk about the more bigoted aspects.

  • RikerDaxism [it/its]
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    2 years ago

    Love how all of the comments in support of trans people are framed as "abuse"

  • Goblinmancer [any]
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    2 years ago

    Given that they were given a free copy, can't they just play the game not on stream and then spoil/talk about the game "choice system" and the goblin rebellion plot?

    • usbgen4 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Not saying they should play this game, but if a streamer plays a long game offline that's like working off the clock if they could've streamed it

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah nobody would be mad about a video about how embarrassing and fucked up the game is, even though you'd obv. have to play the thing to shoot the video

  • AsleepInspector
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    2 years ago

    My best friend, who is married to a woman actively pursuing becoming openly trans, is getting the game because "nostalgia good".

  • yoink [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    this clearly wasn't enough to stop her cos she's still currently streaming the game lmao nothing ass article