https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2383240/view/3708197530648659274?l=english :centrist: :both-sides:

  • Socialcreditscorr [they/them,she/her]
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    Fight the caste of sacrificing priests

    repel the invaders

    They couldn't even manage calling the conquistadors bad without justifying their invasion. God forbid someone feel even an ounce of empathy when roleplaying a genocidal monster.

    :liberalism: :stalin-gun-1::took-restraint:

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Aztecs sacrificing people because they believed the universe would end if they didn't do so: Savagery, barbarism, fit to be exterminated by their civilized betters

    Romans feeding people to lions because they get off of feeding people to lions: Peak culture, masters of the world, the height of human civilization

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          • Sinister [none/use name, comrade/them]B
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            1 year ago

            This shit was around since 19th century, we will never get rid of it. Also don’t forget the thad male sigma kappa pure carnivore diet.

            • Goblinmancer [any]
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              1 year ago

              Weebs and the belief Japan is trad heaven existing since 19th century lives rent free in my mind

          • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            It's always funny because I've been lucky enough to meet a few Norwegians and they have been pretty down to earth people. they didn't give me any crap whatsoever for being Jewish.

            Even the "based aryan nordic volk" don't seem to hate me, WASPS on the other hand....

        • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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          1 year ago

          It's why I'm grateful there's good viking-related works like Vinland Saga which go out of their way to deconstruct le epic chad viking trope.

          • Sinister [none/use name, comrade/them]B
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            1 year ago

            Yes I agree vinland saga is pretty rad, and it has some representation even. Although I liked the Northmen mostly because alexander skarsgard was shirtless for a vast majority of it lol.

      • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Anglos in the modern day murdering strangers because Jay-bus...or for no reason at all: "TROLOLOLOLOLO TOP KEK! Master race can do what it wants! EPIC TROLL! EPIC TROLL! U MAD BRO?"

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    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      1 year ago

      feeding christians to lions was because they refused to follow the rites which romans also believed would lead to great harm if they didn't.

      its obviously unsafe to get onto a boat with people who are inviting the wrath of sea gods by not offering sacrifice

    • Goblinmancer [any]
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      1 year ago

      Sparta: literally practice eugenics by letting children die and be reliant on slaves for 90% of labor.

      Westerners: god the Spartans were so cool and badass!!!!

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      what do they think happened to 6,000 slaves along the Via Appia after the Spartacus revolt. "that's different"

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    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, people love talking about human sacrifice in Central America but when the vikings lynched people in tribute to Odin, to say nothing of sustaining their existence by pillaging, that's them being a Strong Warrior Culture.

      • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        You could run an experiment where you tell cops not to racially profile people, and then post the crime rates after a year. If it's found out that white people commit disproportionate more crime, they will say its a by-product of their "proud warrior race genes" and as such, we should go back to arresting black and brown people exclusively.

      • Goblinmancer [any]
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        1 year ago

        Its so funny that the vikings literally killed christians and pillaged churches yet all the tradchristian white supremacists wants to be le epic chad viking.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      1 year ago

      don't worry, i took the Karolingians all the way to the old temple of Uppsala and taught the wretches to say the pater noster in Wrath of The Norsemen: the Baltic.

      it's quite easy to destroy a viking shieldwall if you simply run some cavalry around the back :che-smile:

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The Great Tenochtitlan is on fire. Like many of us, I do not support what the caste of barbarian priests has been doing to us for years. Newcomers from the new world decided to put an end to blood sacrifices by allying themselves with the nearby tribes.

    Now that the war has broken out, I must choose whether I will join the compatriots and repel the invader or the newcomers who want to liberate us from the priests who kill our own brothers and children.

    It is the jungle that will allow me to prepare myself. I know these areas. It is my home. The place where I grew up. I will use whatever the gods send me.

    I wasn't born a warrior, but for a proper sacrifice, Huītzilōpōchtli - the lord of war, and Quetzalcoatl - the great teacher, will lead me to become as silent as a serpent, as strong as a jaguar, and as swift as an eagle

    Sounds awful anyways. You're basically playing as a comprador? And the whole thing is entirely whitewashing imperialism?

    Wouldn't be surprised if it was made by Spanish people.

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    • BlueParenti [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Like many of us, I do not support what the caste of barbarian priests has been doing to us for years.

      This has always been the most baffling fantasy literature trope to me. It usually takes someone a major life event - or coming into deep contact with another religion - to have a years long crisis of faith, especially in eras prior to the Enlightenment when atheism really hit the scene.

      Yet always the main character - who comes from a religious culture, has been deeply seeped in the religious culture from birth, has known nothing else but that - is some enlightened gentleman who's above it all and above those ghastly corrupt/evil priest classes.

  • camaron30 [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Watching fellow spaniards get pissed off regarding this game has been extremely maddening (unless they got mad because of the shitty and antiquated representation of the aztecs).

