Here’s a side-by-side in case anyone else was wondering
https://twitter.com/nerodsi/status/1601315029650837505?s=20
My favourite part of this whole d i s c o u r s e is gamers getting mad that they "made Ada asian now" as if her name wasn't always Ada Wong lmao
Clearly Capcom disregarded the original source material and opted to pander to their Chinese overlords on the tiktok by making Ada WONG an asian now.
This is so sad :sadness:
Can we add another 12 billion deaths to the Black Book of Communism? :zenz:
12 billion dead white G*mer men were added in 2023 when RE 4 Remake made Ada Wong asian :very-smart:
:my-hero: I was deeply concerned when I saw that Marvin in Resident Evil 2 Remake was made a black man. This is clearly Capcom bowing to the woke sjw media.
The recent Dead Space remake made Isaac and his wife visibly middle-aged, for example.
Which considering that they are an experienced engineer and well respected medical doctor respectively , it makes sense that theyre older
Hell just looking at mid 30s medical interns and I'm like "yo y'all got aged by twenty years!"
based on real actors instead of being stylized anime characters.
That's exactly the problem. These nerds' brains have been so completely blasted by :hentai-free: that an actual model doesn't do it for them anymore, they need a cartoon.
BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY ARE PEDOS
2005 Ashley looked goofy like a child with weird enormous eyes and kind of a big flat child's mouth, basically someone who had a minor pituitary deficiency starting at 8 years old or some shit... and the new Ashley is like a smoky German model or something.
Ada CLEARLY went from the kind of model you'd market to straight women - kind of a perfume ad vibe, to the kind of model you'd market to straight men.
On the other hand, Leon...
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...CLEARLY went from the kind of model you'd market to straight women - kind of a perfume ad vibe, to the kind of model you'd market to straight men.
Ashley looks a bit less "perfect"-she's got more shadows and creases on her face which might not be on the culturally ideal woman-but she definitely looks older and more human. Easily the more attractive of the two models is the new one unless you're a pedophile.
What's the world coming to if young women can't even put on proper makeup for their kidnapping and forced ordeal in a zombie nightmare?
Making Lara Croft a D cup from a DD cup is literally the white genocide in action. It's over for the west, Japan is lost :negative:
Polygon boobies was like what the ancient romans used to sculpt in their marble busts and now she has human bazongas, zoe quinn won the culture war T_T
Eggman juggling the chaos emeralds but it's zoe quinn juggling white men's penises she stole.
people with large breasts deserve representation in media
that's what this is about, right?
I just want higher quality representation. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a movie or a TV show where someone with large breasts complains about how big they are and it’s not treated like a joke
That's a great point. I've honestly never known a woman with large breasts who never complained about it. They're always like "ow I stubbed my toe, fucking tits, always causing problems" lmao
I posit that the reason why they consider Ashley to be less attractive is because they learned their sexuality from cartoons. It's like being attracted to porcelain dolls or robots only. There are entire clinics in Japan built to deal with that. If you're a person who isn't attracted to actual human beings then you think Ashley looks 'uglier' (even though she's still a conventionally attractive person, she just looks more realistic). Ada is literally just an improvement though, don't know what they are smoking.
Yeah otakus in the west have porn brain while otakus in japan have eroge brain, it's the same shit, it's being attracted to impossible doll like women only that aren't real.
Exactly. We are talking someone who looks at a rendering of a person who IRL would be considered beautiful and they think beauty standards were lowered. We can only conclude that they see something you might not. That the way shadows interact with new Ashley's face, the fact that her smile brings out a hint of expression lines, that her eyes are less googly and more realistic, that her nose is slightly more pronounced, and so on. All these little things spell out a more real person than an otaku brained person has been conditioned to jack off to.
It might be nonsensical to you that any of the things I've listed would diminish someone's beauty. And it is. It only shows that the problem goes deeper than just being attracted to cartoons or having porn brain. That level of conditioning might mean that the real sex act is unattractive to them. The very hint that Ashley and Ada's faces are impossibly beautiful yet built around actual human skulls means they don't perfectly follow stylistic lines set forth by cartoonists. Therefore it's woke and pandering. They don't realize just how badly conditioned they've become.
Setting aside the whole wanting to fuck cartoons aspect, I do like that older stylized, semi-realistic but still anime console game aesthetic, it has its own charm.
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At least when it doesn't fall into the same uncanny valley as MGS4
The old Silent Hill Face phenomenon, I think back on it fondly
IIRC the CGI artist who made the first game's cutscenes had huge trouble making convincing looking white people since he didn't have references to work off of. The Silent Hill games definitely tried to lean more on realism with their character designs, which makes sense since they were trying to make their games have a believably American aesthetic
I think they aged well. I prefer, say, Link in Majora's Mask than some more modern anime games that try to 1:1 the proportions of modern light novel adaptations.
