The most immediate example I can think of was called "Subverse," which was directly advertised as some sort of anti-SJW (I think it was called that at the time because woke/DEI weren't quite in common use yet) awooga pandering game where you played some boring ego insert that had a space harem that marked as many safe dopamine boxes for boring nerds as possible to pander to freeze-gamer gaters and cater to their cooming needs.

The game was boring. Full stop. It was boring. The gameplay itself was shallow and uninspired, and even the le sexy sex scenes were boring according to the general assessment of the very same treat hogs it was targeted to pander toward.

"Yandere Simulator" would count if that steaming pile of irradiated shit ever actually got completed. It was like Star Citizen for kiddie creeping weeb gooners, but less profitable.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    12 days ago

    The problem the reactionaries have is that they can't write fictional sexy content without it becoming kink while at the same time they view all kink as leftist/sjw unless it is straight "traditional" pandering shit. They make an exception for this when they're consuming it as pure pornography, like hentai or whatever, because your porn consumption is "secret" and that's ok. Liking femboys or queer or bdsm or ntr cuckoldry hentai is fine in that "secret" consumption. But outside of that? BAD. Kink is not something REAL MEN do.

    So when they put anything sexual outside the "secret" porn setting, it becomes bland and boring as fuck.

    This is some sort of shame thing going on. It ultimately relinquishes all sexuality in media outside of pornography to the left. awooga Eye candy is probably the only thing they allow or have going in most of their games, and even then it's kinda dull, boring, and uninspired. Men in full suits of armour while women wear bikini-armour, that kind of thing. But that's not the same thing as a raunchy scene that actually tries to do something interesting.

    You could write some really good stuff that panders to them but they'd be embarrassed and ashamed about it and would have extremely mixed emotions about it being more than their "secret" porn. Because, let's be real, they have a lot of kinks that aren't just vanilla trad cath shit. They're just ashamed of it.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      12 days ago

      Liking femboys or queer or bdsm or ntr cuckoldry hentai is fine in that "secret" consumption.

      I'm still baffled by the very long chud tradition of them being really horny for what they call (CW: transphobic fetish words)

      spoiler

      "futas" and "removed" and "traps"

      and the like but also violently hating trans people and expressing a desire to harm them.

      So when they put anything sexual outside the "secret" porn setting, it becomes bland and boring as fuck.

      That's an amazing observation, and now I can see it practically anywhere chuds indulge themselves or pander to each other without those bothersome "wokes" actually making things that entertain them.

      Men in full suits of armour while women wear bikini-armour, that kind of thing.

      Marvel brain is a fuck. Plastic people, often lacking sensuality but sometimes being really horny in (SV-coded) bursts.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        12 days ago

        and the like but also violently hating trans people and expressing a desire to harm them.

        Domination thing perhaps. I can't really say for sure. Power? It's similar to misogyny in that the more they hate women the more they consume violent and humiliating sexual content against women.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          12 days ago

          Lots of old fashioned anti-black bigots consume lots of interracial porn of the most "cuck"/SV kind, and that's reflected in the internet data coming out of pretty much any GOP convention (alongside gay hookups and the like) that might come to town.

          All that repression and shame isn't healthy.

        • PKMKII [none/use name]
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          11 days ago

          Chuds seem to interpret the feminine stirring desire in them as the feminine having power over them. And they hate that feeling. So yeah, there seems to be a feedback loop of desire leading to needing to feel power over the feminine which only creates more desire.

    • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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      12 days ago

      Huh. This has helped shine a light on why the audience for fetish art tends to have a lot fewer CHUDs than people would expect. They're probably still there, but they just never share their CHUD opinions.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        12 days ago

        It's interesting! I don't have all the answers about exactly the causes of this but the observation is fairly clear when you think about it.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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        11 days ago

        Pod Damn America has a great episode that touches on a lot of this you should definitely check out.

        https://soundcloud.com/poddamnamerica/russ-mckamey-pt-2-w-miss-violet-faraday

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    12 days ago

    I mean the go-to counter argument for "get woke go broke" is Nike's Colin Kaepernick ad campaign that made like $11 billion

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      12 days ago

      I know there's plenty of "woke" material, capitalist-woke and otherwise, that is quite successful. There's so much of it that I specifically wanted to see more chud pandering failures instead.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    12 days ago

    Not a game but the entire chud straight-to-home-video movie market is an exercise in giving guys like Kevin Sorbo and Kirk Cameron a job while nobody else knows or cares.