    But watching american fascists insult the aztecs and celebrate the spanish conquest?¿?¿? Dude, wtf, get your own genocides. Imagine being so much of a loser that you start trying to "appropiate" genocides from other nationalist mythos simply because you hate mexicans that much.

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      It's not even worth getting upset at them. You can tell that they're thin-armed, near-sighted wimps that would probably get mugged after spending one hour in a modern Central American city. Strong men indeed.

      Also the Spaniards got their shit rocked by the nomadic Yaqui. So much for the superior race.

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      But watching american fascists insult the aztecs and celebrate the spanish conquest?¿?¿? Dude, wtf, get your own genocides. Imagine being so much of a loser that you start trying to “appropiate” genocides from other nationalist mythos simply because you hate mexicans that much.

      What's funny is that Mexican fascists and trads who see the Conquistadors as "muh ancestors" have been especially riled up so it'd be funny to see them go at it with the WASPs. (Though, the Mexican ones probably have more of a leg to stand on since the Spaniards sure as hell didn't hold the same attitudes towards "miscegenation" that Anglo-American fash do.)

  • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    A couple of pages into the comments on that post and there are open Nazis claiming Jews sacrificed babies to Yahweh. If you somehow missed the other racism, this should reveal the true intentions of the ones being like "uncivilised tribes, human sacrifice".

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      They must be missing out on the part where God does a fakeout. God tells Abraham to sacrifice Issac, they go up to the mountain, and then at the last minute God's like "Sike! Gotcha!"

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    1 year ago

    Shocking that the game that showed a seriously advanced civilization like it was a bunch of cave men living in ruins isnt actually committed to being pro-indigenous peoples.

    • Sinister [none/use name, comrade/them]B
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      1 year ago

      No mesoamerica was grey and dull because the camera man put the medieval dark hbo filter on. I am sure the spainards considered it the most beautiful city in the world because they were brutalist fans.

  • Torenico [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    It's still an insanely eurocentric game, like Aztec Warriors going almost completely naked while fighting the spaniards... like uh, they didn't fight naked lmao. Just pure orientalism, cool concept but filled with eurocentrism. It's kinda wild how their focus is completely on human sacrifices, like that was the entire Aztec culture or something? Just sacrifices? I'm sure they were into other things like building gigantic cities that made european cities look like complete shit.

    Human sacrifices were observed by the spanish yes, but that wasn't the reason why they decided to conquer the Aztecs, in fact, I'd say that was barely taken into consideration. The spanish also genocided almost the entire Inca Empire and human sacrifices there were barely happening when they arrived. Either way, while the Aztecs and Inca were indeed doing terrible things, the europeans were burning people alive because "witchcraft"...

    Still, there's always EUIV where you can play as the Inca and destroy whatever european sets foot on the continent, it's yet another eurocentric game but you can reverse-colonize europe, super difficult but worth a try.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      like Aztec Warriors going almost completely naked while fighting the spaniards… like uh, they didn’t fight naked lmao

      My high school US history textbook’s illustrations would beg to differ

    • mittens [he/him]
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      Human sacrifices were observed by the spanish yes, but that wasn’t the reason why they decided to conquer the Aztecs, in fact, I’d say that was barely taken into consideration.

      I'm not an expert but it probably never factored in. The conquista was actually a lengthy process of forging alliances and subterfuge between the spaniards and the indigenous peoples who felt animosity towards the dominant aztecs. The brunt of the conquistador army was comprised of native conquistadores, which are exactly what you think they are. Some even enacted campaigns independently of the spaniards. And once the process was consumated, native conquistadores were offered a portion of the spoils and some positions of power, they become caciques and collected tribute to the spaniards. Slowly but surely indigenous peoples adapted to the now dominant european power and became assimilated. The process is infinitely more interesting than the boring eurocentric version of "the spaniards were venerated as gods and absolutely crushed the aztecs with their mighty steel" where the spaniards were motivated by fixing these goddamn backwards people.

  • CriticalResist8 [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The language is pretty telling. Stop the sacrifice-making priests or repel... the "newcomers". They're just visiting for the weekend innit?

    • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I remember talking to this guy who worked on a bison ranch and when he was explaining the role bison played in the colonization of America, he would refuse to say ‘colonization’ and instead ‘western development’

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  • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    You don't understand we had to build ships and sail for months across the ocean to get a to lands we didn't know existed to meet a culture we didn't know about to stop them from being savages to each other! When we got there they fought us, they tried to kill us visitors!

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Fuck, saw an article on this and thought it was going to be based. Should have told the gamers to fuck off and play any one of the hundreds of other games where they can kill "uncivilized" people.

  • ImOnADiet
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    1 year ago

    gamers (including me) should be wiped out for this shit :xi-plz:

  • y2r4 [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Feel so sorry for the production team and the amount of grind they will have to go through for some spoilt chud crybabies because they seem to have the money for AAA games.