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The rhetoric and goal of Hexbar are clear based on their announcement: to “dismantle western propaganda” and "demolish organizations such as NATO” shows that Hexbar has no intention of "respecting the rules of the community instance in which they are posting/commenting.” It’s to push their beliefs and ideology.
lol. lmao even
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defederating from nazi instance: takes forever
defederating from socialist instance: does it before federation even starts
just do :liberals: and it's that guy in the aliens meme thanks i did all the work for you as an Ideas Guy that'll be $100,000 a year thanks
From their defederation with the Nazis message: "calling people names is not the answer".
Really? Did God almighty tell you to spread that message of love and tolerance? You are so wise and a great leader to dare to say it.
Can't have people listen to communist propaganda, they might like it!
several concerning statements, as highlighted below:
dismantle western propaganda
lmao telling on themselves.
They think it means we're all sweating in a moscow server farm or something, it's hilarious
I hope they purge academics from their website, too, as both academics as well as non Westerners tend to resist western propaganda somewhat.
I'll copy what I told their admin:
Like honestly this is kinda gross, they [hexbear admins] specifically try and smooth things out and make things easier for your [.world] admins so you don’t have to deal with a flood of hexbear users spamming PPB everywhere and you just use it as evidence to defederate lol
Moralists don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.
Levels of Liberalism even Mao couldn't comprehend.
What a terrible justification. So their reason for defederating isn't hate speech or anything truly problematic, but because... We're a socialist instance with socialist opinions? So it really is just anti-socialism then? It's also amusing seeing people accuse Hexbear of being an echo chamber, yet it's the lemmy.world admins going against their own users to preemptively defederate instances on shaky ideological grounds? Not only is Hexbear NOT doing this, but admins here even made a post encouraging people to act in good faith and follow the rules of other instances. Which instance is the real echo chamber here? Sure looks like lemmy.world.
Anyways, we have better emotes, better posts, cooler users, and a real community that helps people and does good things. If you're a lemmy.world user reading this, make an account here and come on over. I've been on this site awhile now, and it's actually quite nice.
ideology is something other people do, but not me, i'm built different and have the same political opinions as everyone around me.
And what do we call antisocialism and anticommunism? Thats right, its fascism folks
A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope and Tsar, Metternich and Guizot, French Radicals and German police-spies.
Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as communistic by its opponents in power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of communism, against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries?
Two things result from this fact:
I. Communism is already acknowledged by all European powers to be itself a power.
II. It is high time that Communists should openly, in the face of the whole world, publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the Spectre of Communism with a manifesto of the party itself.
lol, people there threw a massive hissy fit when I criticized them for being federated with Nazi and lolicon instances, yet whining about the tankies instead. Now they've finally defederated from exploding-heads after realizing that maybe these Nazis are Nazis, while Hexbear gets pre-eminently blocked because of this statement full of spurious reasoning.
Girl!
I wanna take you to a hexbar
I wanna take you to a hexbar
I wanna take you to a hexbar, hexbar, hexbarLet's start a war, start a nuclear war
At the hexbar, hexbar, hexbar
Wow!
At the hexbarWash your cock and balls with Hexbar, unless you want to smell like a lib. Order now!
washing your grundle is bourgeois, that smell is liberalism leaving the body
Now they've finally defederated from exploding-heads after realizing that maybe these Nazis are Nazis
The're still federated with CSAM instances
I can't believe they don't want to fairly debate us in the marketplace of ideas, seems pretty authoritarian to me tbh
Their admins seeing that and feeling threatened is a huge self-report
"Creating those kind of fringe echo-chamer instances is how we end up with toxic and extreme groups like SRS"
This lib-ass
redditor with 48 updoots is still crying about SRS 
rent free 
SRS did a massive amount of good on that shithole website. Before SRS it had jailbait, a hundred different pedo subreddits, and gamers still said "haha get raped!" when they killed opponents. It had a significant impact on site culture.
This dumbass obviously opposes the positive changes it brought about though.