Same, though I can respect the transition to a more photorealistic style given that they've done a decent job with it.
I wanna know what Ashley does to keep that hair volume throughout all the horseshit she goes through during Resident Evil 4
Las Plagas is just a himbofication/bimbofication/thembofication treatment
Okay, that would have been pretty hilarious. Leon doesn't start spouting one liners until he's infected and they gradually increase as the game goes on, Ashley is a fucking genius once they cure themselves, it's why all the bad guys are the way they are. Brilliant!
I just assumed they found the new model less appealing because she looks older and their brain has been melted by hentai.
That's probably a part of the issue yeah, but they also find Ada to be uglier. And it's hard to even see much of a difference. Her cheeks are slightly rounder in the new version I guess.
oh it must have been years i heard about them. it was some article about this lady who used to be a prostitute and opened the clinic. she specialized on people (mostly men I think) who literally couldn't get hard for anything that wasn't a robot. my google fu is nowhere good enough to unearth the article.
somewhat related here's wikipedia article for (cw: a rabbit hole to bad stuff) Nijkon, which; "is the affective perception that two-dimensional anime, manga, and light novel characters are more attractive visually, physically or emotionally than people from the real world."
I’ve never played this game before so I was shocked (not really) that gamers are upset because the blonde girl looks like an adult model and not a child, the Asian girl looks more Asian, and Leon is eye candy as always, although I do prefer the old hair with different lengths on each side
The 4chan hyper contrarian combat brain got really triggered over RE 3 Remake putting Jill in tactical clothing rather than a get up you'd go clubbing in.
I liked silly stuff like Jill's RE3 outfit or Ada grapplehooking her way through Spanish villages, castles and military bases in a fabulous red dress and heels :shrug-outta-hecks:
The old games prior to 7 had only a vaguely realistic anime aesthetic though, and the characters always looked like 3D anime characters instead of real people all the way until RE6, and anime cheese fit that look better. The more modern RE titles have opted for a more grounded look to everything. The series has always tried to emulate American scifi, horror and action movies and I'd argue that they're just trying to make their games as authentic as possible in that sense.
Interestingly, DMC5 also uses the same engine and the same 3D scanned actor approach and everyone still looks just as goofy as ever so they CAN put real people in ludicrous anime getup, they just have chosen not do so for Resident Evil.
Ashley the blond supposed to be the teenage daughter of the literal in universe US President. In the earlier iteration she has larger eyes and do look a bit younger. Ashley is supposed to be damsel in distress and the whole game is escort mission. They just hired 28 something hot model and facescanned her. In the remake Ashley is not as dopey/damsely and people are some reason up in arms.
Then again, this is REsident Evil - one of the horniest franchise in gayming. Nobody really talk about the lore (writing quality and lore is honestly baffling). RE fanbase like moment to moment survival horror and inbetween games they literally just horny arguing about which character they like to fuck or get fucked by and make weird fanon about character relationships.
Nobody really talk about the lore
:I-was-saying:
But mostly because I read the books as a kid and revisiting them now, they're surprisingly good. Caliban Cove is easily the best one, because it's a standalone not based on anything, so the writer just got to go nuts with it and we get shit like
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Sea leviathans, Umbrella researchers gone postal, and trained zombie machine gun teams.
Also in between the mansion incident and the raccoon city outbreak, Barry canonically kills another S.T.A.R.S agent :officer-down:
Eh, lore and writing is actually one of the more interesting parts of the franchise IMO. It's less about zambies and more about mutations, mysteries and conspiracies, all of vastly different types which can somehow coexist in the world (with the virology in the games being more or less magic).
It's why it's really jarring to think RE1, RE4 and RE7 are all part of the same universe.
Also I'd like to add that in the original version of RE4, Ashley looked so young that I constantly forgot she was an adult, so the little sexual tension / flirtation stuff towards the end of the game would always skeeve me out.
How much you wanna bet the tweeter ain't exactly a "9" or a "7" themselves.
The incel nerds mad right now are going to make a mod that makes Ashley younger in a g-string and Ada in some sort of Queens Blade suit with anime body proportions. I remember these coming up with last two remakes just because I thought that Thomas the Train Mod was funny and google's algorithm starts suggesting the most popular mods. Which of course what was popular had the main women in the games to be ogled at. :awooga:
All of them are absolutely gorgeous, this discourse can't be real.
The problem with Ashley in RE4 remake is I can't see her ears AMA
I don't understand (I mean I do but still) why we have to have remakes of games that had full 3D engines and good art departments in the first place.