    I swear the only reason that niche shit exists is for money laundering

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      12 days ago

      Not a game but the entire chud straight-to-home-video movie market is an exercise in giving guys like Kevin Sorbo and Kirk Cameron a job while nobody else knows or cares.

      I swear the only reason that niche shit exists is for money laundering

      Late stage Bruce Willis career go brrr brrrrrrrrrrrr

    • ComradeLove [he/him, comrade/them]
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      12 days ago

      Oh yeah, I used to want to make a homemade mst3k riff track for God is not Dead. I never saw it, but I remember so much of how it was described to me. An atheist professor winds up going to Hell through his pride and refusal to accept Jesus. Some Muslim girl realizes Jesus is the prophet that she is compelled by faith to follow. The atheist guy gets pwnd in class by some Christian student. He was also an atheist because he was "mad at God", something about God didn't save his mother from dying. Anyway, this needs 2 nerds explaining fallacies and making counter arguments, thus all who hear it will give up their superstitious world views and take up the cause of rationality.

  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    12 days ago

    "Yandere Simulator" would count if that steaming pile of irradiated shit ever actually got completed.

    I remember seeing a dev log of that forever ago and thinking "lmao, he's really getting into the whole depraved psychopath character to narrate this huh?" and it was the least surprising development ever when it came out that no, he really was just a creep and an absolute piece of shit.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      12 days ago

      Between that creep, Matt Stone and Trey Parker, Justin Roiland, and "method actors" like bateman-ontological and Jared Leto, the old saying about "we are who we pretend to be" feels more and more true over time.

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      12 days ago

      What's really funny is that while he was making it somebody else was able to make a game with the same concept and release it in like 6 months and it was supposedly better

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        12 days ago

        I hadn't heard that but I'm really not surprised. The YandereDev guy had no relevant skills for making a game and as I understand it relied heavily on just copying tutorials and getting people from his discord to do bits and pieces of it for him, same with the art being free assets and stuff he got his "fans" to make for him.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          12 days ago

          I hadn't heard that but I'm really not surprised. The YandereDev guy had no relevant skills for making a game and as I understand it relied heavily on just copying tutorials and getting people from his discord to do bits and pieces of it for him, same with the art being free assets and stuff he got his "fans" to make for him.

          The hogs just wanted the edgiest possible awooga libertarian-alert hypersus slop and didn't care about the quality as long as all the ingredients were present in the mixing bowl.

  • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    12 days ago

    Ironically there are no anti-woke games done by major studios since it would be actual financial suicide to cater to that crowd

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      12 days ago

      I guess the biggest anti-woke game in recent memory was the wizard gestapo nostalgia treat extravaganza where you can be a nice or less nice magic pogrom enjoyer.

      • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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        12 days ago

        I don't think that game even qualifies. Had it come out in like 2017 chuds wouldn't have given a shit about the game

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          12 days ago

          Culture war fronts are all about timing.

          If the 1980s Aliens movie came out today as a brand new entry, the chuds would crusade against it and probably doxx and stalk the actors involved for years. frothingfash

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    12 days ago

    I found this [CW ALL THE ISMS] Just a big ol thread of curated "anti-sjw" games I've literally never heard of and all look awful.

    https://steamcommunity.com/app/598700/discussions/0/2269193447679620773/

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      12 days ago

      dead-dove-1

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      Show

      I didn't think it would be possible for an image so panderingly horny to be so uninspired and boring. blob-sleep

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          12 days ago

          I have actually heard directly from cyberpunkerinos treat hogs that the Major was "ruined by wokeness" in later versions. You know, ones where she had more agency and talked and thought about things other than "oh, looks like it's time to tear my clothes off again to go invisible" fanservice contrivances. Even scarier once the story made it clear that the Major's original biological form was unclear in both ethnicity and gender and that ultimately that no longer mattered. pronouns pathetic

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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            12 days ago

            Even scarier once the story made it clear that the Major's original biological form was unclear in both ethnicity and gender and that ultimately that no longer mattered.

            wow, an example of material existence influencing ethereal essence through precedence. Woke French existentialist philosophy

      • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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        12 days ago

        it's because, again, chuds only have skin deep understanding of everything. They don't understand eroticism at all, they just go "big tits, big hips, this good" this is honestly very visible in any porn game or some such that allows you to create the characters, all of them are incredibly uninspired buckets filled with all the things they think are hot, with no rhyme or reason.

