If the planet isn't poisoned more and if workers (and the public in general) aren't killed for arbitrary reasons on a whim, ascension is canceled. pronouns

  • drowns [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    if we can't preserve this planet we don't deserve to go to a new one. We are the origin story of the sci-fi trope of an alien race that just goes planet to planet stripping resources and leaving.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 months ago

        "HUMANITY FUCK YEAH" slop fiction tends to tell on itself by claiming that the only way to stop the evil aliens is by being evil to aliens.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      my-hero "CAN'T PUT ALL EGGS IN ONE metabolic BASKET!" (he fucking said "metabolic" for real)

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    Why would I want to leave Earth? If you think this planet sucks, one without a biosphere is really gonna whoop your ass.

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      2 months ago

      Why would I want to leave Earth?

      I was thinking about this the other day. Earth is huge and well, was, beautiful, perfect planet to live on but people like musk have ruined it.

    • batsforpeace [any, any]
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      2 months ago

      maybe once the libertarian rich guys trash the planet they want a rich person only escape hatch

      edit: New Zealand bunker villa is not exotic enough

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Agreed, though I would like to go see what's out there some day if I get the chance (to turn in to an incredibly robust form capable of surviving the long, long trip slow-boating to another sun)

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 months ago

        I've had a lifelong fascination with space and a deep and painful yearning to explore the stars, which is why it hurts so fucking much that those dreams have been hijacked by billionaire manchildren that actually lack a child's imagination on top of it all and just want to imitate what's already on their screens in the clumsiest performative way.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 months ago

          Hard agree. They read Heinlein in 1986 and made it their entire personality, never reading another book again.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Because the treats said that it would be a le epic Science Victory to land on Mars, and a Nolanesque epic moment would happen with Zimmer style BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMS and humans would ascend so-true

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      And the trend was something like "for every new environmental regulation you need to repeal 2" under Trump. Did Biden ever change that?

      • fox [comrade/them]
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        2 months ago

        I'm fine with consolidating regulations until we have just one, which is that the CEO and board of directors are annually submerged into the pollution produced under their watch. Better make sure that wastewater is clean before you pour it into a river!

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      2 months ago

      it's going to end up being a paid hit by the Saudis and thus so, so dissatisfying

  • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    can we just fucking fire this shithead to Mars already if he wants it so much

    I am sure we could crowdfund a $1 donation campaign nationally to do this

  • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    lol libertaryans really think if we had less regulations than the pitiful ones we have now, they'd get their Galt's Gultch.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      They already try Galt's Gulches, over and over again in basically lawless parts of the Earth, and they fail pretty fucking fast over and over again, often from internal backstabbing and fraud.

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Okay but hear me out, what if we tried it again, but this time in S P A C E??

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 months ago

          Literal vampire Th!el admitted seasteading was a failure, and then in the same speech said that's why spacesteading is next. galaxy-brain

          • fox [comrade/them]
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            2 months ago

            Sure it fails when there's free breathable air, a comfortable temperature, many ways to simply leave, and it's easy and cheap to ship supplies, but what if none of those things were true, and also any equipment malfunction wasn't merely inconvenient but actively life-threatening?

    • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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      2 months ago

      hexbear-shining has entered the chat.

      In case anyone hasn't seen it or would like to see it again: https://newrepublic.com/article/159662/libertarian-walks-into-bear-book-review-free-town-project

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 months ago

      They will actually, but not the utopia, but what really happened - some people will get all the wealth and they will be left with nothing in the desert.

    • Hexboare [they/them]
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      2 months ago

      And of course, we did have less regulations. No regulations at all at the start

  • fox [comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    You don't understand, what's the point of continuing as a species if we aren't expanding nonstop? Are we just going to let the sun continue to radiate more energy per second than humanity has ever used in total? That's energy we could theoretically use to do something at some point!

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      stonks-up brain applied to, well, everything would make humanity a galactic menace to any intelligent life out there if nothing else was changed except how far the "externalizations" went.

