live-tucker-reaction heartbreaking

https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-guest-complains-schools-give-children-free-healthcare-free-food-and

REBECCA FRIEDRICHS (GUEST): We should look to the past. So, let's just take the free lunch program that we have in our schools. It started out being pushed by the unions and their friends for poor children. Well, 28 years ago, I had two students in my class on free lunch. Today almost every single child is on free breakfast and free lunch. So what the unions are trying to do, they've pushing something called community schools. And in these community schools, we're giving children free health care, we're are giving them free food, free emotional support, and by the way free political indoctrination for their parents. And so, if these unions and their friends, their politicians, get their way, they would like our schools to be open 24/7. They want to replace the family and families raising their children with our own virtues, they want to replace that with the state. With union-controlled government-run schools. That's dangerous. That's communism when you think about it.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    “Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked.”

    carlin-pog

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I just realised something that bothers me about the modern internet. Back in the late 2000s and the early 2010s, the average annoying online dude's idea of a "based" guy would have been George Carlin (or more unfortunately, some dipshit like Richard Dawkins), now many of them stan fascists and enthusiastically agree with everything Carlin was railing against

      • Redcat [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        they'll also turn around and tell you with a straight face that carlin wouldn't be able to say the things he says without being cancelled

        they just don't realize that they'd be the ones doing the cancelling

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Imagine calling yourself a person of God in and then immediately start talking about how we need children to starve. Are you trying to rot in hell for eternity??

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Christian Fascists have no meaningful connection to any historical Christian tradition. They're more or less a new religious movement that started the US in the 1800s. The fundamental premise was that you didn't need to read the bible to know what Jesus wanted. So it's solipsism + ambient American calvinism + proud ignorance + American Fascism, all under one ruth. A real, true religion of evil with no redeeming features. Hell, they barely have any theology.

      • DoubleShot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I’m reading a book right now that mentions just how absolutely savage white settlers were on the American frontier. I mean, they make the army at the time look saintly by comparison. No concerns at all about slaughtering indigenous men, women, and children just so they could be yeoman farmers living the dream. Honestly I might even put them ahead of some of these present day settlers in Palestine just in terms of sheer evilness.

        Then I had a thought. These are the same people who essentially founded the modern day evangelical movement in the US. Evangelicals today are both the literal and figurative descendants of the monsters who genocided an entire people so they can get a little slice of that pie. Their morals haven’t improved at all in 2 centuries.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Straight up - From the book of Mathew: "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit."

          Their own book (admittedly they neither read nor are they interested in scholarship or theology) condemns them endlessly for their bullshit.

          • DoubleShot [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I was raised evangelical. A big reason I deconverted was I started taking the idea of “faith without works is dead” very seriously. Except, within the evangelical framework there isn’t really a way to do “good works”, even though it’s right there in the Bible. Evangelical churches and groups don’t offer any programs to genuinely help the poor and needy. You can try and organize things yourself but no one’s gonna help you. And if you dare start talking about “social justice” enough your fellow Christians will get real suspicious that you might be one of those “liberals” and start shutting you out. The whole system is designed to discourage you from doing actual good things so I couldn’t figure out how I was supposed to do “good works”. Could not be happier to be out.

            • Florn [they/them]
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              1 year ago

              You start looking to hammer things out and get your beliefs in order only to find out that everyone around you treats everything that could be good or beautiful about your religion with scorn

              • Goblinmancer [any]
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                1 year ago

                Nazis got their inspiration of generalplan ost and "living spaces" from America Manifest Destiny.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      There's a spectrum of chud fundies that goes from "doesn't actually believe and just wants money and power" all the way to "actually believes the horrid ideology to the point that they believe they are blessed because of their cruelty and greed because of that Calvinist theology hack."

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        "doesn't actually believe and just wants money and power"

        Missing the slick mega church pastor that deep down is dead inside but the money is good. These true believer freaks are something else and dangerous af

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          I did say it's a spectrum of fundie chuds. That's somewhere in the middle.

  • NeelixBiederman [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    You know what's more dangerous? Forcing 36 unhealthy, hungry, emotionally damaged children in a room and trying to teach them anything.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Akshually, sweaty, what's dangerous is inviting the devil in by *checks note* clothing the naked, healing the sic, feeding the hungry, etc.

