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Outright racism against Muslims is becoming normalised among Liberals. And their entire argument is that "Trump will genocide Palestinians harder".
I'm literally just raging reading this shit.
Watch out Muslims! When we were in power, we gave Israel infinity dollars. Trump won, so he's gonna give them infinity + 1 dollars. How'd you like that!
Them doing literally whatever the fuck they want with zero consequences will be so much different when trumps president.
Also, we saw bidens repsonse to the Palestine protests and it was uhhhh..... not great.
What, you mean calling people with a soul that were literally stating what the admin was doing 'Russian agents of disinformation' wasn't smart?
Sounds like something a Putinbot might say
The "carrot" approach clearly isn't working. Im sorry to say but some people genuinely need "the stick". They need to be shamed and reminded of their inaction when it came to not voting Harris.
Carrot approach? When? Where? What carrots?
The last time the Democrats did the carrot approach was Obama 2008. And he won by an absolute landslide. Every other time was "You don't want the current Republican to do these bad things, do you?"
I've been begging for half a carrot. Even just lie and tell me there's a carrot. That's my bare minimum.
they don't even respect us enough to lie, it would risk scaring the donors
imo these people are just so privileged and entitled that they think giving potential voters nothing but being slightly less outwardly fascist is "the carrot"
it makes no sense to me how regardless of the outcome they think they can blame anyone but the democratic party. coke isn't entitled that i buy their product over pepsi and neither of them are entitled that i buy their product. why would it be any different for voting, especially in a country where as many have pointed out, your vote boils down to consumer validation rather than actually exercising some supposed democratic right?
What, is promising to bury more Palestinian mothers in rubble not a good enough incentive for you?
reddit libs have absolutely jumped the shark.
yesterday, the top post on /r/pics was a bunch of random photos with the title Top general and 500 N. Korean soldiers killed by British Storm Shadow missiles Nov. 20 inside Russia. Cringe-worthy propaganda is all over every major subreddit and getting updooted to the top. half of it must be bots or astroturfing, but that means there's still tens of thousands of people doubling and tripling down on truly silly pro-US empire propaganda.
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yeah... I've noticed the same recently. Updoored propaganda, which is why I avoid Reddit even more now.
Is this an open admission that they lost the election because they failed to cater to those concerned about the Palestinian issue.... something they denied was an issue leading up to the election?
They're literally just blaming voters lol. Some guy in the comments was like "Biden is 80% genocide while Trump is 100% genocide. Palestinians FAFO".
Every time I see your pfp I think it's Saul Goodman in Disco Elysium art style
I don't understand what it means to "blame voters". That's just how democracy works. If you don't inspire people to vote for you then you don't get the votes.
Democrats don't value democracy so much as they value being in control. The only way to maintain their sense of unassailable moral superiority is to remain the political status quo.
Without that, they have to confront the fact that people have increasingly little use, respect, or patience for their two-faced, fair-weather-friend political beliefs.
it's voting in the wrong lizard logic. people didn't show up to vote against the wrong lizard, so the people who voted for the right lizard assign them blame, since not having lizards isn't thought of as a realistic option.
Liberals don't seem to understand that scolding is not effective. They're arguing with maybe 100,000 leftists and Muslims on twitter and r*ddit while they lost seven million votes since 2020. That's a hell of a lot of people that are not the ones they're scolding online. The idea of "appealing to voters" is alien to them. People will vote for you if they like your positions
“DID NOT VOTE” still won the popular vote like he does every four years but they’re never going to engage with “those people” (people who work at Kroger)
The ruling ideology and its two mythologies are so abstract and removed from material reality, they would sooner bring nonbelievers into the ballot box via catechism than slogans.
you expect liberals to take a position? even when they're taking a position they deny it's their position. liberals are spineless brainless racist trash. at least actual conservatives will tell you all the fucked up shit they think. liberals will walk right up to that line and then when you ask them if that's what they're saying they feign offense and act like you're the bad person and you deserve to be scolded.
What's really sad is there is a long history of ignoring nearly 100 million non-voters (2020, 2016, more if you're depressed) that could be mobilized with actual ground game. But it's no doorknocking only donations :only-throw:
Like Bernie was making inroads into the “red wall” states in the middle of the us. There are many places where the right call can stir up many people.
The people are looking to answers now, it is our call to give them ones.
I know this is a popular refrain in left circles, but it's not entirely true. The Dems DO try to reach non-voters, or at least some of the many 501c4 orgs do this kind of outreach...
Problem is you need something that people actually want to get them to give a darn. Who knew 🤷♂️
Elaborating without doxxing myself too much: I know for a fact that each battleground state had programs to reach every college student on every major campus in these states. Several million $ went into canvassing efforts per state to get college students out to vote. Whether it actually worked...
I'm not saying there was zero doorknocking, but the fact they only focus on "Battleground" states means they ignored everything besides the Presidential race, including and especially state and local elections. Trump's ground game was better for the simple fact that he went and did rallies beyond the battlegrounds, which helped immensely with their whole election ticket. Trump held his 2020 election numbers, and Democrats lost votes compared to 2020 despite historical advantages for incumbent administrations.
When I say The Democrats Ignore The Non-Voter I am pointing out that there are tens of millions that could be mobilized. It's so overwhelming that it could flip Red States. Part of it comes from how the DNC top brass take for granted the non-battleground blue states in the same way they take for granted minority votes. It also why they try so hard for the Right, because (in their mind) that is the only vote that can flip. Fundamentally Democrats' strategy for non-voters is disorganized, fragmented, and bereft of supported policies they can woo voters.
