• RustyVenture [he/him]
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    3 hours ago

    agony-deep Man how much lower can this worm dig? Almost glad he never had a shot to sit on the genocide king’s throne.

    Sorry people aren’t as willing to abandon their morals and fall in line for a pyrrhic political ghoul as you, Bernie.

  • isthecumsafe [they/them]
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    5 hours ago

    One year ago my brother told me "European politicians are Nazis but at least Britain has Corbyn and America has Bernie." deeper-sadness

  • PurrLure [she/her]
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    6 hours ago

    Democrats are getting desperate. Even the most casual DSA leftists have stopped trusting every word out of Bernie's mouth for at least a year now.

    Does he even use the word "genocide"? As soon as he used the worn down harm reduction argument, I tuned out.

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 hours ago

      morshupls He has never used the word genocide, except to dismiss the charge of it as it would incrimate the entire US government. Yet is careful to not mention that fact, except he does admit it is wholly complicit in what's going on there.

    • mathemachristian [he/him]
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      6 hours ago

      Did he actually say harm reduction?? That would be amazing, like he is admitting that they are doing harm and won't stop.

      Like their campaign promise officially is "we aren't as harmful".

      • PurrLure [she/her]
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        5 hours ago

        I had to turn it off at about 1:10, the bot below has a safer link.

        He basically says yeah it's bad, but Trump and friends are worse. flattened-bernie

        • mathemachristian [he/him]
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          5 hours ago

          Oh I'm not watching that, thanks though 👍

          seriously though there is spineless and then there's spineless while maintaining the illusion of walking upright.

          • PurrLure [she/her]
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            5 hours ago

            Omg I made the mistake of watching further. He says that if Trump wins "the struggle with climate change is over" LIKE KAMALA ISN'T PRO FRACKING AND PRO INFINITE ECONOMIC GROWTH YOU FUCKING HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK shoulder-grab

            Yeah no this video is ragebait for leftists and a circlejerk for libs. Do not recommend. They're out of touch if they really thought this would get them new voters.

  • Adkml [he/him]
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    7 hours ago

    Damn the democrats are fucking ruthless. Can't believe they're making him film a video telling everybody else to just abandoned anything even resembling a value like he did.

    That heart attack gun better be fucking real.

    • Kuori [she/her]
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      4 hours ago

      it's not, he's just a monster like the rest of them.

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    7 hours ago

    I’d love to know how many people this actually appeals to. Are there really that many “progressives” happy to see someone who once inspired them simping for the establishment that cucked him so bad?

    Although based on the YouTube comments people love this shit what-the-hell don’t read them if you don’t want psychic damage

    • SubstantialNothingness [comrade/them]
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      5 hours ago

      Honestly at this point I think Bernie's currently vocal "supporters" are actually conservative Dems using him like a cudgel to guilt-trip and exploit progressive voters into moving to the right. Bernie doesn't seem to mind playing right into their strategy - maybe he doesn't know, maybe he doesn't care.

      At the same time I don't think progressives are even a functional political bloc anymore which makes it all kind of funny. It's like the conservatives crossed the finish line and won the race 4 years ago, but they didn't realize it so they're still out there running all by themselves.

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    7 hours ago

    While it would have been funny if he had announced his unconditional support of the Al-Qassam brigades a week before the election, I guess we live in the real world where this happens instead. There shouldn't be any disappointment. We knew what his position was going to be.

  • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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    9 hours ago

    Depressing. flattened-bernie was greatly influential in pulling liberals leftward, yet also serves as a block against further movement.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    9 hours ago

    I assume that a significant number of people here became leftists because of a brief ephemeral momentum that Bernie Sanders was the figurehead of. This has to sting a bit.

    • Dessa [she/her]
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      7 hours ago

      What turned me to the left wasn't Bernie per se, but how the DNC was exposed to be cheating in Hil's favor and how the Wikileaks report that exposed it was buried by the media.

      There was a clear party interest in opposing leftward movement, and a clear media collusion in that.

      This greatly disillusioned me

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        7 hours ago

        The "coin toss" rituals were such an obvious ratfuck during the primaries: ever watch the videos of the "coin tosses?" The loyal ghouls doing them caught the coin, glanced at it, then set it down on the arm. what-the-hell

        It doesn't take a math teacher to tell someone that 9 coin tosses out of 10 going to hillgasm on actual fair coin tosses is very, very unlikely.

          • Hexboare [they/them]
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            5 hours ago

            There was some obscure coin toss thing in Iowa to determine delegate numbers in the primary, Hilary "won" six in a row with a ~1.5 percent probability

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            5 hours ago

            I watched it happen live, one toss at a time. All my faith in the DNC died that day.

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      6 hours ago

      He was at least an amerikkka politician I had some respect for. I'd already lost all respect for him because of his groveling for Biden and finding out that he voted in favor of bombing Serbia, but his neocon and Israel lover arc has made me give me strength to comrade heart attack.

    • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]
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      8 hours ago

      It definitely pushed me to examine my own chauvinism, even if i had considered myself a radical long before Bernard

      Still, it was wild to have a shred of optimism

    • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      7 hours ago

      I'm not even from the US, but it was inspiring to see what he was doing out there anyways... ah well, nevertheless

    • Chronicon [they/them]
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      9 hours ago

      it's stopped stinging by now but yeah, it did the first time

      definitely wasn't the only thing that radicalized me but it was that era

    • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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      8 hours ago

      Wonder what the numbers are or how folks here got pushed to it. For me just being from the global south I found it in other ways.

  • Yor [she/her]
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    9 hours ago

    continues to only disappoint. pathetic

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    10 hours ago

    Bernard "Genocide Defender" Sanders strikes again

    • micnd90 [he/him,any]
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      9 hours ago

      We thought he was Genosse Sanders, he's actually Genocide Bernard

  • micnd90 [he/him,any]
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    9 hours ago

    Why even bother trying and add salt to injury? Just ignore this issue and have the decency to tell us sweet lies like Obama did. These fucks are useless, khallas fam, khallas

  • plinky [he/him]
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    10 hours ago

    Does bernie support bds? Or only bibi bad politics

    • Redcuban1959 [any]
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      10 hours ago

      “While I do not support the BDS movement, we must defend every American’s constitutional right to engage in political activity. It is clear to me that this bill would violate Americans’ First Amendment rights.” - Bernie Sanders, 2019

    • catonkatonk [none/use name]
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      10 hours ago

      I saw him answer that question by saying that he's against sanctions on principle, look at how much damage they're doing to Cuba etc. Unreal.

      • edge [he/him]
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        9 hours ago

        Even though he voted for sanctions on official bad guy countries like Russia and Venezuela.

        • neo [he/him]
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          9 hours ago

          Did he actually? I'm not finding record of this

          • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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            9 hours ago

            He says he’s a big fan idk though https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-iran-and-russia-sanctions/

            • neo [he/him]
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              9 hours ago

              even in this statement

              But I believe that these new sanctions could endanger the very important nuclear agreement that was signed between the United States, its partners and Iran in 2015. That is not a risk worth taking, particularly at a time of heightened tension between Iran and Saudi Arabia and its allies.

              I'm not finding any evidence that Sanders has ever voted for a sanction in a final bill. It kind of doesn't matter anyway, because the president just unilaterally imposes sanctions, it seems.

              • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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                6 hours ago

                If he says he supports them in principle but opposes this instance, then the original comment where he says he opposes them on principle is false