Source https://x.com/ProtoMadd/status/1864957032500986068
It is incredible how a lot of these liberal ghouls pick this and only this moment to pipe up against violence. They've spent the last year running interference for or ignoring genocide, but this is where the line is crossed.
Guess this time it was someone they can relate to.
they're all temporarily embarrassed chief executive officers
Funniest part is they're wrong both ways.
Regardless of who won the election, Gaza was going to keep getting razed.
This ghoul getting perforated made some health insurance companies backtrack on just how overtly evil they were, which can actually save lives.
Venerating a civil peace (that is literally killing people) over an uncivil act (that will result in fewer dying) is logic I'd expect out of a child.
That contrapoints picture is literally 100% more applicable to libs than anything else
It’s honestly difficult to comprehend that she meant that about someone else. That is the group that quote applies to.
Why the hell are so many people so determined for this not to mean anything? Fear of the pain that hope brings?
It is a little strange to me... like I'm as doomer as the next guy, but that's only because good things don't happen. But now that a good thing has happened? My mood has gone WAY up, I've been lightly celebrating since it went down.
It reminds me of how whenever anyone brings up the concept of a general strike, a whole bunch of people who you would think would be all for it do everything they can to decry the notion from the instant someone mentions it.
Fuck, I'm dealing with that right now with a friend of mine, its frustating as hell. Guy is well-read, considers himself a Marxist, but I've never heard him actually support anything; all he does is critique. Every revolution has failed, this or that state isn't really socialist, there's no way to take advantage of this massive upswell in revolutionary sympathy and agitating around it has no strategic value. Nothing can be done because theres no left in America, but also whatever immediate ideas you suggest to start building one are wrong. I used to hold a lot of respect for his opinions, but am starting to think that in practice his politics boil down to a rationalization for pessimism and inaction. He's got that western leftist no catch only throw thing going on. Every movement that has had to contend with the friction of existing in reality is unnaceptably tainted, only once we have read literally all the theory in existence can we begin to do any praxis at all as the world burns around us. Dude says he's looking for the right strategy, as if those are just something you find in the woods fully formed instead of having to chisel out in real time.
Yeah, I ran out of patience for that kind of mindset a while ago. Theory is great, we should all seek to enrich ourselves through reading obviously. But at this point I'm so fucking tired of just learning and talking about things. I'm not going to
personally, but when it happens? I definitely welcome, encourage, and support it in whatever way I can. Mainly by using the opportunity to agitate and educate in spaces (i.e. 
) that are opened up by someone else doing something cool and good.I had a friend like this, he was actually the one who influenced me to start reading into Marxism. Then he started calling himself a Lacanian and now he's a pro-EU, pro-NATO misogynistic asshole
sounds like a Trotskyist lol. Yeah there is merit in the idea that while the murder of that ceo isnt the start of an anti-imperialist soviet america in the next years, it does indicate that the material conditions of americans have removedd to an more appropriate level for communist agitation.
i genuinely find it very hard to believe that some random asshole ive never heard about getting shot could possibly mean anything. if anything it just reminds me how many more random assholes are running around out there ruling the world without a soul or heart in their body
Some random asshole getting shot ended up being the thing that triggered WW1
They are afraid- If people stop believing in the sanctity of non-violence in the face of oppression, well that means that the subconscious labour aristocrat might lose their treats.
PSA: you're not a "moralist" annoying or otherwise for coming out in defense of a CEO whose entire networth is propped up by dead bodies. you're a fucking moron who fell for propaganda about what's "right and wrong". i hate this self-fellating bullshit. "i guess i'm just too moral, too good of a person, too emotionally intelligent. others don't like it". no you're a clown who has never asked a question in your life.
Strangely these moralists are nowhere to be found when innumerable masses are sentenced to die on the streets by an AI whose only goal is to increase profits. I guess that's just not icky enough to make them feel something. Just a state of nature, the cost of doing business.
That is what a moralist is, to be fair, although maybe that's not what their intended meaning was
what's your definition of a moralist comrade? mine is somebody who believes in morality above all else, even if it means they get the short end of the stick.
doming some health insurance CEO is the moral choice to make, even if most people are opposed to killing.
IE, defending the health insurance CEO becuase he was "murdered" doesn't make you a moralist, it makes you someone who doesn't know what morality is because, like i said in my first post, they've never asked a question in their life. moreover, 99% of these people defending the CEO in the face of public celebration are just trying to play devil's advocate. they don't actually give a shit. they haven't thought about any of this. they're just reacting and they know "murder bad"
It's a moralist in the colloquial, pejorative sense
KINGDOM OF CONSCIENCE
Moralists don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.
He's no longer in the world, therefore it's a better place. It's not rocket science, is it?
It might not be transformatively better but that's because there are thousands of other pricks just like him left.
These people would criticize a runner’s single step as being no use in a marathon
Discounting the first drop of water past your lips as worthless for failing to quench your thirst
Even the libs on r/politics get it. They might not be celebrating The Adjuster, but they understand why the CEO got rinsed. WTF is wrong with you
Brian Thompson's death did make the world a better place though.
All of sudden BCBS reverses their anesthesia surgery policy which will probably save of a bunch of people's lives as doctors don't rush through surgery and probably save red head's lives in particular due to their increased anesthesia requirement. Plus you have all these people on social media in mass suddenly saying they got their appeals approved after years of fighting.
One health insurance CEO gets flatlined and a bunch of changes happen that benefit everyone with shitty health insurance.
It would be terrible if that number were any higher because I am a liberal who abhors violence!!
"If we hope for his death, we're no better than him. If we hope for his death, he wins."
"Yeah, except—we ARE better than him and he DOESN'T win. He doesn't anything. He's dead. That's the point."
If we hope for his death we lose because he still alive. We have to either celebrate his death or help bring it about to win.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Contrapoints statement does seem to be fitting more to the wishywashy Breadtubers and libs crowds than actual socialists, ironically. By power/victory she also probably means becoming "like the democrats".
This very same twitter account posted this a few months before the election:
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Damn I got excited about what may have happened to a literal Walmart
If I recall, this was posted after the looting of the Lake St. Target in Minneapolis across from the 3rd precinct
Not really, it just boils down to "Ha ha, you understand the futility of electoralism in the hell-empire but fear the brutal violence of it's enforcers too much to take stronger action.
" It's the smug sniveling of the teacher's pet justifying their spinelessness to themselves by ratting on you, and I absolutely do not have to hand it to them."Ha ha, you understand the futility of electoralism in the hell-empire but fear the brutal violence of it's enforcers too much to take stronger action."
Yep. Describes me to a T.
If I was going to refute this, I'd say people are firebombing more and more walmarts every day. We firebombed a police precinct after all
Considering the Republicans won the last election, I'm not so sure
"People on twitter will really be like "you believe in firebombing a Walmart? that pales in effectiveness to my strategy, winning elections" and then not win an election"
So Basils main critique is that there aren't enough Walmart fire bombings. ?
But they are only willing to join that side once someone else initiates the Walmart fire bombings.
I am not personally sure if that is the main problem with firebombing walmarts, if in fact anyone is presenting it as a superior tactic to voting. Walmarts are often full of people, even at night when they bring in very marginalized workers to tidy and stock.
But apparently Basil would be fine with it if only it werent idle fantasizing.
people will firebomb places that are symbols of their daily oppressions - like the banks or the police station or the chruch, not grocery stores.