Several million $ went into canvassing efforts per state to get college students out to vote. Whether it actually worked...
I say this with all respect for people pounding pavement, but canvassing for college votes for the administration that cracked down on college protestors over Palestine is exactly the tone-deaf "strategy" of the DNC. It's hard to argue that Palestine wasn't just front and center, but that it also revealed many other ugly truths about Democrats.
The end result is a party that is divorced from reality, and they reaped all what they (didn't) sow. At this rate the Democrats have no chance in the 2026 midterms, nor the 2028 Presidency. I point all of this out because I do think leftists have an opportunity to exploit on these critiques and organize into an alternatives on the local level. From a constellation of local organizing we can affiliate into stronger coalitions for state and national power.
"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you.
When our turn comes, we will not make excuses for the terror"
Outright racism against Muslims is becoming normalised among Liberals.
outright racism against muslims has been normalized among liberals for literally decades. none of this is new
Death to America
Liberals have spent the last 8 years pretending to be friends with Muslims but Muslims ain't buying it no more.
Some liberals in online spaces have pretended that they are cool with Muslims (the "good ones" at least). Now these same ones dropped the mask. I don't think offline libs care so much.
It's absurd anyway, Biden was already on track towards total extermination of Gaza. Being worse than even Biden would require a level of effort that Trump would never give.
The real limitations are imposed by the rest of the world, not the US.
To hear liberals talk about it, you'd think the US was some poor, minuscule country being bullied into giving aid to mighty Israel against it's will, instead of the cold reality of the situation.
"You acknowledged the reality but refuse to vote for the lesser evil" correct, I don't vote for fucking babykillers.
Democrats are going to take away from this whole election that clearly being 99% Hitler just wasn’t good enough. Now they have to out-Hitler Hitler.
Inb4 “nuh-uh, the GOP are the real wokes.”
I've said this before, but the catastrophic blunder the liberals are making here is not concentrating simply on Muslims but going after all minorities simultaneously
The way some of these filthy scum talk, you'd think the supermajority of POC's actively voted for Trump and by not focusing solely on one minority group they're instead targeting Black people, Hispanics, and even Native Americans along with muslims
The left hand does not know what the right hand is doing, some liberals are more anti-black then they're anti-Hispanic so they want to blame the loss on black men, others are more Islamophobic, another faction is really peeved by the so-called "Hispanic betrayal" despite the fact Harris promised to implement Trump's immigration policy and Biden deported more people than Trump did in his first term
All of this is like acid on the funding and support structure of the democratic coalition and people are starting to notice every day it continues, liberals still haven't figured out that the kayfabe of social inclusive and anti-racism is what sustains their party, and now they're actively trying to tear their foundation apart because blaming elites is simply not comprehensible to them
Millions of POC's will never again vote dem because of this hate campaign and by the time (around the midterms) dem pundits panic and start posting articles about the dangers of alienating their base it'll be too late
Harris broke records in crowdfunding and most of their rich backers swung towards Trump and so did big tech because of Trump tariff policy, and cause just mentioning the word Palestine is enough for Zionist backers to go elsewhere. So to support the working class base they had, they tried to swing towards the right and beg the rich backers to come home to them.
They also blamed Asian men, despite the fact that again, Asian American Men were second to African American men in percentage voted for Harris, and Asian American women were the only demographic amongst women that voted more for Trump then Harris aside from white people. Oh yeah, they also blamed LGBTQ people and are dropping them from their platform, even though LGBTQ people as a whole voted more for the Dems than any other demographic aside from Black women. They're so ignorant of the numbers and refuse to punch up to blame white people but, more specifically, the base of the elites who make up the Dems who clearly failed in their strategy; whatever, I hope the Dems go the way of the Whigs, but unfortunately that won't happen.
They still had a 1.5 BILLION $ war chest and that's not counting all of the Dem-aligned orgs that also campaigned for Killer Kkkamala. They can't complain about a lack of funds when they outspent Trump by this much.
even Native Americans
If you crunch the numbers, it's basically
Voted for Trump: 0.67%
Voted for Harris: 0.33%
Voted for neither: 99%A liberal will scream incoherently for hours if you showed them this
86% of muslims voted for Biden. That ended up with full support for genocide and sending some of the largest Zionists of the party out to areas with large muslim populations lecturing them about how Palestinians deserve to die during the election campaign. At least they didn't send Fetterman I guess.
The efficacy of voting blue in order to get your agenda through is pretty obviously bullshit.
Dems are doing a better job of radicalizing people than we could ourselves
Think of how many people saw this circus play out, realized they could meaningfully do nothing within the confines of the system, and were lectured like they were petulant toddlers after
I know Obama was a major radicalization moment for myself. I've always been skeptical of democrats/liberals, but I thought maaaaybe a black president would empathize with minorities and non-Americans.
This notion was quickly dispelled and I'm more militant because of it.
is this them selling us the rope I'm always hearing about?
Leopards ate my face? I didn't vote for the leopards that eat faces party. I was weary of their face eating policy. This sounds a bit more like "first they came for the Palestinians and I did not speak out because I am not Palestinian. Then they came for the communists and I did not speak out because I am not a communist."
libs be like:
those pro-Palestinians I'm not speaking out for commited the biggest self-own in history by me not speaking out for them
They literally dropped all the charges against the so called "threat to democracy".
Really shows you who they are... Willing to throw marginalized people under the bus as soon as its convenient and willing to let someone they labeled as "hitler" do whatever they want for the sake of "preserving the stability of our institutions".