      What would Jesus think if he heard we were just handing out food willy nilly?

      The only good Fascist etc etc.

      • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Does anyone find it weird how white Christians in America seem to fulfill more antisemitic stereotypes than Jews do?

        Sure, I'm the problem but some spoiled, pig-like brat who inherited their wealth from daddy's slave plantation going generations back is totally fine, despite never earning a single honest penny in their lives.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Even more dangerous than that is confining unhealthy, hungry, emotionally damaged children in an isolated "homeschooled" fundamentalist environment. https://time.com/6284603/shiny-happy-people-duggar-family-true-story/

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      No you see, if an unhealthy, hungry and emotionally damaged child fails to learn enough in school that is actually the child's personal failing and a billionaire's (superior) child would have enough individual responsibility to persevere.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Sure whatever, it's communism.

    If they want to tell people objectively good things are communism I am not going to correct them.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      1 year ago

      Good is bad and bad is good. That's how the villains think in kid's TV shows, and in real life too I guess.

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          1 year ago

          I assume this lady also refuses to brush her teeth because she loves tooth decay

  • DoubleShot [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Communism is when you want to see children happy and healthy and the more happy and healthy they are the more communist it is. Damn, guilty as charged.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      1 year ago

      She thinks poor people are not real people, and her flock agrees.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    That's a special kind of evil.

    Child neglect is serious abuse that can fuck them up for life.

    This woman should be in prison.

  • forcequit [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    how do you even go about deradicalising and reeducating these people?

    God forbid we nurture children

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Chud notions of parenting are just hazing.

      They inflict cruelty so that children wait their turn to be cruel to future children. rust-darkness

    • Kuori [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      you don't. some people just have to be shot.

    • mazdak
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      10 months ago

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      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I think the cultural revolution model might be better than that.

        I also don't think we live in a culture that would need as much reforming as pre-Maoist China as that society had rigid class oppression baked into many many facets of life. Although by contrast Americans are all weirdly obsessed with race

      • huf [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The premise of the book kazohinia

        • mazdak
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          10 months ago

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          • huf [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            It has its faults, but its worth it for the second half

    • Zodiark [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Disenfranchise and marginalize them through activation of democratic formulated laws and policies protecting and enabling the rights of the child.

      These people can be ignored if the law is established and enforced contrary to reactionary politics. Reactionaries wield power from the minority, through judicial fiat, through institutional corruption, and through disenfranchisement of workers.

      You don't save them, you repress them and you save their offspring.

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Let's make a nice gated community for them all in Alaska.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      The only patriotic way to save children has to follow the script of a "Taken" movie. frothingfash

      • SaniFlush [any, any]
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        1 year ago

        The type of person who treats their children like personal property instead of sapient beings with rights.

        ...Also known as the status quo in most of the English speaking world!

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      The maaaaaan of the house (CW: domestic violence)

      spoiler

      beating the weakness out of his children.

      grillman

      • Redcat [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        but that's still free! frothingfash

        new bit idea: actually we should abolish the family unit because its inherently communist

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          It's not free for the maaaaaan of the house to take precious time out of his work at the job factory to do that. grill-broke

          • Redcat [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            ohnoes its time for the right wing hjacking of 'emotional labor'

      • SaniFlush [any, any]
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        1 year ago

        and yet when we do the same to the man of the house, we go to jail...

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Unironically, this is exactly her issue. She wants children corrected and controlled by direct patriarchal violence. That's what she means when she says school are replacing families - emotional competency is replacing patriarchal violence, which is the most fundamental social structure of conservatism.

    • neo [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      In my opinion this shithead needs to be publicly shamed out of existence.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      The Calvinists, Secular Calvinists, and associated chuds can't fully agree on which context of "fuck them kids" they are going for.

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    You know an idea is good when some oinker is screeching "what are we, a bunch of Asians!?!?" over it.

    If you pigs get to laugh at me and rub your overvalued homes in my face, I should be allowed to force you to by schoolchildren lunches as punishment for your decadence.

    • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      frothingfash: "I am a proud machiavellian, I should do whatever I want and who cares if anyone gets hurt in the process? Can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs!"

      frothingfash: "Who cares if free meals is one of the cheapest ways to drop truancy rates? It's funded by the T-word (don't ask why I fully support subsidizing porky tho)! Poors need to die in famines for honor!"