https://hexbear.net/comment/3791457
my plan is to take all the fascists and read them Harry Potter and explain how they're the Slytherins and liberals are the Gryffindors
meanwhile you tankies are the death eaters
Critical support to the guy who kidnapped a racist and made her watch all of Roots then let her go though
Too bad the :LIB:s' solution would be to make them watch Hamilton.
I have no idea and no source, but I definitely heard that once so I'm believing it's true
lol don't fashies love American History X because "omg look at the cool badass Nazi putting that [n-word] in his place"
I immediately thought of a virulent racist that loves that movie.
100% this.
My dad was a neonazi and American History X was one of his favourite movies (along with a locally produced movie about neonazis which follows along similar lines to American History X, although it was made decades prior) because he saw it as representation of his views.
He didn't give a fuck about the moralising twist at the end of these movies. He literally just enjoyed the fact that he was being represented in movies.
He was completely unreceptive to "the message" of these movies. It did zero to change his views.
Fucken libs, man... they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Just because they received a particular message from a movie that resonated with them doesn't mean that it's going to be the same for everyone.
This is classic LibBrain bullshit. They do the same thing by universalising their attitude towards government or their experience of society and just assuming that everyone feels the same way and has the same experience of things that they do, based on zero real-world experience and investigation.
I have said it before and I will say it again: one funny black guy making a neo nazi not racist anymore is the lib equivalent of evangelical media portraying convincing others to convert to Christianity as easy.
Libs: Listen man all we need is like 10,000 Daryl Davis and all this shit will be smoothed over
Same deal with the bazingas that see the Galactic Empire in Star Wars as "based" and even say "it would actually be great to live under it if you obeyed the law."
I think that joke started from the fact that the republic had slavery and the empire didn't. Sadly it kinda quickly stopped being a joke. It's also interesting how we're sorta presented with a Dems Vs republicans in that meme - there's either the republic or the empire, there is no third option despite the three first films being about a rebellion working to create something new.
Then of course JJ shits the bed with his mystery box and "Skywalker saga"and the empire didn't
They were pretty fucking brutal with the Wookiees for one, and that goes back to old 1970s canon including the Star Wars Holiday Special. If they weren't enslaved, they were definitely being given "reservation" treatment on their own home planet.
Oh yeah for sure. I'm not really up on my star wars lore. As far as I understand it the joke sort of started because Anakin and his mother is a slave in I, but there's no "slaves" in the original trilogy, which then makes people wonder how that is, which leads to a humorous observation.
The text is pretty clear that the empire is worse than the republic, but that's the joke I guess
"Sure the text says the empire is worse, but the republic had slaves haha funny observation".
Then people sort of started running with it and you end up with unironic empire stans.Like it's just a silly joke noticing one discrepancy (slaves Vs no slaves) without focusing on the bigger picture (brutal political repression, genocide of minorities, apartheid regime, religious repression, etc.).
I don't think it was meant as something that could stand up to scrutiny, which is also why it's so strange it led to actual empire stans.
It's also what makes it more ironic to me because the empire stans go "well the empire was better than the republic" (never mind wether it was or not) and completely ignore the rebellion posing a viable alternativethe joke sort of started because Anakin and his mother is a slave in I
Well, ackshually, Tatooine wasn't part of the Republic, so that doesn't count as slavery in the Republic.but there's no "slaves" in the original trilogy
So the woman chained up in Jabba's palace until she was fed to the rancor wasn't a slave?
Again, I'm not saying it's good or correct or anything. It's a simple joke, as I've said. It doesn't hold up to any scrutiny.
It's a glaring on-screen omission that the reactionary meme missed from the start so I'm baffled.
They're not going to do a detailed material analysis on the conditions of the Empire, because nobody would care about that, and that would bore everyone except super nerds.
Pretty sure it started out of simple contrarianism, using troll logic to find reasons why the empire are the heroes despite all evidence to the contrary - stuff like pointing out the empire reduced unemployment on alderaan to 0%.
Yes, and the director realized this at some point, tried to use the Allen Smithee name to get his name off of it, but it was too late.
"Noooo, killing Nazis makes you just as hateful as the Nazis!", I yell, as my black and queer neighbors are being arrested and transported to a nearby Nazi concentration camp for being untermenschen.The premise of American History X doesn't even bear out this stupid fucking idea. The story isn't about a guy watching a movie-as-cautionary-tale. It's about a neo nazi idealist who has his ideology crushed to smithereens by the consequences he endured as a direct result of that ideology. Fascism came home and ruined his life and his family. He hit rock bottom.
You know what also has a rock bottom? The
The story of redemption isn't him just leaving the life. It's also him trying to save his brother and other disaffected kids from doing the same. He is going to live a life trapped inside the box his younger self placed him in. He's out of the prison he didn't make and now inside the one he did make. He'll be there forever or until fascism dies.
I might not be the smartest about analyzing film but I always thought the entire point was that he couldn't call it even just because he called it quits. There was work to be done.
fuck do I know
Literally the only correct statement in that whole thing. Make them watch a film, what a dimwit.
The
habit of accusing people that disagree with them of mental illness, with the implication that mental illness makes them bad and despicable people, is far, far too common. 
AHX is a terrible film to deradicalize someone with. It doesn't actually even begin to address why the viewer should not be fascist.
Considering how 4chan liked the movie, i think we can agree that it didnt work
I always enjoy reminding people how actual nazis were treated by liberals i.e. with kid gloves.
cw for the link: mentions of bbq'ed nazi and a lot of handwringing about sorting the fash into harry potter houses instead of actually judging them for their crimes:
so cool that the timewall is gone, I've been looking for that post
thanks and thank you to the devs
I suppose I could have brandished my weapon or shot in the air, but I was not inclined to do so.
Holy shit lmao
I don't have a plan at all but I know someone smarter than me can come up with one.
Oh wait someone smarter than me DID come up with one? Okay but not that one!
How authoritarian to make someone watch a movie
That's what they do in North Korea, they make you watch the movies that Dear Leader made with kidnapped movie stars and if you don't clap at the end, your seat flips upside down and drops you into a cave where you're forced to mine popcorn the rest of your life
mine popcorn
jfc, what I would do for a popcorn mine. I would go there for a week every month with a wheelbarrow of chocolate and some pillows and my pickaxe, and the world would be a better place for everyone.
Fascists will be killed not because we hate them, but because we love them. There. Problem solved.
Most Americans are mentally ill because they can't afford to see a therapist.
I hate everything about this sentence.
They just need to watch one movie and they will stop hating jews, gays, blacks, women, etc.
It worked for Kanye. Has anyone tried showing them 21 Jump St?
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