Also it's rationale not rational

  • AstroStelar [he/him]
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    2 days ago

    Notions like "the best defence is offence" and a preemptive/preventive war have existed for a long time, to be fair. It's just that this isn't the first time Israel or the US have pulled that card and it never worked. Hezbollah was founded the first time Israel invaded Lebanon ffs.

    Even if it did work in this case, it would be short-sighted, as the injustice in Palestine would continue and it's just a matter of time before things blow up again. "No justice, no peace" and all that.

    • Barabas [he/him]
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      2 days ago

      Both Hamas and Hezbollah are products of Israeli belligerence. The only real way to get rid of them while keeping Israel trucking along is complete genocide.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 days ago

    I hope Orwell is down in hell watching his precious western capitalism turn in to exactly the absurd caricature of Communism that he shat in to the world. I hope he's screaming down in the ice with the other traitors.

  • Balthier [none/use name]
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    2 days ago

    USA is concerned that Israel is attacking an enemy that can actually cause damage to it. Thats not the modern imperialist way. You should only start a war where you can cause 10x more casualties than you receive. The 2006 Lebanon war didn't go so well for Israel. Looks like Israel is all-in on national self-destruction.

  • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 days ago

    "De-escalation through escalation", a proud intellectual descendant of "made desolation and call it peace" and "kill them, for the Lord knows those that are His"

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 days ago

      "Lethal aid"

      And, i hate to say it "war is peace"

      How the fuck did Orwell ever actually believe that applied to the Soviets I don't know.

    • Thallo [love/loves]
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      2 days ago

      We have to kill civilians because they will become future combatants in response to us killing civilians

    • lil_tank [any, he/him]
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      2 days ago

      Georges Orwell when the system he diligently defended becomes the exact dystopia he accused its enemies of being

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 days ago

        anakin-padme-1 Britain is an impoverished surveillance state cut off from the world where the people are horribly oppressed by an elite ruling class that hates them and exists only to reinforce their misery

        anakin-padme-2 I knew this would happen if my beloved Albion fell to Stalinism!

        anakin-padme-3

        anakin-padme-4 they're communists, right? Right?

      • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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        2 days ago

        Hey, it's an old fascist trick: Always accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.

  • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
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    2 days ago

    Makes sense, considering the Democrat's foreign policy people are basically the same people from the Bush Administration.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 days ago

    There's a fucked up old black and white science fiction movie where astronauts go to "Planet X" and... freak out and kill everything in sight because what they find are basically just Earth life forms except larger and just sitting there. The feeemale of the crew screams, they shoot. And then again, and again.

    Eventually, the rocket takes off after leaving a magical nuclear weapon that blows up the entire planet. The narrator voice says, at that moment, "we brought civilization to Planet X."

    This has that energy. mission-accomplished

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    2 days ago

    The tried and true colonialism tactic of "what if we made everything more extreme, that will calm things down."

    Let's ask South Vietnam how that went.

      • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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        2 days ago

        oh wow its real

        Fire can be used to fight forest fires, albeit with a certain amount of risk. A controlled burn of a strip of forest will create a barrier to an oncoming forest fire as it will use up all the available fuel.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            2 days ago

            Remember that one dude in Australia who back-burned around his house and ended up the only intact structure for miles during the bad fires a few yeas ago?

        • REgon [they/them]
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          2 days ago

          Sometimes you also do it in urban environments, though normally you'd just chop down the surrounding houses. It's pretty wild.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            2 days ago

            High explosives are used to put out oil well fires. Not sure what the theory is there, though.

            • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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              19 hours ago

              My guess would be the shockwave disperses the fuel and deprives it of oxygen, like blowing out a really really big candle.

      • Moonworm [any]
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        2 days ago

        The fire of the oppressed's desire for liberation cannot be starved as long as the oppression continues. The wildfire only finds purchase when it is not given more fuel.

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    2 days ago

    In my head I hear John Kirby at a press conference tomorrow "Look, I briefed the president on the 'de-escalation through escalation is some brain genius stupid shit' meme that's trending. He is aware but he will not be commenting on that. So - Mike listen Mike - no more questions about that. That's final. That goes for the rest of you too. Moving on..."

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 days ago

      That mistake always drives me crazy.

      The one that gets me every time is when someone says "conscious" when they mean "conscience." burgerpain