https://xcancel.com.com/niccruzpatane/status/1859703871507247493

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    will cost much less to maintain

    They break down constantly even when they aren't being shot at. Besides, the point of stuff like this is that it's proven, you wouldn't want to be an early adopter even if the Cybertruck wasn't garbage.

    showcases the pinnacle of American engineering

    I have to agree, just not in a complimentary way.

    • Lussy [any, hy/hym]
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      1 month ago

      As I see cars pass by I constantly think to myself why the fuck would you buy an American shitbox over a Toyota/Honda when it literally costs the same? Seriously, what the fuck is going on here?

      • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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        1 month ago

        Some older (circa 1990s-2000s) GMs and even Fords have better rustproofing than their Japanese counterparts, and even American manufacturers occasionally could design a decent engine, like the (non-supercharged) Buick/Pontiac/Oldsmobile 3.8L V6. For every 1997 Dodge Intrepid with the sludge factory 2.7L, there's about 0.001 2004 Buick LeSabres that would probably make it to 300k if the owners bothered to do basic maintenance on them.

        American car manufacturers occasionally had their moments. And shit, even Toyota isn't infallible -- sudden acceleration recalls aside, they had another major recall with 4 cylinder-equipped models in the late 2000s/early 2010s where they decided to change the style of piston rings to something that the engine wasn't designed for. The result was that the engine would consume oil at a pretty alarming rate; something like a quart per 500 miles. The fix was a complete engine rebuild (necessary in order to swap out the low-tension rings for the older style), and they did perform this work under warranty for new vehicles at the time, but there are plenty of old Camry, RAV4, and Corolla models floating around out there that never had the recall work done, and they're no longer eligible.

        This is all used market stuff, obvi.

        • Lussy [any, hy/hym]
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          1 month ago

          That’s a good point. Do you think American cars are generally more rust proof than Toyotas/Hondas?

          • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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            1 month ago

            Generally, they were in the 70s and 80s, when the import market was still relatively young. By the mid-90s or so, Japanese manufacturers had more or less caught up, but Toyota specifically had a few missteps around 2003-2009 where rustproofing completely failed on their truck frames. Their other models have a bit of a reputation for rotting out extremely quickly once the rust starts; I'm not sure if it's something in the composition of the alloy that they use, or what, but it was kind of eyebrow-raising to hear, given how impeccable most of their engineering is.

            More recently, they've been including rust treatment under warranty, but it sounds like it's just a silicone-based coating that they spray on once and do not reapply. Either way, if you have a Toyota or Lexus and the body is showing signs of rust, get it treated ASAP. Lanolin-based treatments (e.g., Fluid Film or Woolwax) work really well, but have to be reapplied at least yearly (and you have to avoid spraying the undercarriage at car washes). Avoid POR15 like the plague; once it fails, it fails catastrophically.

            ...I may or may not have spent the past six weeks down a research rabbit hole because I own a Toyota that is starting to rust side-eye-1

      • 7bicycles [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        I'd argue cars are like the first lifestyle product in the post world war 2 sense. Many many many many people don't buy them as machines, where you'd look at like gas consumption or repairability or cost per mile or anything statistic, they buy them for what they represent.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          1 month ago

          I remember trying to be picky when i got my car. But everything in the class was nearly identical. In the end it came down entirely to ceiling height and visibility. : p

          • 7bicycles [he/him]
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            1 month ago

            I used to be a huge car guy and 50 brands owned by like 5 oligarchical companies all trying to develop the most sensible everyday 4 banger made me think "boy this is fucking stupid" and played a large part into turning me into a leftist

    • LeZero [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      showcases the pinnacle of American engineering (derogatory)

  • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Former WWE figure and Secretary of Transportation Linda McMahon was sworn in as the 48th President of the United States of America today after a known software bug caused a motorcade of administration leaders as well as members of the house and senate to reverse into a lake.

