Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can't remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you're on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won't bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you're interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I'll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I'm going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I'm going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the "Lhamana" and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a "middle" as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won't go in detail here because I don't feel qualified to summarize it, but it's in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don't refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn't an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There's probably some cultural significance to this, but I'm not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women's work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

That's all for now! To wrap thing up I would like to invite yall to our public matrix server! https://matrix.to/#/#tracha:chapo.chat

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    • pooberbee (they/she)@lemmy.ml
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      7 hours ago

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin_Delaware#Treatment_of_gender

      More of linguistic interest, Pidgin Delaware, a simplified amalgam of local, indigenous languages used for trade with Europeans, used two linguistic genders. Unlike European languages, however, the genders aren't masculine and feminine but rather animate and inanimate.

    • Thallo [love/loves]
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      15 hours ago

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muxe#:~:text=In%20Zapotec%20cultures%20of%20Oaxaca,seen%20as%20a%20third%20gender.

  • gaystyleJoker [she/her]
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    11 hours ago

    hi, does anyone wanna make the mega in the upcoming weeks? if so, reply to this post and i'll add you to the list!

    the list as it stands:

    SwitchyWitchyandBitchy (12/2 - 12/8)
    HelltakerHomosexual* (12/9 - 12/15)
    GayTuckerCarlson* (12/16 - 12/22)
    AshenWolf*  (12/23 - 12/29)
    Eco* (12/30 - 1/5)
    oscardejarjayes* (1/6 (The Darkest Day in Our Democracy.) - 1/12)
    
    EstraDoll (3/2 - 3/8)
    

    ​ * after name denotes someone who has posted before and will be skipped by first-time posters

  • yewler [she/her]
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    56 minutes ago

    I stood up for myself and my gender for the first time today. A friend kept degendering me and I asked him not to.

    Kind of a small thing but I feel proud of myself since I've always had a poor self esteem

  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    21 minutes ago
    LIFTING UPDATE

    So I am STILL not lifting yet, it's been like a month. I stopped taking tramadol and like I wanna get back, but Idk if it will make it better. What if without the pain receptors being numbed, it'll just hurt and be excruciating and I die? What if I rot instead???

    I like that my chronic pain/fatigue is maybe stopping me from doing the thing that could make my chronic pain/fatigue less bad.

    catgirl-cry I am never going to be the beautiful muscledyke........ tfw not athletic........

    In other news I have the most creeping feeling that Fallow isn't a one-run game and that stuff changes, more than just the sealed door, if you play it again. I'll have to go back and puzzle over it. Give it more kisses, my beloved.

  • Josephine_Spiro [she/her]
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    2 hours ago

    Feel like I need to stop using this site because I need IRL friends since I'm very lonley, but all the queer groups in my area are full of radlibs and Zionists :( Like its unhealthy to have my main form of social interaction outside of my job be this website, but there is very few people who will click with my interests and queerness

    • ashinadash [she/her]
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      16 minutes ago

      its unhealthy to have my main form of social interaction outside of my job be this website,

      Universally or personally speaking? 'Cause I ended up in your situation, for so many reasons.

    • Hestia [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 hour ago

      The trans group chat is pretty cool. And there's a decent level of separation from how hexbear is. Join us sometime catgirl-heart

      • Josephine_Spiro [she/her]
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        39 minutes ago

        I joined it briefly when it came out but the volume of messages was too much for me, as I was either feeling like I was missing out on something, or I would be flooded with notifications. Thanks for the recommendation though

    • rtstragedy [fae/faer, she/her]
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      16 minutes ago

      maybe this is weird of me, but i kinda see bearsite as a means to an end these days; I see it as a place to find people with my interests and who i like talking to, and hopefully I can build something deeper with them. I also find tracha a little overwhelming so i don't chat too much, but I do like me some small groups or 1-on-1 things.

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    2 hours ago
    cw yankee electoralism

    i got the most pathetic liberal comment on youtube after i said the blue team are just doing blue fascism and it's beyond pathetic how libs start waking up now again when the red team starts doing red fascism (it's the same fascism)

    " you realize the “blue team” is not for that? You do realize that right??? And this song was during when “the red team” was in power still. "

    each question mark just fills me with more joy marx-ok this was under a RATM song because it's topical to fight against the machine again for the next four years

    the song was released while Clinton was in office too! like goddamn

  • AshenWolf [she/her, any]M
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    2 hours ago

    I got gendered correctly today. Had someone calling out "sir, sir", trying to ask me for directions. I turn to face them, and they look confused. "Sir, Ma'am, I can't tell with the mask on". I took my shot, put on my best fem voice. I had mastered the talk-no-jutsu, my voice training was about to pay off. I looked at the person, and proceeded to ignore most of the training, just changing pitch and speaking more softly. It still worked, I got called ma'am. They later apologized for getting it wrong, and I just said no worries. No eyebows. No stare. No disgust.

    I've done it, I've won :keikaku:

    • ashinadash [she/her]
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      43 minutes ago

      Just according to keikaku dont-laugh

      It is fuckin awesome when you can slack and still get gendered correctly, which for me came with time, feels great tbh...

