https://nitter.1d4.us/CornelWest/status/1668781531849199616
Don't be so cynical, he could easily get upwards of 6000 votes
I can't wait for him to get blamed when Hitler 2.0 beats the corpse of :brandon: in 2024.
Republicans gave the Green Party the hug of death back in 2002.
I suspect we'll see a Biden defeat chalked up to Vladimir Putin.
They're already blaming us. A couple months ago on twitter they started pre-emptively accusing us of not voting in 2024.
Gets earlier and earlier every cycle, looking forward to being blamed for the 2028 election as the 2024 one wraps up
If you don't vote in 2036, youre just handing it to the republicans!!!11!1!shift+1!!
If you added Jill Stein’s votes to Hillary’s, Trump wouldn’t have won in 2016.
Jill Stein = Green Party
And if Jill Stein's votes went to Trump he would have won by a slightly higher margin.
heres the problem though: hillary wasn't entitled to jill stein's voters. she was too concerned with purity tests and failed to make overtures to them.
If you gave all the Green votes to the Democrats, but none of the Libertarian votes to the Republicans...
:I-was-saying:
Looks like I'll be voting Green in 2024. Can't wait to be shamed by PSL weirdos and Dems all over again.
Me when I only vote for local and state level things during the election and leave the president vote blank :gigachad-hd:
always the question why they call themselves environmentalists rather than socialists
because usually they are not socialists, just bike-riding capitalists. at least that's what they are here in Canada.
Not an endorsement but I will say the US Greens seem to be better than most international green parties, so far as I can tell. In many countries I think the greens exist to fracture the coalitions of labor/socdem parties, whereas in US for most people they're a protest vote against the conservative tilt of the dems.
cornel also has been saying sus stuff lately. dont remember exactly tho cause im a bimbo
Yeah, I vaguely remember hearing this as well. Some slight amount of research had me digging up that a month ago he wrote something in the WSJ with a conservative saying Desantis' plan to accept a Classic Learning Test over the SAT/ACT is fantastic basically. A test used primarily by home schooled kids and private schools seems fishy to me.
I'll have to see if I find anything else.
Yes, this is what is currently criticized as support for tests which do filter out plenty of people for classist and white supremacist reasons. However I personally don't know what the Classic Learning Test is supposed to be. But I wouldn't like to learn the classics for university exams and wouldn't want tests in any case.
2012 - "Raegan was good actually for squashing communism" - West, apparently. I think his tweet about it is still up, but its easily findable.
The Green Party in America has such a scattered organizational structure that in a sense reminds me of how a lot of socialist parties operate here. They have a top level leadership that supposedly does coordination, and they print out pamphlets and stuff, but on the ground organization is very autonomous.
Because of that, local green party branches can often be far more radical than others. I used to talk a lot with the Green Party out of New Orleans, and they absolutely called themselves socialists. They used to hang out with a lot of Trots in the area. This was like 10 years ago, but they would regularly do volunteer work in poor areas. They did a lot of gutting houses after hurricanes or floods. Good people. I should also point out that Howie Hawkins was their presidential nominee in 2020, and he does identify as a socialist and was a lifelong union organizer. Where I live now the Greens are more tepid though, and mostly try to be slightly more left Democrats.
Personally I think the Green Party in the US has a hard time focusing, and if I didn't know any better I'd say they're mainly just a pet project for very out of touch rich liberal types, like professors with book deals or heirs to oil fortunes who feel guilty about it. They can't seem to decide if they're a serious electoral party or if they're a grassroots movement for environmental issues. I wish I could take them more seriously.
They also have a serious, serious problem with allowing in various "woo" things like anti-vaccine rhetoric, stuff about alternative medicines, weird proposals regarding education. They're also staunchly anti-nuclear, which is one of the absolutely goofiest party platforms you can have as supposed environmentalists. The only anti-nuclear socialists I can take half seriously are the ones in Japan, because at least with them I can understand the trepidation. Like I still don't agree with Japanese socialists on that, but I get it.
he praised reagan for defeating communism, comrade. in 2012.
If he gets literally any televised time he will make excellent use of it. With tiktok sitting in the wings too I feel like this is the best possible time for clip-based agitation.
LOL he won't get any televised time.
Plus, the corporate media is out of fashion now. DeSantis has set the trend of going over the media's head and directly to the people. Hopefully all the candidates take the cue and freeze those bastards out. Don't give them any air.
lmao getting an interview with the the chief of Twitter is going over the corporate media's head - an interview that crashed and burned because Twitter couldn't do a basic task we've been doing for one hundred years. this take would be more believable if you said Bernie or something.
I did watch a twitch stream by BPoCs who did talk about him and they did dunk on him hard for being an older generation that isn't standing for modern socialism anymore. However they might have dunked on him from a place of love since texts and actions by him did influence many of them in their youth.
I dont trust anyone who would go on Bill Maher's show that much
I oscillate rapidly between thinking the Green Party is cool as hell or just a weird money sink. Their anti-nuclear stance is very frustrating, and it's one of the strongest planks of their platform. It won't budge. They also can't figure out what to do with themselves, if they're out here to win races, or they're an environmentalist campaign, or if they're just pushing the Democrats, or what. They're also not nearly coherent enough on economic issues, which makes sense because they're a bizarre mishmash of liberals, slightly left liberals, and some more coherent socialist types. Some Green Party members I've met are very well-read Marxists, and yet some others were clearly liberals. I don't think it works, but they're bigger than any organization I've ever been involved with, so more power to them I guess.
Howie Hawkins seems like a cool guy though, he was probably one of the least weird candidates they could have run. Dr. West writes cool books and he's surprisingly hip on queer stuff, so good for him. Otherwise he's some millionaire Ivy League professor, and some people here have expressed doubts about him. Did he do something recently? I hope not.
If Green Party actually wanted to achieve anything, they'd be funneling money into trying to pull AOC-style upsets in deep blue bastions like Portland. These longshot presidential elections exist only to pull votes from Dems in the general, and the only donor money they get is from Republicans to make sure they do it.
Socialists at the time were actually organizing for electoral success beyond just Debs - the guy who convinced him to become a socialist, Victor Berger, was elected to the House of Representatives and used to do shit like introduce measures to abolish the Senate, and Berger's whole crew ran Milwaukee (we call them sewer socialists today). They were actually trying to do shit, and the fact that they got so far despite the political persecution is why we still talk about it.
If your only goal is to soak votes from the Democrats, I mean, okay I guess. Doesn't seem like there's much of a point to it to me, though. And there's certainly no point investing time and energy into it if your goal is to make actual material improvements in people's lives.
Legit.... West Williamson/ Williamson West would be neat?
Like I love Dr.West but greens are.... greens, might as well grab the crystal mommy energy too.
Interesting, he's not saying endorsement, but nomination. Multiparty campaign.
Multi"party"
I guess the goal is to get either TPP or the Greens past 5?
"Now I want to go west (Like Kanye?)"
"I was thinking more Cornell."
From this song , I would link the official music video but it's full of nudity at the end. Songs cool musically, but the rest of the lyrics really are not.
Honestly West V West is the last chance the USA has to do something truly funny
