https://xcancel.com/guapunzel/status/1859608483219357908

  • Poogona [he/him]
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    11 minutes ago

    Sometimes I wish humans had more of the dimorphism these essentialist types seem to believe in, that way I could have a big red dewlap or colorful plumage

  • Edamamebean [she/her]
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    2 hours ago

    Wow... This explains why men don't know about the womb pouch, and how it's literally impossible for women to have a flat stomach because our superior internal organs stick out. Women stay winning 💅

    • Kuori [she/her]
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      31 minutes ago

      god poured a can of bud light onto a plate of baby back ribs. voila, man.

    • BountifulEggnog [she/her]
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      59 minutes ago

      Maybe she misunderstood ancestral eve to mean all humans descended from her, not just all modern humans?

    • Esoteir [he/him]
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      2 hours ago

      i mean that part is technically true, just uhh, like 1.2 billion years ago when some algae invented sex, but brains didn't exist back then so shrug-outta-hecks

      • Barabas [he/him]
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        2 hours ago

        Wouldn't it have been male ones that diverged from the hermaphroditic model first? Think there are some slugs that are only hermaphroditic and male, but I've never heard of hermaphroditic and female.

        • Esoteir [he/him]
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          1 hour ago

          afaik parthenogenesis is not hermaphroditism and is a strong indicator that the female sex existed first

    • BashfulBob [none/use name]
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      3 hours ago

      It's the Chicken-Egg dilemma. You can't have a man without a woman first. Therefore, men evolved second.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    6 hours ago

    Does she realise that this shit is sexist to women too? "Our brains are just different so women can't play chess" is a misogynist trope.

    Also being like "Men are the big muscle Bois that protect us weak woms" is a slap in the face to any woman that uses their strength for a living. Fuck any woman in construction I guess they should go home cause their bodies weren't evolved for it.

    • BashfulBob [none/use name]
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      3 hours ago

      "Men are dumb."

      "Now men are disagreeing with me, when I am objectively correct. Thus furthering my point."

      "Men are getting mad at me for saying this, which proves they are overly emotional and not logical at all."

      "Men are threatening me! This proves that they are thuggish, thick-headed lumpen thugs!"

      "Men have removed my account from the website! I am being censored, which proves I am correct!"

      "I have now landed a seat on The View. I will be so excited to raise this discourse to the national level."

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      4 hours ago

      😭 is up there with 🤣 as a clear sign someone is malding over getting owned

  • ButtBidet [he/him]M
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    6 hours ago

    I do get why women hate men. We absolutely deserve it, and I'll never complain when I see it. But obviously lib bio-essentialism isn't the solution.

      • ButtBidet [he/him]M
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        3 hours ago

        I've definitely deserved hate in the past, I'm definitely no ideal. Other times it's been terrible experience from other men, which honestly is understandable.

        • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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          3 hours ago

          That's much closer to the right idea, that you're able to recognize and respect why others feel the way they do, and have self-awareness of your own flaws. The idea I'm trying to get at with the question is really just that if you understand and respect why people hate you, that this is in fact very different from feeling like you "deserve" their hate, if that makes sense.

      • ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]
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        3 hours ago

        I want to explicitly preface this comment to state that lib bio-essentialism isn't the solution. I just need some theory to know what is the answer.

        That said, what kind of response do you expect ButtBidet to give? If ButtBidet says no, you effectively get:

        #notallmen

        https://www.zawn.net/blog/hello-youve-reached-the-not-all-men-hotline

        If ButtBidet says yes, the justification that follows would be on the basis of the patriarchy existing and putting men in a privileged position... which seems to be wandering right back into lib bio-essentialism territory.

        • iridaniotter [she/her]
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          2 hours ago

          If ButtBidet says yes, the justification that follows would be on the basis of the patriarchy existing and putting men in a privileged position... which seems to be wandering right back into lib bio-essentialism territory.

          What.

          No, the patriarchy existing is not bio-essentialism! Neither is white supremacy existing race realism! What the fuck! These are social systems that justify themselves through such pseudoscience but in reality are 100% social and thus can be overthrown.

          • ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]
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            2 hours ago

            No, the patriarchy existing is not bio-essentialism

            I wasn't intending to claim that — the patriarchy can and should be overthrown. The patriarchy harms people of all genders.

            I was thinking of a particular line of reasoning following from it to justify men deserving hate (for instance, "men deserve hate on account of being men, because they are in a system where they are privileged") might be though.

            I guess you're right that a better line of reasoning could follow, e.g. men, exploiting this position of privilege and thus inflicting harm, deserve hate as a result.

        • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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          3 hours ago

          Really I was just trying to laconically poke at the notion that "men deserve hate" without having any specific answer in mind. I figured that if the question amounts to "Is your own statement true?", and the question could not be answered with either a simple yes or a simple no, that it would become apparent that something was wrong with the statement itself.

    • BashfulBob [none/use name]
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      3 hours ago

      I do get why women hate men.

      Damn. Crazy how we just take statements like this at face value.

      • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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        36 minutes ago

        The gist is "understanding". You may understand and accept why someone holds a belief without agreeing with someone's reasoning.

        Additionally i did not read this comment as "all women hate all men", rather it was a comment implying an understanding of the real issues women face and the bad behaviors men engage in

      • iridaniotter [she/her]
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        2 hours ago

        Don't we make jokes about being crackers on this site all the time? It's the same thing. No one says not all white people here.

      • Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]
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        3 hours ago

        Fear of sexual violence is a real motherfucker, isn't it? Hating and fearing all men is a trauma response to living in patriarchy.