It seems to really have alienated a number of people and prevented them from posting. This is a great shame because I felt that hexbears’s momentum and place of online leftism was really starting to shine in the days after the election. This is the most important time for there to be an alternative on the left and we’re wasting it, with what appears to be the start of another struggle session caused by mods unilaterally deciding things.

I don’t really have a solution or more to say, more just this dump of feelings

  • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]
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    1 month ago

    Just keep posting. If the poster ahead of you should upvote the wrong post and be banned, pick up their keyboard and press onwards

  • dannoffs [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Nothing more leftist than fucking up the vibes for no reason at the worst possible time.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    edit-2
    1 month ago

    I've tried my best to stay out of the struggle sessions but it feels like the mods keep doing foolish things and pissing off people more and more. HB does feel a lot slower and I hope it's not because people are afraid to upbear/post.

    • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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      edit-2
      1 month ago

      look i love this stupid website and the admins do good work but also their motto is "if it ain't broke, absolutely fuck with it"

      countless such instances

    • real [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      1 month ago

      It absolutely is, there has been a strong decline in site activity since the struggle sesh. Hexbear was among the most active I’ve seen directly beforehand.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    1 month ago

    Sure it was the struggle session? Even now I feel the details of the session fading away like fingerprints on an abandoned handrail

    I feel like it's more post-election malaise, same thing happened back in 2020 after Biden won, alot of bored posting, and I'm leavin, I'm back, I'm leavin, I'm back posts too

    • dannoffs [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      I definetly think the struggle session had some impact but I've personally been posting less because I hacked my 3DS and have been playing DQ7 nonstop.

      • BGDelirium [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        @dannoffs 3ds OG, XL, or new3ds?

        I have a 3dsXL but everything I read says that the new one is the best way to go for hacking

        • dannoffs [he/him]
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          1 month ago

          It's a new3dsXL, I don't have any experience with hacking the OG 3ds/3dsXL but from what I've seen the the biggest difference is that the new3ds can emulate SNES.

        • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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          1 month ago

          AFAIK new can do slightly more, but i jailbroke my 3dsxl the other week and haven't hit any roadblocks yet.

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
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      1 month ago

      I feel like the almost back-to-back "Dunk Tank" struggle session and then "Upvote Ban" struggle session probably burned a lot of people up. :/

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        1 month ago

        then "Upvote Ban" struggle session

        I completely missed that one, but since neither of them come close to the vegan debacle of 2021, I feel it's safe to assume the site will survive this short period of unrest

        Like I said before, I think alot of these micromanaging debates over forum engineering stem from a misplaced frustration with the state of the world AS WELL as the continuing failure of federation over a year after it's launch, on top of the embarrassing and increasing 4chan-fication of lemmy as a whole

  • Palacegalleryratio [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Yeah, I’m not exactly a power poster. I just like hexbear as Reddit but with far less shitty politics and cooperate astroturfing. However with these moderation struggle sessions I just find hexbear is less appealing. Hexbear is clearly a very important space to some people and who are getting very upset over things. And I think these events between these users and mods are chilling the community. It’s not a warm welcoming space to bring in new users and encourage interaction and exploring the community. Imagine your first interaction with the site: you open it up and the front page is all pinned posts about stupid drama. Even as a reasonably regular user I haven’t got time to read them and frankly don’t wish to. I’m sure I can’t be the only one who feels this way.

    FWIW on the current issue, I think upvotes are good for surfacing interesting content. That’s why Reddit was so good, it crowdsources the curation. A million users is a better sorter of content than a desk of moderators acting as content editors. They’re open to manipulation sure. But I’m not seeing too many issues on hexbear.

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Yeah it has been slow. Sucks. Genuinely are little concerned that we've reached a fulcrum, and without further action we're about to see the spiral of slower boards-->fewer people bothering to check Hexbear-->even slower boards-->new people who stumble upon HB who would otherwise have joined now just see it as kind of slow and empty like lemmygrad-->death

    • real [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      1 month ago

      Yes some real change needs to be made. I think anyone who has the time and is concerned about the sites future should apply to be a mod (with the newest mod drive) to try and do a lib and change the system from within.

    • miz [any, any]
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      edit-2
      1 month ago

      I think we were bound to get a lull after the election madness and the multiple-month crescendo of bullshit. people are partly recovering from that

      • propter_hog [any, any]
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        1 month ago

        I firmly believe with zero evidence that post-election weariness and anger caused the struggle session. Tensions were high.

  • Yukiko [she/her]
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    1 month ago

    I think it's more that a lot of posts are getting consolidated into the megas. Which is good, but also bad.

    • SpookyGenderCommunist [they/them, she/her]
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      1 month ago

      Nah it's bad. Megas are cool for general discussion, but a forum like this relies on standalone posts. Otherwise, you're just making a discord server with extra steps. And there's a reason I'm here and not on discord ¯_(ツ)_/¯

      • Yukiko [she/her]
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        1 month ago

        Hence the bad part. The good part is that each individual comm can modify the rules to its needs.

  • Sophie [she/her]
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    1 month ago

    not being allowed to bully libs has really ruined the soul of this subreddit (website), bring back hexbear cyberbullying pls doggirl-tears

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    1 month ago

    Every struggle session is like this. Folks will trickle back in with alts and mostly it'll be fine.

  • red_stapler [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    The news mega is poppin; God’s in His heaven All ’s right with the world!

      • miz [any, any]
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        1 month ago

        I'm personally satisfied with the mod explanation on that but I understand why it might not be enough to remove fears for others. I trust that this whole experience will help it stay rare and for egregious circumstances

        • propter_hog [any, any]
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          edit-2
          1 month ago

          I mean, I do too, but goddamn, pump the fucking brakes a little. It's like each day there's some new shit we have to keep in mind while interacting with the site.

  • Gorb [they/them]
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    1 month ago

    It's ok I'm gonna post butts to bring everyone back

    • propter_hog [any, any]
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      edit-2
      1 month ago

      As long as they're pretty butts. I don't want to see Elon's butt, for example.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      1 month ago

      No a bunch of people were up voting some tailist shit and mods used the view up vote tool to see who was agreeing with it and some folks caught some strays. Only temp bans were issued over it and tbh I think most of them could have been corrected verbally unfortunately this is not that sort of medium and some of our lgbtq and poc comrades were uncomfortable with a particular comment being up voted so much. Was it an overcorrection? Perhaps but it is not the massive problem people are making it out to be.

      I am on team remove upvotes.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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      1 month ago

      No it was the rock stackers complaining about outdoor cats knocking down their Babylonian towers

    • Infamousblt [any]
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      1 month ago

      It was Beanis posters vs fake news posters. The fight of the century