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      American engineering is so efficient actually, because the Twelve Colonies of Kobol had to create an entire species of malevolent androids to accidentally wipe their administration out to the point of the 19th person in line for the presidency to get into office.

  • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 month ago

    I don't get it... was the video of the guy shooting his CT with his 22 and putting a hole right through it not enough evidence that this thing isn't bulletproof.

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        1 month ago

        i can't believe he fucking did that on stage at the product reveal that shit was so fucking funny and the government is still giving him millions literally consequence free life we gotta kill this guy

    • CantaloupeAss [comrade/them]
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      1 month ago

      I didn't know all that about the president's car. When you need to start carrying bags of your blood type around, maybe the system has gone too far? Like, maybe in a functional system, the president should just be able to walk around normally?

      • Feline
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        1 month ago

        "The Beast" always carries the president's blood type. Normal thing in a democracy

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_presidency

        • CantaloupeAss [comrade/them]
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          1 month ago

          They don't have to look outside of DC to find the people who arranged that, maybe the car wasn't the issue lol

      • hello_hello [comrade/them]
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        1 month ago

        Yes but when Kim Jong Un walks among his people freely that's because of the cult of personality and totalitarian state, we Americans have the freedom to despise and hate our leaders that they're scared of us. /s

    • nandos_house_of_glues [she/her]
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      1 month ago

      that “beast” pic makes me want to do a 90s style action movie with generic Eastern European bad guys where the plot revolves around the fact that the drivers side window does open 3”

      • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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        1 month ago

        Poisoned dagger fitted onto a colonoscopy camera.

        They first cause a roadblock in the motorcade using IEDs, and take people in the crowd hostage as a human shield around their specialist to control the camera.

        The hero is an ex-troop turned traffic cop who's wife and daughter are amongst the hostages, now fighting for his life to save his loved ones and also his family (kelly).

        Title: Hard Shoulder

      • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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        1 month ago

        Not everyone has the time -- or the skills -- to do the Burton Guster Maneuver
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBiismLalCI

      • Infamousblt [any]
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        1 month ago

        Secret service says they can. In reality they would try, probably flip the vehicle, or hit something and be totally stuck. We've seen this year what secret service training looks like

      • miz [any, any]
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        1 month ago

        The narrowest J-turn was performed in a Renault Twingo, between barriers set 3.78 metres apart. The diagonal length of the car, 3.70 metres, meant stunt driver Terry Grant had a gap of 4 centimetres (1.6 in) on each side. This happened at the National Exhibition Centre in Birmingham, UK, at the PistonHeads show on 11–13 January 2008.

        that is really fucking cool

  • Hime
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    1 month ago

    Airforce 1 should be a big cybertruck with wings

      • Hime
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        1 month ago

        The headlines:

        "DIVORCED TECH ENTREPRENEUR KILLS PRESIDENT IN TRANSPORT DISASTER, BLAMES RUSSIAN BOTS"

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    1 month ago

    The future secret service

    Show

    Pls pls pls do this it would be so funny.

    I can't wait for the hilarious malfunctions and chaos that would result from that.

    Like secret service goons getting locked inside an updating Cybertruck. He shoots the lock and somehow the battery catches on fire.

  • Rom [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Cybertruck fleet will cost MUCH less to maintain

    doubt

    • sovietknuckles [they/them]
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      1 month ago

      Bazinga brains do this thing where they ignore reality because they've been told that things will be better in the future. Another example is supporters of generative AI, who ignore all the pollution that AI data centers cause, because they've been told that there's a whole energy efficiency revolution happening around AI right now

  • Adkml [he/him]
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    1 month ago
    1. Cost less to maintain.