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    3 hours ago

    Miaut voran mit festem Schritt sabo

    Arbeitercatgirls, kommt ihr mit? catgirl-salute

    Wir sind die queere Garde des Proletariats left-unity-4

    Wir sind die queere Garde des Proletariats trans-hammer-sickle

  • Yor [she/her]
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    4 hours ago
    surgery stuff (positive)

    finally argued my case hard enough that the surgeon I'm going with says he feels comfortable moving forward with insurance authorization

    lost respect for him over the last month, but I don't really need to respect him for him to do surgery. I'll take the W

    now back to electrolysis once again. 😅


    I've also learned all the hiragana and katana characters and can remember them without reference transshork-happy

    need to learn more words and kanji now. it was really intimidating to finally start learning japanese, but it's really not so bad once I got used to it. I can slowly start reading words in media I like and that's so exciting, even if it takes me so long for now

    • rtstragedy [fae/faer, she/her]
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      2 hours ago
      unsolicited and frankly overbearing excitement about learning japanese

      i found some success with anki + flashcards in the beginning after learning the hira/kata. there was a deck on anki web (or was it anki connect? you can just download them) that had voice lines and slowly introduced kanji and vocabulary, so you're learn full sentences. on the back side there'd be furigana.

      i soon moved on to watching a lot of shows with japanese subs and a dictionary open (using the mpv script to make flashcards and auto-clipboard the text subs for faster lookups). i watched Non Non Biyori (for easy language), then Bocchi this way (only saw it with English subs for the first time last Friday...) as well as re-watched a couple seasons of Kaguya-sama (this one was much harder language...). it was kind of both incredible and also kinda depressing that a single 20 minute episode turned into a 3 hour affair, but i think when I finally got the jokes I appreciated it way more...

      • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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        1 hour ago
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        but i think when I finally got the jokes I appreciated it way more…

        Such a fun reward for learning more of the language. Like, I barely know anything, but its fun being able to point out things like how the hair color and names of the generation of miracles in Koroko's basket relate and makes their names a lot easier to remember. Given how little I know, yet sometimes notice things like that, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of other things just because of the language barrier.

    • MusicOwl [comrade/them, sie/hir]M
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      3 hours ago
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      You have to do electrolysis again? Ouchie. I did not expect that after already having so much hair removal!

      Congratulations on moving forward with the surgery. So glad you got a surgeon that is on board for you to get the body you’re comfortable in.

      • Yor [she/her]
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        2 hours ago
        spoiler

        the surgery site itself is fine, but I need to clear the donor area. for me that'll be forearm, so hopefully it goes quickly. not looking forward to the cost of that again lol

        thank you tho cat-trans

  • Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's]
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    5 hours ago

    I saw my mom for the first time in a few months today, and she asked me if I'm aware I'm starting to look just like her and that seeing me was basically like seeing herself catgirl-huh

    Officially in the estrogen making you look like your mom gang

    • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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      3 hours ago

      I still look like my dad but more and more yassified and femmed up at least. I do a lot of the same stuff my mom does which is horrifying, lean my head back the same way she does to read, same jokes, etc.

      • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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        59 minutes ago

        I expect to see my half-siblings for the first time since before covid soonish. Last time we met (was the first time I met any of them), the sperm donor also was there (and his son), and people seemed to agree I was the offspring that looked most like the donor. Kinda curious if people will think the same still. I think I look more like my sister now than pre-E, but not really sure if I look anymore like my birthmom and I might actually look less like my actual mom (whom is not related by blood) as a result.

  • whatnots [he/him, it/its]
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    5 hours ago

    i love my fatness! i love my queerness! my fat queer body is beautiful and sexy!!!! kirby-spin

    • hexbee [she/her]
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      2 hours ago

      Hell fucking yes, let's gooo ᕙ⁠(͡⁠°⁠‿⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)⁠ᕗ

    • Hestia [she/her, comrade/them]
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      4 hours ago

      I'm sorry you feel that way. Being trans is amazing. I have never felt as empowered as I do now. I have never felt as happy as I do now.

      And that's all because I've accepted myself. I'm sorry that the world we live in has broken you down to the point where you are considering taking such actions. I hope you learn to accept yourself, and what a powerful experience being trans is.

      • PopPrincess [she/her]
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        2 hours ago
        thoughts CW: unhappy musings about being trans

        Idk it feels kind of dismissive to state that being trans is amazing, I feel like trans people shouldn't be obligated to like being trans. Sure many people find happiness in being trans, but there are many of us who don't. Personally, my life would be a million times better had I just been born a cis girl. Being trans has mostly brought me debilitating dysphoria, restriced me in so many ways and taken so much from me that I'll never have the chance to experience.

    • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]M
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      edit-2
      4 hours ago

      Hi you're free to repost this comment but please add a CW and spoiler. The image linked below shows what to press and you can use the preview button or feel free to message or reply to me with questions if you have any trouble with it :)

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