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 months ago

    These guys can never articulate how government regulation actually prevents space travel, it's always just a vague gesture towards "inefficiency." It's just a mantra to them. They repeat it hoping that if they say it enough times it'll become true.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      It's a boomer take, or at least a boomer-mindset take: "dang gubmint always in the way and I'd be rich and successful and living it large if gubmint went away" grill-broke

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Profit is an inefficiency baked into any private endeavor. It's a fact. A portion of the capital must be siphoned off instead of being reinvested. Otherwise there's no fucking reason to do it that way.

  • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    Bruv even the worst conditions on earth are more liveable than your mars pipedream. Even when climate change ravages this planet thanks to idiots you pander to it will be still be more liveable. He hates unions increasing liveable wages for his workees so much he did a mask off, does he have any idea how much it costs to keep people up on the ISS? Hell the cost per pound to get there? Yeah ait go ahead. He should take the trip

    • Thallo [love/loves]
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      2 months ago

      If you can terraform Mars, you can certainly terraform Terra!

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Capitalism will never Terraform Mars. It is, however, on track to Marsform Terra.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      He's treating society and the planet like some speedrun of a Civilization game where the player gets lazy, allows everything to deteriorate, and just pounds the "end turn" button while dumping everything into the Le Science Victory win condition.

      Except such a thing doesn't fucking exist but he's doing it anyway.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      NGL, I have to hand it to Pokémon for inadvertently predicting Elon Musk.

      Look up Both Lysandre and team flare

      found Lysandre Labs and create the Holo-Caster. He seeks to create a beautiful world by destroying every Pokémon and human not part of Team Flare.

      "I want to be the kind of person who gives... But in this world, some foolish humans exist who would show their strength by taking what isn't theirs." "They're filth!" - actual Lysandre quote that sounds like something muskrat would tweet

      The Chosen One: His understanding of Mega Evolution has led him to conclude that there's only a very few people and Pokémon capable of having genuinely beautiful souls. Team Flare is his idea of how to collect as many "chosen" as he possibly can together before erasing every last not-chosen being from the world.

      Evil Malthusian: He's become a misanthrope convinced that he must wipe out the "unproductive fools" that are "consuming our future" to preserve the world's resources, and so wants to use an ancient superweapon to kill every human and Pokémon not within Team Flare.

      Omnicidal Maniac: He seeks the utter destruction of all humans and Pokémon not loyal to him. At least Cyrus intended to recreate the world and every person/Pokémon in it, albeit in his own image. This man is set on clearing living space for his group via genocide

      Politically Incorrect Villain: There's just no way around it; the man is an incredible elitist. Only beautiful things (beautiful things that will never change, at that) are valuable. He regards most people as selfish filth. Then there's the really (or at least comparatively) subtle bit: You can't join Team Flare, and thus be spared from the cleansing of the world, unless you pay 5 million right up front. Considering the rough equivalence of the game currency to yen, and yen being roughly equivalent to American cents, you have to be willing and able to "donate" about $50,000 to be let in. There is no way anybody born into the lower economic echelons is getting in. Just to punctuate it, being fine with the "wane" part of natural existence is detestable. He's clearly uncomfortable with Diantha's lack of worry over her glamour eventually fading, when it's the duty of the beautiful to stay beautiful for all eternity. Compromise with the not-highest is not acceptable.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    I think what he means is he should be allowed to do human experiments at SpaceX and Neuralink.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Probably. He isn't getting enough Mengele jollies from cruelty to non-human primates.

    • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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      2 months ago

      What he needs to do is get a Neuralink prototype installed in his own skull and rig it up to his Tesla Model Le Sexy Sex Cyberchariot and take it for a spin somewhere secluded with a lot of speed bumps

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 months ago

    These dorks give science fiction a bad name. Like calm down melon it's going to take a little bit before we can harness all energy falling on earth from the sun k?

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      my-hero is a dream peddler and a lot of "I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE" treat hogs don't bother to stop and think about what the dream peddler is actually capable of, even if he got everything he wanted.

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Better to remain trapped on Earth than to contaminate the galaxy with capitalism.

  • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    Space travel has only ever been done by governments. Even the so-called private space corps are all propped but by government contracts. The profit motive is the true bottle neck