• keepcarrot [she/her]
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    1 month ago

    Given how reactionaries behave here, how they lie about the poor, lie about queer people, lie about their international enemies as easily as breathing, why would anyone believe their claims about what happened to them in a communist country?

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    1 month ago

    Vietnamese liberals are more annoying than Chinese liberals. I remember someone from Vietnam telling me about Fullbright University and how they showed students there a video on American soldiers during the Vietnam war and the liberals were actually in tears because they “had no idea how hard it was for American soldiers.”

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      The more I learn about the Vietnam War, the less and less sympathy I have for its veterans. I'm at the point of "They weren't actually spat on, but they should have been. Probably flayed."

      Unless you deserted, mutinied, or defected, you're on par with the Wehrmacht at best and more likely to have been the SS at worst.

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        I have plenty of sympathy for Vietnam War veterans.

        spoiler

        The ones who fought against the imperialist pigs, that is. uncle-ho-2

      • CleverOleg [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        How the IOF is conducting itself in Gaza is reasonable approximation for how the US military conducted itself in Vietnam.

        • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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          1 month ago

          Not a fucking lick. Not one.

          They could've gone to Mexico or Canada. They could've dusted their TI at bootcamp FTX. They could've blown their CO away at the front. They could've just defected and tried to blend into Vietnamese culture. Instead, they chose to murder people they'd never met at the behest of people they'd never have a paygrade to stand in the same room as.

          There's always a choice. They chose wrong. I have no sympathy.

          • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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            1 month ago

            Was that a person using the Nuremberg defense for Americans in Vietnam? Lmao

            • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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              1 month ago

              "Poor and vulnerable soldiers" horseshit. Muhammad Ali literally stood on his square and said "ain't no vietnamese man ever called me n/" and paid the social price for it; but I'm supposed to feel sorry for peckerwoods who "just followed orders"? Fuck outta here man

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      1 month ago

      Showing footage of the eastern front to the class to talk about how hard it must have been for the nazis to do all that walking

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    I would simply learn that communism was good after a very short time in the camp so I got released faster, but I guess I'm built different.

  • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    And what was your great uncle's occupation before being put into that camp, hmm? I have the feeling he wasn't a plumber.

    • CleverOleg [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      A few years ago, there was a video that went viral of a Cuban gusano (in a MAGA hat no less) who pulled up a picture on her phone of her dear grandpa who the evil communists murdered. He was just a respected police officer, according to her.

      Turns out, because she showed the picture of him, people were able to identify who this “dear grandpa” was. He was actually known to history. He was one of Batista’s henchmen who tortured and murdered quite a few people. As many at the time pointed out, that guy absolutely got what he deserved and executing him was cool and good.

  • Yukiko [she/her]
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    1 month ago

    That's a lot of words to say that your great uncle owned slaves.

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 month ago

    Maybe it's because my family are all absolute pieces of shit human beings who would lie about everything, but I really don't get why these people take "my grandfather told me" as proof it must be true. Maybe your grandfather is a lying sack of shit who is mad the communists took away his slaves?

    • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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      1 month ago

      Maybe your grandfather is a lying sack of shit who is mad the communists took away his slaves?

      And in one sentence, you just described every Cuban boomer expat I've ever known.