Finding SRS was probably my first step towards radicalization, now that I think about it. I very quickly went from "what is wrong with these people?" to "what is wrong with everyone else on this site?"
It was the original boogeyman of reddit, SRS stood for shit reddit says and all it did was basically link to racist/sexist/lgbt-phobic posts on other subreddits and people would make fun of the redditor in the comments. This mocking would break their psyche and was an unforgivable sin to all the fragile redditors and they would regularly come into SRS to argue and get mocked even harder. It had a similar vibe to r/chapotraphouse long before that existed but with less of an explicit leftist slant because
was just that horrible, even libs could dunk on how shitty they were. It's hilarious that even though its basically a ghost town now this guy is still clutching his pearls about it all these years later.
Don't you want to debate us in the "marketplace of ideas"? Isn't this "creating those kind of fringe echo chamber instances"?
fringe echo chamber
It's only fringe if it doesn't reinforce the status quo sweaty
Like, Shit Reddit Says? What year is this?
Also of course I want an echo chamber. I’m not trying to talk to people who’re just gonna piss me off. That’s not something people just do for fun.
Like, Shit Reddit Says? What year is this?
To libs, it's still forever 2015/2016
Some say the peaches are still frozen to this day
That one post tells me all I need to know about the type of people there. These people are beyond deranged.
The greatest irony of all of this is that I was never realistically going to set foot outside here and Lemmygrad, but now I do really want to go and annoy them.
Lmao, my favorite reply must be the one talking about "muh echo chambers bad" while supporting defederating anything they don't want to hear
The liberal brain is a sight to behold
Like, we literally don't want to be an echo chamber. We didn't CHOOSE to leave Reddit. We CHOSE a federated social media platform with the intent of communicating with other communities. This got derailed for a few years for historical reasons, but the intent was there in the beginning and it is finally being followed through on.
Yeah, the hypocrisy/doublethink/whatever you want to call it is mindnumbing lol
post the quote nerd
edit: sorry couldn't find it then i scrolled down half a page and someone else posted it so i might as well be another nerd that posts it
During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.
If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.
if having well-defined ideological boundaries is being an echo chamber, I'm honestly okay with it. let libs have every other site. I put in my hours trying to get ideas through their thick skulls years ago on
.Like, that whole “echo chamber” line always seemed like it was mostly just used to justify republicans being allowed to be dumbasses in the public square. Dumb as shit
Turns out adding the news thread's essay for no reason was actually hilarious.
idk it's honestly really surprising they did this to me, lemmygrad has a far worse reputation on the rest of lemmy and is still federated, really weird
For now
To clarify, for those who have inquired about why Hexbear versus Lemmygrad, it should be noted that we are currently exploring the possibility of defederating from Lemmygrad as well based on similar comments Hexbear has made.
yeah but they still decided to defed you while you aren't even federated anyone and left us federated to I guess keep spreading chaos in their eyes? Like I'm really confused what the difference between lemmygrad and hexbear is to them...
I really don't care either way. The only instance I have seen even remotely worth federating with is lemmygrad. But that's because I am a Marxist. The second I see one of them trying to dunk on an Anarchist chapo I will defederate myself from them.
Looooool they're freaking out about how we're gonna brigade them and post pigpoopballs everywhere and their evidence of this is a quote from a hexbear post that's explicitly like "brigading them and posting pigpoopballs everywhere would be funny but unhelpful, don't do that"
I'm trying to put myself behind their lib eyeballs and understand what exactly is meant to be sinister and threatening about the Hexbear statement of federation guidelines. like it's all very explicitly "hey, be normal, be communist, but don't fuck with people for no reason," and apparently that was enough to get the little Bircherites in their head printing pamphlets. Really shows that the mere existence of communist views is so threatening that they don't even have to explicitly state that that's the problem.
that's literally it. it's like cuba. cuba poses absolutely zero material threat to the US or its people. its mere existence however acknowledges ways of ordering society to value human life outside the hegemon. the threat is entirely ideological. there is literally only The West and her glorious, infallible institutions for these people. the threat is more people inside the core seeing the cracks in the facade, which are so plainly visible from outside.
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