Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can't remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you're on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won't bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you're interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I'll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I'm going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I'm going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the "Lhamana" and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a "middle" as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won't go in detail here because I don't feel qualified to summarize it, but it's in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don't refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn't an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There's probably some cultural significance to this, but I'm not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women's work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

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    • pooberbee (they/she)@lemmy.ml
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      6 hours ago

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin_Delaware#Treatment_of_gender

      More of linguistic interest, Pidgin Delaware, a simplified amalgam of local, indigenous languages used for trade with Europeans, used two linguistic genders. Unlike European languages, however, the genders aren't masculine and feminine but rather animate and inanimate.

    • Thallo [love/loves]
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      13 hours ago

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muxe#:~:text=In%20Zapotec%20cultures%20of%20Oaxaca,seen%20as%20a%20third%20gender.

  • gaystyleJoker [she/her]
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    9 hours ago

    hi, does anyone wanna make the mega in the upcoming weeks? if so, reply to this post and i'll add you to the list!

    the list as it stands:

    SwitchyWitchyandBitchy (12/2 - 12/8)
    HelltakerHomosexual* (12/9 - 12/15)
    GayTuckerCarlson* (12/16 - 12/22)
    AshenWolf*  (12/23 - 12/29)
    Eco* (12/30 - 1/5)
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    EstraDoll (3/2 - 3/8)
    

    ​ * after name denotes someone who has posted before and will be skipped by first-time posters

  • AshenWolf [she/her, they/them]M
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    28 minutes ago

    I got gendered correctly today. Had someone calling out "sir, sir", trying to ask me for directions. I turn to face them, and they look confused. "Sir, Ma'am, I can't tell with the mask on". I took my shot, put on my best fem voice. I had mastered the talk-no-jutsu, my voice training was about to pay off. I looked at the person, and proceeded to ignore most of the training, just changing pitch and speaking more softly. It still worked, I got called ma'am. They later apologized for getting it wrong, and I just said no worries. No eyebows. No stare. No disgust.

    I've done it, I've won :keikaku:

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    1 hour ago

    Miaut voran mit festem Schritt sabo

    Arbeitercatgirls, kommt ihr mit? catgirl-salute

    Wir sind die queere Garde des Proletariats left-unity-4

    Wir sind die queere Garde des Proletariats trans-hammer-sickle

  • Yor [she/her]
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    3 hours ago
    surgery stuff (positive)

    finally argued my case hard enough that the surgeon I'm going with says he feels comfortable moving forward with insurance authorization

    lost respect for him over the last month, but I don't really need to respect him for him to do surgery. I'll take the W

    now back to electrolysis once again. 😅


    I've also learned all the hiragana and katana characters and can remember them without reference transshork-happy

    need to learn more words and kanji now. it was really intimidating to finally start learning japanese, but it's really not so bad once I got used to it. I can slowly start reading words in media I like and that's so exciting, even if it takes me so long for now

    • rtstragedy [fae/faer, she/her]
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      32 minutes ago
      unsolicited and frankly overbearing excitement about learning japanese

      i found some success with anki + flashcards in the beginning after learning the hira/kata. there was a deck on anki web (or was it anki connect? you can just download them) that had voice lines and slowly introduced kanji and vocabulary, so you're learn full sentences. on the back side there'd be furigana.

      i soon moved on to watching a lot of shows with japanese subs and a dictionary open (using the mpv script to make flashcards and auto-clipboard the text subs for faster lookups). i watched Non Non Biyori (for easy language), then Bocchi this way (only saw it with English subs for the first time last Friday...) as well as re-watched a couple seasons of Kaguya-sama (this one was much harder language...). it was kind of both incredible and also kinda depressing that a single 20 minute episode turned into a 3 hour affair, but i think when I finally got the jokes I appreciated it way more...

    • MusicOwl [comrade/them, sie/hir]M
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      1 hour ago
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      You have to do electrolysis again? Ouchie. I did not expect that after already having so much hair removal!

      Congratulations on moving forward with the surgery. So glad you got a surgeon that is on board for you to get the body you’re comfortable in.

  • Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's]
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    3 hours ago

    I saw my mom for the first time in a few months today, and she asked me if I'm aware I'm starting to look just like her and that seeing me was basically like seeing herself catgirl-huh

    Officially in the estrogen making you look like your mom gang

    • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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      41 minutes ago

      I still look like my dad but more and more yassified and femmed up at least. I do a lot of the same stuff my mom does which is horrifying, lean my head back the same way she does to read, same jokes, etc.

  • whatnots [he/him, it/its]
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    3 hours ago

    i love my fatness! i love my queerness! my fat queer body is beautiful and sexy!!!! kirby-spin

    • hexbee [she/her]
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      17 minutes ago

      Hell fucking yes, let's gooo ᕙ⁠(͡⁠°⁠‿⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)⁠ᕗ

    • Hestia [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 hours ago

      I'm sorry you feel that way. Being trans is amazing. I have never felt as empowered as I do now. I have never felt as happy as I do now.

      And that's all because I've accepted myself. I'm sorry that the world we live in has broken you down to the point where you are considering taking such actions. I hope you learn to accept yourself, and what a powerful experience being trans is.

      • PopPrincess [she/her]
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        3 minutes ago
        thoughts CW: unhappy musings about being trans

        Idk it feels kind of dismissive to state that being trans is amazing, I feel like trans people shouldn't be obligated to like being trans. Sure many people find happiness in being trans, but there are many of us who don't. Personally, my life would be a million times better had I just been born a cis girl. Being trans has mostly brought me debilitating dysphoria, restriced me in so many ways and taken so much from me that I'll never have the chance to experience.

    • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]M
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      2 hours ago

      Hi you're free to repost this comment but please add a CW and spoiler. The image linked below shows what to press and you can use the preview button or feel free to message or reply to me with questions if you have any trouble with it :)

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  • Hime [she/her]
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    4 hours ago

    I did a module on social anthro and women's history and it covered similar bits. Best part of uni and it was only a side module.

  • iridaniotter [she/her]
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    6 hours ago

    How do you talk without your vocal chords deciding to randomly sound like they're sick for the next 24 hours sometimes

      • iridaniotter [she/her]
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        5 hours ago

        How do you talk with your vocal chords without your vocal chords deciding to randomly sound like they're sick for the next 24 hours sometimes

            • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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              39 minutes ago

              omg my western canadian slang slipped out noooooo

              To be hooped = "to be beset with unfortunate circumstances that seem difficult or impossible to overcome; screwed"

              • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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                38 minutes ago

                This is almost as bad as when I say taco like a Minnesotan or when I let "beaking off" out or bavvin'

                • iridaniotter [she/her]
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                  edit-2
                  20 minutes ago

                  Yeah I'm cooked but I was hoping it's just a skill issue!

                  edit: oops meant to reply to the previous comment but whatever!