Thank you, federation, for bringing libs to our lair once again.
They really always default to the same fucking shit "BOT! XINNIE THE POOH!" like an actual NPC 
they are so not used to dealing with people who call a spade a spade.
Their core beliefs are only supported by vagueries and insinuations, of course their racism is underhanded as well.
god they just radiate redditor energy
what posting on reddit does to a mf
I refuse to go there but are they doing the reddit shit where everyone tells the same jokes in every thread?
Redditors are the sentient large language models the techbros have been after.
considering how much of reddit is bots these days, this is as literal as you'd like to make it
doing the reddit shit
can confirm this happens every. damn. thread.
yeah this honestly. this comment hit me right in the feels. shut up and take my upvote!
this is gonna get buried and I'm probably gonna get downvoted for this but fuck Russia and fuck Putler.
edit: wow, this thread really blew up! RIP my inbox!
edit2: thanks for the gold kind stranger!
edit3: I'm seeing word that there's some tankies hanging around on this thread, and I'm only going to say this once - get the fuck out. Maybe you went, I don't know, to a LIBRARY for once in your lives and read a book on the Soviet Union that you so fervently worship, let alone the authoritarian Chinese government, you wouldn't be such fucking douchecanoes.
edit4: holy shit somebody gave me platinum! you are epic, good sir!
edit5: who would have thought my most upvoted comment would have been on this thread!
edit6: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) swiggity swooty
edit7: alright, I'm noping the fuck out of here! see you later everybody!
Real 2008 "How is depicting Obama as Curious George offensive? Everybody loves Curious George." Energy.
That was the brilliance of this too. The initial comparison was a chinese man to a yellow bear and a black man to a tiger called "Tigger", the levels of racism we've come to expect from the rabid HK separatists.
The real victim in all this is Tigger, who is being compared to a war criminal.
really brought us back to our roots so far
there's a spectre haunting the fediverse
Lmao nice to see they're at the "Pointing out Ukrainian nazism makes you the real nazi" levels of reddit.
It's hard to believe these types of people are real sometimes.
As if they think it's a universal insult that speaks for itself. lmao who has the echo chamber again?
mod Banned @Qfuiyh@lemm.ee from the community politics expires: in 1984 years
I chuckled
What do you mean it's racist to call a Chinese man yellow? It's just like everyone's favorite Asian Peril character, the perfidious Yellow Claw!Remember Fu Manchu, the giant racist egg that Marvel just never quite got rid of?
Marvel eventually had to stop using Fu Manchu because of copyright, so they eventually just came up with The Yellow Claw
Shang Chi's original father before they started to use The Mandarin instead
(Which is it's own bucket of worms, but yeah, lots of Yellow Peril in comic books)
I think this is going to become one of my favorite emojis when talking about libs.
Liberals can’t help but repeat 200 year old debunked talking points like a broken record player, as if it will make sense this time
As is well known, Lassalle heard nothing of the "iron law of wages" other than the word "iron" borrowed from Goethe's "eternal, iron, great laws". The word brazen is a signature by which the true believers recognize themselves. But if I take the law with Lassalle's stamp and therefore in his sense, then I must also take it with his justification. And what is she? As Lange showed shortly after Lassalle's death: the Malthusian theory of population (preached by Lange himself). But if this is correct, then again I cannot abolish the law, even if I abolish wage labor a hundred times, because the law then governs not only the system of wage labor but every social system. Precisely based on this, the economists have been proving for fifty years and more that socialism cannot abolish natural misery, but only generalize it and spread it over the entire surface of society at the same time!
- K. Marx, 1875 (Critique of the Gotha Program - Google translated from German/mlwerke.de, I CBA to look up the quote in English)
They're using the same arguments as 150 years ago, yes.
It's incredible how Marx was already dunking on the same arguments we see TODAY, everywhere.
Somewhere in Grundrisse, he criticizes an American economist that argues that the state is wheighing down the american economy and that it should be abolished for the market to be free. The quotes felt like someone slipped reddit comments into the pages.
(Btw, Marx explains that the American state is itself the result of the self organization of free market forces, unlike in European countries, in which captalists had to deal with the feudal institutions that preceded them, so the american's argument made zero sense then and still makes zero sense now)
I don't even want to get near that hornet's nest, not this time. WoT's fandom gives the ASOFAI fandom a run for its money for toxic tribalistic bullshit.
They're all old. Just push them over and run away.
I'd have to check my chromosomes to see if I have the gender essentialist magic that allows me to push them over
it's distilled through the lens of modern anglo bullshit so it's not great on gender but a lot of wheel of time draws from norse mythology, including the gender-bendy parts. calling it gender essentialist is a pretty shallow read
but a lot of wheel of time draws from norse mythology
calling it gender essentialist is a pretty shallow read
Pretty much all fiction draws from something else. That doesn't automatically give anything a pass, and calling it a "shallow read" implies that if I read it deeply I would automatically approve of its ideology. The Peterson Maneuver is kind of in bad taste.