        I'm reminded of coming across a rule 34 animation that didnt actually show anything nsfw, it just implied sex. It was a clever work with camera angles, shadows and paper walls. There were so many chuds really fucking mad for "being deceived" it was hilarious

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          12 days ago

          Those are some good insights and observations.

          I can even relate them to mainstream porn in general: a lot of it is downright gross, showing unflattering angles that are basically saying "CONFIRMED, flappy balls and asshole in le Reddit glorified jackhammer motions" and such.

          Some downright softcore or even non-porn erotica is a lot more sensual and exciting without ever showing that.

          • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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            12 days ago

            Some downright softcore or even non-porn erotica is a lot more sensual and exciting without ever showing that.

            yea crush

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              12 days ago

              There's a 1990 movie called Ghost with a pretty famous scene involving pottery. volcel-judge

              • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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                12 days ago

                that's great and all, but it's too hetero for me badeline-bruh

                n-no wait w-what I mean is that I would never betray my volcel oath basil-anxious-smile pls dont take me to horny jail

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      12 days ago

      It's not really an "assumption," but here are some reasons:

      It features a female character who is:

      1. Normal
      2. Pretty.
      3. Sexy.
      4. Feminine.
      5. Doesn't dress & look & behave like a man and/or androgynous being.

      All those things are extremely anti-SJW, as SJWs hate all of those things vehemently and constantly demand that they be removed from all games and that no woman should ever be allowed to be those things.

      And to a large extent, they have succeeded in achieving that goal, and successfully uglified, masculinized, and androgynized all female characters in ~95% of modern games.

      Hence why games like the Vagrant and the ones cited in the OP are now the rare exception rather than the rule.

      By the way, if you know of any anti-SJW games to contribute to the list, please add them. :)

      Of fucking course le Subverse got brought up immediately after this hog oinking.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      12 days ago

      It was pretty successful, so I wouldn't count it as a "go fash no cash" failure.

      Besides, its fandom is so malignant that I run the risk of heated-gamer-moment experiences here if I talk too harshly about that oh so "historically accurate 2 week jail sentences for murdering a lord's guards" treat.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          12 days ago

          Almost all "historical accuracy" involves us-foreign-policy and ignoring Moorish Spain as thoroughly as possible, as well as Mansa Munsa and for that matter the legend of Prester John. It was all a big ye olde flashbang for everyone.

          • TechnoUnionTypeBeat [he/him, they/them]
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            12 days ago

            To me, people doing flashbang in their fantasy betrays a complete and utter lack of creativity

            The hogs that love this shit will ho wild over centuries of fake lore about every random dipshit, but borders are still hard and immutable so that even world spanning empires had zero internal movement

            Like fuck I remember reading somewhere once that Romans specifically sent their auxiliary troops as far from their homeland as possible to avoid desertion/refusal to fight their countrymen. You're telling me with how many fantasy Romes exist, they were all fully cracker except for a single token "exotic" character? I basically have stopped reading the vast majority of white male fantasy authors and I say this as a white guy, this shit boring as hell

            • Landsharkgun@midwest.social
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              12 days ago

              My tidbit to add is that when the Mongols got to Europe and encountered stone castles that were harder to siege, they solved the problem by bringing in seige engineers....from China.

              They were doing that stuff on the reg. One of their demanded tributes was, essentially, skilled workers as slaves. They were very aware that they had a very particular skillset that didn't translate well to everything. So they took what they needed to run their empire and put it wherever it was needed - even if it was someone who knew how to e.g. do algebra.

          • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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            12 days ago

            I love how the Letter from Prester John was basically the original viral hoax. Part-way between a scam letter and spam, and it got turned into basically a chain letter for 500 years.

            Incredible trolling.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
              hexagon
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              12 days ago

              Prester John needs to move a lot of gold very quickly but needs the key to your granary to make it happen bait

  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    12 days ago

    Does the my-hairdo game count? I guess it sold a fuckload but seems to have fallen off, and Warner Bros was yapping about big console games being so unstable and unprofitable, lol.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      12 days ago

      It had a big up-front surge from wagon circling status quo warriors that wanted to rally in defense of their precious unexamined childhood treats (you know, virtue signaling with a performative gesture), and yes that made it profitable, but it did fall of pretty damn fast, so I say it counts.

