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  • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Describes American extra-judicial police station where people are held and tortured without being charged, procedes to say the US does not have extra-judicial police stations.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      New Cuban President just dropped to sign contracts on the island's behalf :guaido:

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I forgot just how much Reddit sucks and I hate it. Leaving that site was the best thing I ever did for my mental health.

      • OgdenTO [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah, just everything on Reddit is aggressive, bad faith arguments for no reason. It's not a good way to interact and get used to communication

  • Melitopol [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    so consensual that Cuba doesn't even accept the payment because of how much they love it.

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      1 year ago

      Not even true even in their limited liberal view if the world. The Iranian nuclear agreement for starters, Minsk II, treaties become obsolete due to changing circumstances all the time as well. Guy just thinks invoking a latin phrase makes international relations more sacred, but it's not- at all. There are no rules between nations.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        There's a reason why academic jurists have had a debate over whether international law can actually be considered law in the first place as it is rarely enforced, is often impossible for anyone to enforce and when it is that enforcement is wildly inconsistent.

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          And a big "no it's really law" argument is that most laws are enforced unevenly, so how is this so different?

          • ssjmarx [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            most laws are enforced most heavily against poor and minorities

            "international law" is enforced most heavily against the global south

            :thinking-about-it:

  • Haterade
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    1 year ago

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    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      AFAIK we're the only country that demands taxes of our overseas citizens too. Every other country you pay the taxes of the place you live, but if you're American you gotta pay both.

      • Haterade
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        1 year ago

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    • emizeko [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      and China's aren't even police stations, closer to a mini-consulate/videoconferencing room for Chinese citizens

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Exactly. Basically a place were Chinese citizens could do things like renew drivers licenses and request renewed documents during Covid. They'd existed entirely in the open during the height of the pandemic, but the NED funded, Zenz representing shell org that pushed this bullshit literally waited until after the Covid restrictions had loosened and most of them were being wound down. Because if most of them weren't there anymore they could wave their arms and go "ooooh spooky cover up see, they're pretending it's just a restaurant or an estate agent".

  • Vncredleader
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    1 year ago

    I was literally just bringing up the Platt Agreement for school. The US during occupation literally passed an agreement that they had the right to intervene whenever they chose and that they had rights to naval bases as they saw fit. The us military government in Cuba is the "Cuban government" in question

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    This wiki article and its accusations don't stand up to any scrutiny at all.

    According to Matt Schrader writing for the Jamestown Foundation, "overseas Chinese service stations" (Chinese: 华助中心; pinyin: huázhù zhōngxīn; lit. 'Chinese assistance center') were first established in 2014, with 45 centers in 39 countries having been opened by 2019.

    45 centers

    Safeguard Defenders claimed that, between April 2021 and July 2022, the Chinese government recorded 230,000 "suspects of fraud" who were "persuaded to return".

    230,000 people harassed into returning to china for detainment?

    There are 365 days in a year, you're telling me these centers successfully harassed 14 people PER DAY per center into returning to China??? Fuck off. Bollocks. How many employees do these centers have? They must be absolutely fucking massive operations with incredible resources to manage harassment campaigns against at least 98 different individuals per week. How quickly do you think you can convince someone to return to China via unclear harassment with no direct paper trail or video link to the government? How many people would make the connection "the government is doing this" instead of just random attackers in the street in the dark like is possible anywhere to anyone?

    Absolute nonsense. It would take weeks to convince a person via these methods, you'd need multi-person surveillance teams for every individual you're tracking. These numbers make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

    I decided to take a look at the listed addresses of these Chinese overseas centres. 49 Watford Way Hendon London is a fucking Real Estate shop , not remotely capable of these numbers even if it is a secret undercover front of the Chinese government (bullshit).

    If you perform literally any scrutiny this kind of propaganda always falls apart. The problem is that reddit believes everything at face value because redditors are sheep that trust false or incorrect content to be downvoted. I'm convinced that this system of trusting other people's judgement has led to all of these people completely losing any of their own judgement, they've handed over all critical thinking to other people to do who have also handed over critical thinking to other people to do who have also handed over critical thinking to other people to do and the result of all that is.... reddit.

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Safeguard Defenders were also a rebranded shell org that had previously tried to sue China on behalf of Adrian Zenz and primarily received funding from the National Endowment for Democracy.

    • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      reddit believes everything at face value because redditors are sheep that trust false or incorrect content to be downvoted. I’m convinced that this system of trusting other people’s judgement has led to all of these people completely losing any of their own judgement

      i agree with most of what you said, but calling them sheep is a flawed approach. they have good reason to absorb this propaganda

      Westerners are willingly complicit in crimes because they instinctively and correctly understand that they benefit as a class (as a global bourgeois proletariat) from the exploitation enabled by their military and their propaganda (in Gramscian: organs of coercion and consent). We’re not as stupid as we’re made out to be. This means that we can be reasoned with, that there is a way out.

      https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

      they lack Marxism as a tool entirely. the propaganda makes sense to them bc they know of the horrific conditions in the third world and are grateful to reap the dregs of superprofits

      but yeah the ppl who use :reddit-logo: are some of the worst of the first world

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      It's worth noting that, according to fucking Safeguard Defenders, the only source, in the vast majority of cases, the only steps taken were threats to the targets' families who were still in China. There are also 0 cases of kidnapping, but they have it as CLASS 3 on some charts which means that it's definitely something that could happen and we should be scared about it.

    • LegaliiizeIt
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      1 year ago

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  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Intimidate US citizens living abroad - c:citations-needed: and as if all consulate building aren't filled with spooks.

    Does not equate to ever increasing military bases filled with rapists, murderes, fascists and coup mongers looking to destabilize any leftist group in the country so it remains hard right and fresh for exploitation.

    :amerikkka: :amerikkka: :amerikkka: :amerikkka:

  • halfsolvedrubikscube [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    took a collage level US government course in highschool

    towards the end of the year, the teacher brought in a friend to take questions, a guy who used to work for the CIA. He talked about how we have 'secret agreements' with various countries, whole networks of sites where they take prisoners so they can 'interrogate' them to 'the fullest extent' not possible under US law.

    i wish i had a record of that day that wasn't just memory