EDIT: Also, saying "actually the gender magic isn't essentialist because genders can shift like in Norse mythology" still doesn't remove the fact that magic is gender coded in a contrived way from the start in the metaphysics of the fiction. A similar excuse could be made of Gygax's establishment of racism with essentialist characterstics in D&D where creatures could shift to different races by magical means (such as the druid reincarnation spell, but not exclusive to that) but orcs are nonetheless "born evil" and it's a "good act" to kill them no matter the circumstances.
You're allowed to like it, but accusing people of being "shallow" in their reading if they don't agree with you is a lot like accusing people of "taking
out of context" if they don't nod along to everything Professor Lobster says.Compare Discworld, which has strongly gendered magic but is made very clear that it's a cultural construct and anyone can learn either mode (or both, though generally not at once) if they have the right mindset and inclination.
there's an explicitly trans male character that channels the appropriate magic. he's considered the weird woman who channels male magic until it's dropped that satan literally cursed him to live as a woman. it's a very binary gender system but if you're going to have eternal souls, it's not an awful way to handle trans characters. there's a lot wrong with the gender politics and Jordan sucks ass at writing women so there's much riper targets to criticize the series over than this.
I feel better informed about that; I didn't get that far. I still don't have to like the series overall (the fandom tends to really put me off) but I appreciate your post.
definitely. the first 6 books are ok if you turn your brain off and don't think too hard about them but the later books really drag on and on and on and on. I had infinite patience as a kid and I miss that sometimes. the fandom is absolutely cursed.
Love to have a cis man come at me about what is and isn't gender essentialism because he perceives me as being a treat defender and therefore the target of his life's vendetta.
Calling it a shallow read doesn't imply anything of the sort. As others pointed out in more detail than me, there are better places to critique the books and how they handle gender. Which is the point of what I wrote.
I fucking knew when I wrote that reply I'd get an arrogant, condescending reply like this. I don't like the vibe you've brought to hexbear since you've been here, and I will not reply further.
You took a criticism of a piece of fiction as an attack on yourself. When I talk about "treat defending" that tends to be what I'm talking about: when people identify with a consumer product to the point that they feel attacked personally if that product is criticized.
If you're going to do that, that leaves no room for discussing (and especially not criticizing) the product outside of mandatory agreement with you.
EDIT:
and therefore the target of his life's vendetta
I don't like the vibe you've brought to hexbear since you've been here
I criticized a piece of fiction, not you or your identity. By contrast, you did directly make this about personal attacks on my character, and by your own admission, you've maintained that hostility for some time now.
Ok one more reply since this is an excellent example and to not reply would be at least one type of liberalism. I took your comparison of my words to lobster man as an attack on myself, which it was. My original reply was not hostile and intended to correct your critique so that you can better target future ridicule of these books. But because you have this weird persecution complex you interpret any disagreement as treat defending, and collapse further, more hostile replies into that. When you're usually the one that escalates hostility in the first place!
I absolutely think these books are worthy of ridicule because they're full of unexamined cringe patriarchy from start-to-finish.
I saw you do this exact same thing in a thread just yesterday or the day before. It's incredibly off-putting.
It's a shame because I've learned a lot from your posts (i.e. about how gross the gambo writer is, etc.) and they often prompt me to write replies to you before I delete them because I know that if my reply isn't a 100% circlejerk of your point, you're going to jump down my throat and immediately escalate into hostility over it. That's what I can't stand about your participation here.
I will be disengaging now and would appreciate you doing the same.
I tried to send this as a personal message several times but it didn't go through, and because it isn't technically violating a disengagement because you posted a lot more than a disengagement declaration of intent in your last post, I'll just post the message here.
Privately, I just read your most recent message in good faith (even if it blatantly violated the disengagement rules) and I think you did have a point.
I saw "shallow reading" as a presumptive, and yes, arrogant claim that if I read it deeper (and I wasn't interested; the patriarchal presentation and the bad female writing and the gendered magic system in the books put me off very early on) that I would agree with you, thus my Petersonian reference.
Looking back, comparing your post to Jordan Peterson's "you can't disagree if you watched enough videos" sophistry was incendiary and I actually do regret that, especially because I didn't even know that you actually agreed with me about the actual ideological presentation in the books more than you originally let on. But that was lost in the spiraling escalation.
You don't have to like me, and I'm not exactly happy about "I never liked your posts and you don't belong here" hostility, but I think I will take some of what you said to heart anyway.
I will be disengaging now
"Disengage" posts are supposed to be just that: a declaration of disengagement. You didn't post that; you posted a lot more.
Sounds like Star Citizen's big spenders. There was some le steak dinner party set up by the grifting company (so the big spenders would get exclusive access to yet another fucking internet spaceship jpeg sale), and the photos that the attendees send back to try to flex showed a room full of dumpy old white men. No one I could see was younger than, maybe, 45, and they were so, so white. One even had a fucking top hat because le irony.
Hasn't that game been in development since 2010? So the dumpy 45-year old was at one point a slightly less dumpy 30-something who presumably had some disposable income to throw at a cool kickstarter game.
The le epic steak dinner was, I think, about 5 years ago. SO we can split the difference about how old the gamedads were when they got their sunk costs going.
It's really like time has stopped for these people and they are no longer capable of comprehending new information
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