• Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    26 days ago

    Note that she admits obama-sad was the one who started it. Then Trump wanted to ramp it up. Now she wants to look non confrontstional in building more and basically puts some meritocracy bs to immigration "you have to earn it."

    No discussions of the consequences of our foreign actions and that directly leading to these waves of refugees.

    I really want a reporter to ask why we don't melt the Statue of Liberty if that is what they truly believe and want wrt to immigration now. Obviously the give us your tired, your poor, yearning to be free banter is not what the parties stand for any more. It'd be political suicide suggesting the destruction of a national icon, but I kind of want them to fall on their own sword with this.

    • miz [any, any]
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      26 days ago

      if we melted it down we would have enough metal to make a whole lot of child cages

      • BobDole [none/use name]
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        26 days ago

        Ripping the copper walls off the statue of liberty along with the rest of the wiring. Real 2024 capitalism hours.

    • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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      26 days ago

      Bill Clinton started it under Operation Gatekeeper.

      There were iterations of walls for decades. They all just kept it going.

    • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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      25 days ago

      Reminder that America's initial love for immigration came from the need to populate the empire with loyal white soldiers who could hold it against blacks and the indigenous, the same way Israel loves immigration (only if it is white jews).

  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    26 days ago

    That is incredibly surprising of Vanderbilt child and former CIA intern, Anderson Cooper to call her out. It's a shame the pressure didn't lead to her head doing something that took them both out. wowee

    • somename [she/her]
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      26 days ago

      To be honest, I imagine there's a segment of the deep state/bourgeois that are pretty opposed to overdoing the immigrant panic thing. If politicians go too far, it could blow back by harming their undocumented work force. There's that golden mean of keeping them disenfranchised and distrusted, so they're isolated and desperate, but also that their position in aggregate is stable enough to keep business steady.

      Or it's also possible he just saw blood in the water and decided to pounce.

      • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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        26 days ago

        Possible there's far more rumbling out there about it than they're comfortable carrying water for it, as well. CNN does have a brand to worry about and they have to maintain some level of legitimacy to manufacture the consent for the important stuff.

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    26 days ago

    holy fuck that was worse than I could have imagined.

    She is definitely gonna eat shit lmao.

  • culpritus [any]
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    edit-2
    26 days ago

    Build The Wall trump-kubrick-stare
    Strengthen Our Border jokermala

    same-picture both-sides

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    26 days ago

    Remember AC is a Vanderbilt.

    But phew she's squirming. Imagine how much imposter syndrome you feel when you genuinely are a complete fool asked to do something very public and complex like run for president.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      26 days ago

      It can't be that hard:

      "So, WDYMP, you have been a vocal supporter of communism."

      "Yep"

      "And part of that involves breaking up big tech companies"

      "For sure. Fuck those guys."

      "How do you propose to do that? Do you have a plan?"

      "Unions, Anderson. I'd get like 5 unions out of Google to talk to already existing unions."

      "So you would just have the people working there... take over the-"

      "Yeah, the means of production, Anderson."

      Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Getting Fact Checked Real Hahahaha Comrade Just Believe In Something Real Like Comrade Just Get Counseling From The Union Haha

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    26 days ago

    bazinga (wrong Cooper, deal with it) "You don't think it's stupid anymore?"

    contextphobic "He's stupid for not accomplishing anything on the project, which is stupid, that I fully support and will do better than him!"

    torment wowee explosion

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      26 days ago

      It would be funny if we started using Sheldok Cooper to refer to Anderson Cooper whenever he comes up.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        26 days ago

        That's effectively what she said. When Anderson Cooper tried to get her to clarify if she meant she wanted to build a wall, she replied "We need a stronger border"

          • quarrk [he/him]
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            25 days ago

            She definitely wanted to say that building the wall is a good idea. She didn't want to get clipped saying “Trump’s wall was a good idea” because that would be horrible for her campaign. Thus you get this yes-without-saying-yes bs.

      • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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        26 days ago

        Not as a direct quote (it is way closer than it should be..). More of a poetic license to highlight the absurdity of ~1:30 onward from the video

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    26 days ago

    Holy shit, if the Dems lose, they have no one to blame except themselves. This should be the easiest election ever, but they constantly squander it.

    • Vernon_Tennessee [null/void, he/him]
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      26 days ago

      I've been saying to people since biden dropped out that a lot of his terrible campaign staff was directly transferred to her. Not to underestimate their ability to fuck this up.

      If she literally even supported conditioning aid to Israel and focused on abortion this would be a slam dunk.

      • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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        26 days ago

        This should be even easier than 2016 was, because back then, Trump was still new. Now, he's already been president, he's incredibly unpopular, he had a fucking felony conviction, and there's MUCH less enthusiasm for him from the Republican base.

      • Meh [comrade/them]
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        26 days ago

        It's even worse because a lot of the Labour campaign staff hopped across the pond to do a shit job for the Dems as well

  • catonkatonk [none/use name]
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    26 days ago

    On the plus side, if they've now adopted "build the wall", we might only be eight years away from "lock her up" being official dem policy.

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      26 days ago

      They are on a fast track to rehabilitating Trump before the election is even over. If Trump wins they'll be all civility and bi partisan. They are locking themselves into helping him with anything he wants rather than be you know..an opposition party for 2 years and then lame ducking him for the last 2 after 2026.

  • Andrzej3K [none/use name]
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    26 days ago

    Omg we're genuinely going with "hahaha do you remember how funny Trump was eight years ago hahahaha"

  • Yor [she/her]
    ·
    26 days ago

    you're telling me the candidate that couldn't even lead the primary in the state that elected her is doing poorly? anya-heh

  • spectre [he/him]
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    26 days ago

    I truly believed "anyone but Hillary" could rout trump on an election without too much trouble, but this is extreme loser energy, I can't believe how over it is. any swing state hog that they imagine who they were trying to triangulate with this is just gonna be like "wow that's smug as hell, I'll just vote for trump so I don't have to listen to that crap".

    Once again, it's to be expected when you bring a bunch of loser clinton advisors on to your campaign. Where tf are Obama's people? At least he won?? Just lie like he did it's not hard hooolllly shit. Everything they do is to try and grab Republicans and they sieck so so bad at it.

  • xiaohongshu [none/use name]
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    edit-2
    26 days ago

    I dunno, if I’m a rich Republican donor who’s thinking about jumping from the Trump sinking ship, this is a pretty convincing one.

    Harris is pointing out Trump’s incompetency to fix the immigration issue and how she, and the Democratic Party, will be the competent party who can get it done for the Republican donor class who have lost a lot of money under Trump and made it back under Biden.

    Again, they going after the Republican donors, not their voters.

    • Hexboare [they/them]
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      26 days ago

      If you're a rich Republican donor, you don't want them to actually strengthen barriers to migration because your firm runs on undocumented labor or undocumented workers so your landscaping and look after your kids.

      You want immigration to continue to serve as red meat as the Republicans cut taxes and ease regulatory costs on your business (either by weakening them or strengthening them specifically to make it more difficult for new market entrants to get a foothold)

      • Spongebobsquarejuche [none/use name]
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        26 days ago

        Yup, immigration scare mongering is what gets the hooting chuds all worked up. It's not an actual concern. Which is why Dems using it is lame.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      26 days ago

      The rich donors she's courting employ the undocumented immigrants Kamala is threatening to deport, and she's explicitly saying that she's not just going to scare people with rhetoric about them, she's actually going to deport their workers