  • Formerlyfarman [none/use name]
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    12 days ago

    Maybe ashes of the singularity, the engine is amazing, it had so much potential. But the story is brainworms, and even if you buy that, it's bland and uninteresting.

    In the end it didn't get the attention it could have had. Yes, part of that was the insane system requirements, but it was also the dog shit packaging.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      12 days ago

      dead-dove-1

      dead-dove-2

      The human race has expanded into the galaxy thanks to the wonders of the technological singularity. You have become so powerful that you can manage vast armies across an entire world that provide you with an ever greater galactic empire.

      Now, humanity is under assault by a new enemy. Calling themselves the Substrate, they seek to annihilate the human race from existence. You, as an up and coming member of the Post-Human Coalition, must deal with both this new menace as well as renegade humans trying to lay claim to their own worlds.

      "Annihilate the human race from existence?" Holy shit, they intend to kill humans to death! :AgonyTeacher:

      • Formerlyfarman [none/use name]
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        12 days ago

        Its much worse than you think. It's all silicon valley ideology about how these characters modeled after venture capitalists are so smart and the next step for humanity. Not even the hogs eat that slop any more.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          12 days ago

          Do you have some curated examples of that? The writing's already so bad that it'd be painful for me to dredge around to find it myself.

          I take it the enemy factions are straw commies or dae le space bugs or something.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    12 days ago

    I think Yandere Sim is art, unwantedly of course

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      12 days ago

      Like anything from the Marquis de Sade, perhaps.

    • gay_king_prince_charles [she/her, he/him]
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      12 days ago

      There is beauty in the switch case just as there is beauty in Van Gogh's heavy brushtrokes. The detail in the toothbrush is as tantalizing as a pointillist works. Yandere sim is the Sistine Chapel of games and will remain that way forevermore.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
        hexagon
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        12 days ago

        You could say that about roughly anything, including the striped-painted child SV temple on Little St. James. epsteingelion

  • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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    12 days ago

    I forgot that game was a thing. There really are better options out there if you're a pervert.

  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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    12 days ago

    I looked up David Jaffe to see if that hack had released anything since that shitty GaaS that looks like ass and subsequently going full mask off. He hasn't.

    • PKMKII [none/use name]
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      11 days ago

      Ah yes the “shooting blocks to proceed is bad game design” schmuck

  • daniyeg [he/him]
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    11 days ago

    there are just not many chuds to justify a good budget for a game. the whole go woke go broke thing is their game of pretending they are part of the majority. if they flinch even for a second and admit they are a minority their whole world shatters.

    also controversial opinion but maybe less sexy stuff in games? i would appreciate it honestly.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      11 days ago

      also controversial opinion but maybe less sexy stuff in games? i would appreciate it honestly.

      It's too bad it's basically a very hot take, but I feel the same way. Cheap lazy committee-designed awooga bores me.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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        11 days ago

        need more heartfelt cute stuff like Life is Strange that spawns entirely communities shipping characters. I'd rather see a thousand more games like that than the awooga shit. Like these people do know porn exists right?

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          11 days ago

          I am very pro sensuality and sexual expression in fiction. Cheap "thump against wall dry-humping" movie trailer gimmicks and especially SV for hog feeding's sake are nyet to me.

          • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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            11 days ago

            on an unrelated note, there is a new show about the Nautilus and crew that so far one episode in is extremely based and depicts the british and the East India company specifically as the evil fucks they are and it rules. I wish we got more high budget retellings of the classics that acknowledge the terrible shit of the era in which they were written.

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      12 days ago

      Helldivers 2 more than made back its budget, is very explicitly satire of American jingoism and imperialism, and only started getting consumer pushback from Sony trying to force PSN registration and locking out people who paid for the game already in like 160 countries

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      12 days ago

      Helldivers 2

      Helldivers 2 failed? I thought it was a huge success and that it was so on the nose that it managed to do what the Starship Troopers movie failed to do: make itself clear to most people that it was satire.

      • buh [she/her]
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        12 days ago

        I didn't read the entire title and completely misunderstood the point of this thread lol