    Source: I made it the fuck up

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      Technically if at the first damage you write off the entire thing because it's fucked that's 0 maintenance cost on a per car basis

  • mathemachristian [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    already comes bulletproof

    description of bodily harm

    There is this video of a guy showcasing how the cybertruck detects if something is blocking some door automatically closing and not closing it further, he tries it on a twig first, it fails twig snaps in half, "lets hope this doesn't happen to my finger haha", tries it on his finger ............... it doesn't snap in half, but it for sure is crushed. As in the bone.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 month ago

    You could hit the president's vehicle with an RPG and I sincerely believe it would shrug it off having seen how thick the armour is. The Cybertruck is a tin toy by comparison. This is a stupid idea and Trump would never go for it, he knows.

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      The beast has self contained climate control so it can survive a gas attack it's got full systems to recycle internal air.

      The cybertruck can't go through a car wash because it's just got wires sitting in channels that fill up with water.

      • grazing7264 [they/them, comrade/them]
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        1 month ago

        Don't forget the doors fail and lock you inside the car in the event of battery failure! (i.e car battery fire) 🔥🚗

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      • TheDrink [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        (as opposed to a tank of gasoline, which as we all know isn't incendiary)

        • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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          1 month ago

          You can at least put out a gasoline fire through conventional means and gasoline has a much higher autoignition temperature than you'd expect. Lithium fires, on the other hand, hoo boy... It's the difference between a moist firecracker and a brick of C4.

          Edit: Typo/fact check, again -- gasoline has an absurdly low flash point (minimum temp to emit fumes), but a somewhat high autoignition temperature (what it sounds like); I was thinking of diesel.

          • TheDrink [he/him]
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            1 month ago

            Gasoline has a fairly high flash point

            Gasoline's flash point is -45 degrees celsius, what you're referring to is the autoignition temperature, which is up at 280.

            It's true that lithium fires are much more intense than gasoline fires, but Data from the National Transportation Safety Board showed that EVs were involved in approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 sold. Comparatively, approximately 1,530 gasoline-powered vehicles and 3,475 hybrid vehicles were involved in fires for every 100,000 sold.

            I'm not here to defend melon-musk , but misinformation is misinformation. Stop wasting your time scaremongering about EV fires when they happen about 1% as often as gasoline fires.

            edit: There's a better source on this from a study in Sweden, because the NTSB doesn't claim to have complete data on EVs in America. Quoting from the article:

            According to MSB data, there are nearly 611,000 EVs and hybrids in Sweden as of 2022. With an average of 16 EV and hybrid fires per year, there's a 1 in 38,000 chance of fire. There are a total of roughly 4.4 million gas- and diesel-powered passenger vehicles in Sweden, with an average of 3,384 fires per year, for a 1 in 1,300 chance of fire. That means gas- and diesel-powered passenger vehicles are 29 times more likely to catch fire than EVs and hybrids.

            • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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              1 month ago

              It's true that lithium fires are much more intense than gasoline fires, but Data from the National Transportation Safety Board showed that EVs were involved in approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 sold. Comparatively, approximately 1,530 gasoline-powered vehicles and 3,475 hybrid vehicles were involved in fires for every 100,000 sold.

              I wasn't talking about rates, I was talking about severity, specifically with Tesla's shit-ass engineering and quality control. The discussion was about the most hilarious way for Ol' Donny Trump to wriggle his way into self-immolation, not whether EVs are statistically safer than ICE vehicles. But go off, I guess.

  • FunkYankkkees [they/them, pup/pup's]
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    1 month ago

    pinnacle of American Engineering

    USAmerican made products have a reputation for falling apart if you breathe on them aggressively

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      Yea to get something for the same quality as something manufactured anywhere else it's going to cost 10x as much and weigh 5x as much

  • Mokey2 [none/use name]
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    1 month ago

    What about a team of monkeys on tricycles pulling a bulletproof hamster ball??? Thatd be cool too

  • Bureaucrat
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    1 month ago

    You: It is the pinnacle of american engineering (approving)

    Me: It is the pinnacle of american engineering (disgusted)

  • merthyr1831@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    imagine how quickly Tesla could crumble if this happened and Trump was finally shown how fucking awful the average Elon snakeoil project is. Donald's vendettas against companies that wrong him is usually pretty hilarious