To be fair I believe a lot of the changes in the RE4 remake made it significantly less racist and less horny which I can appreciate.
Can't wait to read the comments about RE5 remake about how upset gamers are Capcom slightly changed the fuckin' actual spear-chucking African tribe enemies
I was playing through this game with a friend not long ago, and it's real so-bad-it's-good material most of the time. Just a really terrible game that's so much fun in co-op. and then we got to the part where we're floating between african villages full of (as you said) literal spear-chucking african enemies and I just could not stop laughing. It's so incredibly racist that it's almost adorable.
Not to mention Sheva's tribal costume. Imagine topping Josephine Baker's banana skirt lol
So we can mod Leon and Luis as shirtless and full of chest hair
I really would've liked to have seen Capcom tackle remaking Code Veronica :deeper-sadness:
The RE remakes is actually one instance where I think the remake transcends what the original was about. Yes, you can kick me in the shins for saying that vidya good.
Most remakes end at just updating the graphics, but for the 3 Resident Evil remakes so far, they've actually completely reworked the games from the ground up. In the first remake (RE2) for example they added an enemy that follows you around everywhere you go, and I think they changed some stuff in how you progress, so that shortcuts from the old game wouldn't work. And of course they did technical stuff behind the scenes too, which ultimately only "loosely" makes them remakes. Like yeah overall it's the same story and characters but pretty much everything else is different.
Although there is already a sizeable difference between the old RE2 and the new RE2, and it's the gameplay. You used to progress in fixed-camera scenes and now they've reworked them more like RE7 and RE8 where you have an over-the-shoulder camera. This already fundamentally changes the game, and the tension is entirely different in the RE2 remake vs. the original.
I guess with RE4 it's less visible (I'm waiting for the crack to come out before I give it a shot) because the original came out on the PS2 which isn't that old and was also full 3d, over-the-shoulder camera. The first game in the franchise to do that in fact.
Tbh I'm kinda glad to see a good resurgence of resident evil. RE5 and 6 were really bad, and I was worried it might spell the end of the longest (and oldest?) survival horror franchise. RE7 came back in full force and it was just amazing, a masterclass in how to do a good horror game.
RE 1 and Code Veronica were the games I watched the older kids play as a kid because I was too scared, it's kinda nostalgic in a way. Except we never got far so I never got to see how fucking bonkers they always turn out to be by the end lol
Mr X was in the PS1 resident evil 2, but he didn't follow you around so much as he'd appear at random moments. You could also more easily stun him.
longest (and oldest?) survival horror franchise.
It probably is the longest horror franchise with the most games in it. Oldest would probably be Alone in the Dark though, its first game released 4 years before Resident Evil 1 and was a similar style, fixed camera angles and tank controls. The first Clock Tower game also released a year before RE1.
RE1 was also largely inspired by a 1989 Famicom game, Sweet Home.
The term "survival horror" legit comes from the original game. The screen/option from the first game and its remake literally says it "Enter the survival horror"
I still think RE5 & 6 get too much flack tbh. yeah theyre not very good horror games, but theyre incredibly fun co-op action shlock. RE6 couch co-op with a friend of mine years ago was a blast (even if the multiplayer camera positioning was/is weird af).
I played so much RE5 and Mercenaries mode it was insane. I tried playing RE5 again on PC this year because Humble Bundle had a sale and I wanted to claw my eyes out because I lost all muscle memory for the batshit controls
RE5 was decent as a co-op action game in an RE game's skin. Which actually makes me curious which route they'd take with it for a remake.
On one hand, I think it would be cool if they go back to the original concept of "making the player fear the light as much as the dark". On the other, there are people who legitimately liked the game for what it was.
I doubt they'll ever remake RE5 because of the controversy it was in at the time of release. Which I didn't follow through too much so I'm not exactly sure what it was about, but you gotta admit a white guy going to Africa to kill zombies...
Simply make Sheva the main protag and relegate Chris to a Carlos-esque role. Duh fivehead.
:think-about-it:
(Yes, I’m a bit miffed she hasn’t been in anything since RE5 how could you tell)
This guy had appeared in other RE games in other locations before so I wasn't sure why it became controversial
On principle you're right and this is true of like 90-95% of games like that, but the REmake games are really fucking fantastic and change up quite a bit from the originals.
Like marvel movie the games industry is just cashing in on remaking old titles that did very well
Because people would rather play the remade version than the old one. The original is available for cheaper so they haven't made the new one the only one artificially ( like how Nintendo does by not supporting backwards compatibility)
I don't see it as that different as when a movie goes from DVD to Blu-Ray. It just involves more changes
It's a reimagining, not the same thing in a new format though. DVD to Bluray would be the HD Project mod for the original RE4
