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  • crispy_lol [he/him]
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    3 hours ago

    Chinese has the oldest cuisine and the best food culture and I worry about it bc the only export from the US that succeeded culturally and monetarily is the goddamn fried chicken and borger.

  • Gorillatactics [none/use name]
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    4 hours ago

    Westerners have been pushing genetically modified rice on developing countries under the guise of fighting malnutrition. It sounds noble until you realize that changing the genetic structure of food is seen as preferable to distributing income so that people can buy some damn vegetables. The diet of the poor is always treated as a problem of inputs with no regard for culture or taste.

    • Hexboare [they/them]
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      3 hours ago

      I think I recall something on how at the least the first enhanced rices made no nutritional difference

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      5 hours ago

      Gotta find the hidden Chinese food court in your area that takes a ten dollar bill and gives you a box of delicious food packed into a dense brick by the closing of the lid

    • QueerCommie [she/her, fae/faer]
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      5 hours ago

      thonk I always feel like Thai is a scam for its excessive rice and noodles (flavor and nutritional valueless). Refrying it with a bunch of vegetables is pretty awesome tho.

      • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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        4 hours ago

        its great flavor but come the price of the dishes is not remotely close to the price of its ingredients. their profit margins are absurd to the point its a scam

      • uSSRI [he/him]
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        3 hours ago

        My local good Thai restaurant is now $5-$10 more expensive than other restaurants of similar quality. Might be something to that

  • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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    5 hours ago

    I can't find it now but there was an amerikkkan hit piece on China from early COVID lockdowns about their free food boxes not containing enough meat for a person to survive.

    • dat_math [they/them]
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      edit-2
      5 hours ago

      not containing enough meat for a person to survive

      That's weird. The amount of meat required for a person to survive is exactly 0 grams.

      • Hexboare [they/them]
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        3 hours ago

        on eating a vegetable the white US gut microbiome attempts to kill the host

  • Lussy [any, hy/hym]
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    5 hours ago

    Is there a source on this? There’s no way India eats that little amount of vegetables. The majority don’t even eat meat, so if this is accurate, their diet is literally just bread or they’re flat out not eating

    • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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      5 hours ago

      I imagine this map isn't counting legumes/lentils as vegetables. The Indian diet, especially vegetarian, is heavily lentil based. Lots of paneer (basically a cheese that also functions as a tofu-like ingredient for many dishes) too, and of course breads and rice as you mentioned. Also potatoes. I imagine most of those aren't considered vegetables by whatever source this map is using.

      EDIT: Also of course India isn't nearly as vegetarian as people imagine. The surveys are kind of variable, but we're reasonably only sure somewhere between 20-30% of Indians are vegetarians per:

      • https://indianexpress.com/article/india/more-men-eating-non-veg-than-before-nfhs-data-7920932/
      • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-43581122
      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country
    • jackmarxist [any]
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      2 hours ago

      Speaking from experience, the Indian diet is like 90-95% bread or rice and people eat something else (Veggies, Daal or meat) only for flavour. Too many carbs too little protein.

    • Chronicon [comrade/them]
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      4 hours ago

      https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/vegetable-consumption-per-capita betting this is where they sourced it, FAO presents it at the supply level, the per capita figures are probably OWID's doing? Hilariously this probably also means the US figures are even lower due to home food waste not being accounted for

  • dat_math [they/them]
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    6 hours ago

    Amerikkka clocking in at just over 126kg/capita

    enjoy that constipation burgerbrains

    • plinky [he/him]
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      edit-2
      6 hours ago

      Is it even possible? Maybe it's some calculation error

        • Chronicon [comrade/them]
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          edit-2
          4 hours ago

          this sent me down a rabbithole and hot damn that website is rough to use

          I found the first usable data digging into this one: https://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/FBS

          with options looking like this (just hit select all to get all measures on that top right box):

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          seeing figures on the same order as whats listed in the OP:

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          except it's continued to increase lol

          • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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            4 hours ago

            I was on the site trying to get those combinations to work. You did it

        • Chronicon [comrade/them]
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          5 hours ago

          https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/vegetable-consumption-per-capita betting this is where they sourced it, FAO presents it at the supply level, the per capita figures are OWID's doing

      • chickentendrils@lemmy.ml
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        4 hours ago

        I think it's accurate for China. There's lot of veggies in dishes in China everywhere I've been. This is pre-cooked weight certainly. I'm in the US and definitely more vegetarian than average but each week I go through a head of broccoli, 500g-1kg of bok choy or gailan, mandolin + pre-prep 6 large onions (>2.2kg) & 10-12 bell peppers (usually ~1.5kg), a couple 250-300g sweet potatoes, and 3-4x384g bags of frozen spinach.

    • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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      5 hours ago

      China's meat consumption overall is around 60kg, putting it 56th in the world. If you don't count Hong Kong (which lol at being #1) the United States is #1 with over double, 124.11kg per person. The settler/rancher states of Australia, Argentina, New Zealand, Spain (obvi not a settler state but lots of ranching), and Israel round out the top 6 of meat consumption, all at around 100kg+.

      Per here:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption